Other than the piece of status report that sent to our house, where else(through internet) we can check whether we obt in or not obt into OBU degree?

You can login to myACCA to check.

Ha Ha, nothing wrong if I really don't like Sunway. Just u as a Sunway student want to promote Sunway and go to do this arguement until now.

And from my 1st post argue with you, I never talk Sunway bad thing (please don't mixed this debate with previous post), I just tell you the real thing in other college and show you some example for KL lecturer. I show you more than 5 examples for other college lecturer.

It is your try to promote Sunway. Promote Sunway still ok, but why u keep on to say "other college lecturer spotting question rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about", but you fail to provide evidend. And finally go to change game rule play "WORDING".

Even in my previous arguement, I also agree Sunway got it own advantage like College life, big library and etc. I also agree with them Sunway provide good study environment for student. But how about u? Never attend other college lecturer and don't have any evidend, but KEEP ON TO SAY "other college lecturer spotting question rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about".

No point to argue with Sunway supporter like you anymore. But just need to tell u every college also got pro & con, but your opinion for "other college lecturer spotting question rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about" was TOTALLY WRONG.

LOL, you guys can spent days arguing over which college is better.

Well, for those who want to take up the course, just have to read on what we have to say on the colleges based on our experience

So let me say what I want to say

Sunway college is good, they provide you good and experienced lecturers (ok, fine, might not be as experience as SOME of the KL colleges lecturer), most importantly lecturers who can deliver the knowledge to the students

Your college life, studying ACCA won't be boring, you get to mix around with other students, there are activities, clubs, societies.

Sunway has also retained its platinum status, a prove that the students performance during the exam is above the rest as a whole.

Some of you might argue that Sunway ban students who failed the progress test and mock exam from sitting in the real exam, that is why those bad apples are filtered out and only good ones are sent to the battle field to retain Sunway platinum status.

But think of it this way, if you have been failing the PT and Mock, what are the chances of you passing the exam, you would be walking in the exam without knowing everything about the paper, would Sunway want to produce such ACCA grads?

Apart from that, the PT and mock serves as a benchmark, the students are extremely competitive in the college, so the fear of being barred from the real exam coupled with peer pressure actually induces the student to study consistently since the PT are held every few weeks.

I really hope no one say that I am being paid by Mr Teo, that would be as if you are saying Sunway do not deserved to be praised and any attempt is probably because I am being paid

This post has been edited by karhoe: Mar 30 2009, 08:25 PM

i would like enquire about the ptptn loan for sunway college.Does sunway college for ACCA courses are applicable for ptptn loan or if there is other loan that can be apply??
i need a reply soon as i m havin financial difficulties~!!thank you!

I heard before, that ACCA and CAT is not being offered PTPTN because it is difficult and involves alot of administrative job when students resit, students taking different paper combinations, etc.

But someone told me its being offered, though I have not seen it in newspaper anywhere yet.

Did you just finish SPM? What's your SPM result, there's entrance scholarhsip

I had log in. But I didn't see under which option that allow me to choose whether to obt into.

I'm planning to take accountancy and finance for my degree. And I'm still having some doubts in me.

A few questions to ask.

How come some university offer only accountancy while some university offer accountancy and finance? Why is this so? What's the differences?

I'm going to do my foundation in arts in UTAR which is more to accountancy. But since I'm planning to do accountancy and finance for my degree. Would it be tough for me when I'm doing my degree as the syllabus for my foundation in arts merely touch the topic regarding finance. So how? Btw, I'm only doing my foundation in UTAR and will not continue for my degree there.

Besides, I'm planning to complete my accountancy degree in Australia and get a CPA. When I come back to Malaysia, can I get the ACCA? Can I have both at the same time?

Hope you guys could help. Thanks. =)

This post has been edited by stevenchang: Mar 30 2009, 10:08 PM

I'm not agree with this statement. Do you know how part time student study ACCA? Part time student every week work 5 to 5 1/2 days and during peak period they don't have time to study, how to attend and pass the mock exam? But why they still can pass the ACCA exam even they study last minutes.

I got one friend study part time P2 in Sunway last sitting, she was not happy with arrangement for too many class and mock exam in Sunway as she was part time student. Finally she fail mock exam and Sunway want to ban her from take exam. She was very angry for this arrangement, how come paid so much money, but college still want to ban her take exam. Finally, she register as private student to take P2 and pass the exam.

I got a lot of friend (including me) study all paper part time and full time in KL, don't have much chance to attend mock exam. Even attend mock exam, but also fail in low marks. But in real exam, they still can pass. I got one friend from TARC, she is just attend P2 & P3 revision class in KL college and just use 2 weeks to study, but finally she can pass this 2 paper.

From my opinion, Mock exam is good for student. Attend mock exam can help student know the mistake, but if you fail doesn't mean you will fail in real ACCA exam.

For the platinum status, I don't think this is very important for ACCA student. If you are good student, you go to anywhere also can study. Just like you drink coke in 5 star restaurant, that is no difference for the taste if you buy coke in 7-11.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 30 2009, 10:21 PM

Since you planning to get CPA, why still want to waste money to get ACCA? If you really want further, go for MBA, CFA ane etc lo!

hmm, there are lecturers listed here that have taught in Sunway before or other colleges before. Even as at this point in time, some may be teaching in a few colleges concurrently. It wouldn't be too objective to use this as a definite comparison now would it?

Not to compare la, just show him some eg to prove "other college lecturer spotting question rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about" is not correct.

The 2 in 1 degree serves like dual package since substantial area in both field are related to each other so they can relate. It gives slight edge compared to normal degrees due to versatility. The reasoning behind it may also due to professional qualification like acca is also like a/c + finance
& a/c + biz = cima or sort. Some uni like SEGI claims that their a/c + finance degree are the only degree in MYS that gives maximum exemption to ICAEW. True or not I may not know.

Finance is not available to student at lower level as it was considered an advance programme so you will never find diploma in finance anywhere.
The transition you mentioned will be difficult & its also the reason I rejected the oppurnity to do such degree especially twinning programmes to Uk or australia.

When you have your CPA it doesn't make sense to have acca since both are quite similar just different version like penang curry & johor curry.
One more thing if you do pusue CPA, the students there will tell you ACCA is for losers & if you enter ACCA it will be the other way around. Having either of them is quite enough.

not to push fire here, but i think wat he say are base on what was told by one of the KL lecturer, i think i know who,i was in the class when the lecturer mentioned something like 'spotting' and many other issue related to kl colleges, and of course i will not disclose who is the lecturer who mentioned those sensitive issue

What transition u mean? Can explain more on it.

Anyway, thanks a lot for your info. Appreciate them very much. Thanks.

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Added on March 30, 2009, 11:51 pmalright. thanks for ur comment! =)

This post has been edited by stevenchang: Mar 30 2009, 11:51 PM

"Ha Ha, nothing wrong if I really don't like Sunway. Just u as a Sunway student want to promote Sunway and go to do this arguement until now."

U have ur hatred to sunway i never care. and well even if i promote sunway, i dont think it's wrong too. i just say in my opinion, it is good. if other people want to believe then believe. if they dont and want to know more, ask more ppl. opinion = judgemental. at least, i get good results under sunway. some more, in almost every post of mine, i say KL colleges are not bad and i say i dont intend to compare.


"And from my 1st post argue with you, I never talk Sunway bad thing (please don't mixed this debate with previous post), I just tell you the real thing in other college and show you some example for KL lecturer. I show you more than 5 examples for other college lecturer. "

Thanks for ur efforts but do i care at the first place? i didnt compare sunway and KL so why u tell me


"It is your try to promote Sunway. Promote Sunway still ok, but why u keep on to say "other college lecturer spotting question rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about", but you fail to provide evidend. And finally go to change game rule play "WORDING"."

I dont think i need to provide evidence. it is my opinion and so what u care if u disagree. just say u disagree. DIGI uses the slogan "The Smartest Choice Always". does this mean those ppl using maxis are stupid ppl? come on. different ppl different views


"Even in my previous arguement, I also agree Sunway got it own advantage like College life, big library and etc. I also agree with them Sunway provide good study environment for student. But how about u? Never attend other college lecturer and don't have any evidend, but KEEP ON TO SAY "other college lecturer spotting question rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about"."

Haha. funny. did u mention about advantages of Sunway in any post of urs? I cant find any. second, even if i say other college lecturer spots, what are ur concerns? that is my opinion and what i heard. i already emphasise that i m not referring to those KL colleges and there should be no worry on ur part that readers will be misguided.



"No point to argue with Sunway supporter like you anymore. But just need to tell u every college also got pro & con, but your opinion for "other college lecturer spotting question rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about" was TOTALLY WRONG."

I m not a supporter of Sunway. I speak with my results. I agree every college has pro and con. what i find is sunway covers the syllabus well for students but i do agree few papers are not so good covered. well, if u count the good colleges altogether is about 5 or less (as long as it is not much more than that), then u can take the word "MOST" as referring to other colleges. why are u so panic and sensitive? is there a need? it simply shows that u cant stand ppl praising sunway college. dont be a hater.

Lastly, I, hereby, exclude KL colleges and other good colleges from my first statement. With my declaration, pls be satisfied.

No evidend, never study under other college, but now try to use own opinion to talk bad thing about other college. This is Sunway student.

You said the previous one is your last post? Why still want to post war now? In non evidend statement, it is show you try to talk bad thing about other college and promote Sunway. May be Mr Teo pay u ask u to do. How much Mr Teo pay u? I'm not surprise cos Mr Teo already done some unethical during CKF P6 class in Sunway.

I agree with some Sunway advantage b4, please check my previous post. And from my 1st post argue with u, I just talk about other college thing, never talk about Sunway bad thing. How about u? Promote Sunway, keep on talk bad thing for other college.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 31 2009, 01:13 AM

The question was he don't know a lot of thing and try to talk bad thing about other college. Now still keep on to argue he is correct. He is really want to fire here.

hey guys. i want to ask. i havent memorize anything F4 syllabus/content.
if you were me, would you sit for this coming F4 exam with only 60 days remaining? or sit only 2 papers instead of 3

I agree with your statement here & i like the coke analogy.
I think every individual deserves the right to exam & any sort of ban is nothing short of infringement of human rights.
I also like another post above mentioning something about battlefield. I perceive acca as something in opposite actually which i will not mention here.
The funny thing about mock is that I always tend to achieve better in simulation compared to than actual one. How ironic it seems.
Perhaps failure in mock can drive that particular student to even greater hight (a sort of motivation speech I read somewhere).

Finally I can conclude my findings about "Lecturers" after few months of research which I dare not reveal earlier due to lack of data. Ok here we go.
The issue of experience , capability, qualification, popularity, pass rates, race, fees structure, location will have to take backseat to the ultimate factor, synergy.

Ok I will use 4 lecturers for 2 different papers tested with 4 different students to illustrate :
First theory paper so I use P3 : Parmindar & Michael Mainwaring
Both lecturer are have proven track record with heavy pedigree as well. However both of them have a very distinctive way of lecturing.
After hanging out with several friends (for P3 its mostly girls) I have encountered some of them cannot adapt to parmindar style of giving several model as an answer to a question. The linkage use between model also confuse them as well. Boys (em hem) whom majority have good memory power doesn't find these a problem so they are comfortable with it but majority of the girls find it rather cumbersome.

Some of them tried out michael mainwaring for revision & find out he is completely different as he teach 1 model for 1 answer instead of parmidar way of giving as many examples as possible. One of them also point out m.m use a more direct & simple approach which suited them more. So after few more narration it erupt into lecturer war which I am stuck in the middle. Support the girls the boys branded me a traitor, supporting the boys the girls branded me as "ungentleman" whtever that means so i left after reconcile.

Next on calculational paper so I use P2 : Haneef & Yap Kok Wah.
Both are very experienced lecturer but have different focus & style. Haneef is more interested in the theoretical part & lecture based on Int stream.
Yap is more interested in calculational part & lecture based on MYS stream. In the past i will quickly recommend the former lecturer but after some few discussion with another group of friends I have also arrived at the synergy conclusion.

These time I start from 2 different girl. One who fail under Haneef but passed under yap while the other one is the opposite.
The first girl have studied under haneef for quite some time but still fail with reasons unknown to her (she is quite hardworking too). Then she just decided to follow another lecturer & decided to join her close friend who attend yap class. After that she passed the exam. It seems that although Yap is not perfect but the methods suit her more than the previous lecturer.
Another girl whom is also smart & harworking also failed but under yap she finds the method quite inadequate for exam purpose. So she decided to follow haneef & finally pass the exam with flying colours as well since she finds haneef method fills the gaps of her previous lecturer methods.

Ultimately the choice of lecturer lies on the student itself. There will be never one universal lecturer whom suits all expectations & needs.
If you want the best recommendation try out the lecturer yourself and make your own review. Thats thousand times better indicator compared to experienced lecturer or world class university.

This post has been edited by Topace111: Mar 31 2009, 01:25 AM