haha,i also eat alot during exam...but the stress beat the food...i remember that time when i took 4 papers,my weight is only 38kg to 39kg...my highest record..

Sunway works this way. The lecturers will make sure u understand the syllabus and they will ask u what parts to focus. This is good for those who like to know/learn. IF u view stuying for ACCA as something u would like to learn, u will have less difficulties in it. Whereas, the other colleges (in my opinion, SOME but not all) will go for spotting the questions rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about. THIS WILL MEAN U WOULD NEED MORE TIME STUDYING IN SUNWAY BECAUSE U ARE TAUGHT AND GUIDED CLOSER (which is good if u are not able to manage ur time well) WHEREAS IN THESE OTHER COLLEGES, U CAN DECIDE ON UR OWN TIME TO STUDY THE SYLLABUS THOROUGHLY BUT CARE MUST BE GIVEN THAT ONE CAN MANAGE HIS/HER TIME WELL.The passing chance is BETTER FOR A PREPARED STUDENT AS COMPARED TO A LAST-MINUTE STUDENT.

ACCA is a tough examination because it is the shortest course to a professional qualification (3 years to know everything to learn to be a qualified accountant). So, in my opinion, it is the time constraint itself that makes it tough.

But there is one thing true about Sunway. That is there are quite a number of good students in Sunway. This may make the others feel stressed. But I would say just ignore others and learn at ur pace. Everyone can pass if they put in their efforts (Disclaimer: it would be harder if u have a problem with language. part 3 would require very much efforts)

This post has been edited by CK90: Mar 29 2009, 02:08 AM

Who tell you other college spotting question rather than making student understand syllabus?

Do you know that 1st day when I attend Philip Woo (KSA), he already explain to us the whole syllabus for P1?

Do you know that 1st day I attend Choong Kwai Fatt 3.2 in SEGI, he use 2 hours to explain the syllabus for 3.2?

Do you know that 1st day I attend Andrew Pang P5 in KSA, he already told us the P5 syllabus?

Do you know that 1st day I attend Parmindar P3 in KSA, he already told us which topic will be test in Sec A and other topic will be test in Sec B?

I can tell u that KL lecturer will be more concentrate in important area, just like you go to SPM tuition during your Form 5, but not more on spotter area. Of course they will spot but only during end of class for that semester and revision class.

Regarding higher passing rate in Sunway, I don't want to talk too much, but you can refer back to previous post to check the reason.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 29 2009, 12:57 AM

I think you are speaking from ignorance as your statement clearly implied that you never step foot outside of sunway and its quite ill-advised to talk something without supported by facts or research.

The term "spot" is hardly relevant since most lecturer in advance level rarely spot & teach everything to student & let the students to decide on their own course of study. The spotting may be relevant in revision session but i don't think you mentioned that in your statement.
Kl lecturers definitely lacks the time & resources compared to full time sunway lecturers so they focus on key principles & core data. Student will have to find their own mode of study since :
1) No homework is given.
2) very few questionnaires
This may teach student to become self independent & reduce reliance on lecturer (although many may not). What you mentioned above in sunway teaching methods is also unofficialy known as "spoon-feeding" and lectures in these level should not be so in the first place as students have to strice on their own.

I recommend you to try these 2 lecturer : haneef & parmindar & decide whether they teach or spot. You may be surprised like you have never been before. At least thats what most sunway students that take at Kl centres told me.

Please refer to what my wordings are. I mentioned most but NOT ALL and I didnt mention KL colleges are bad. One more point that I raised is that a more prepared student (as in understanding) will be better than an unprepared student. I didnt even intend to mention Sunway passing rate is high. Are you being too sensitive?
And what I'm referring to is mainly on part 2 of ACCA. In part 3, there are no alternatives but to focus on important topics.
Thanks for ur comment.

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Added on March 29, 2009, 2:00 amI agree with the difference in teaching method. But first, let me make this clear. I do not intend to compare any colleges or lecturers. My statement "The lecturers will make sure u understand the syllabus and they will ask u what parts to focus.Whereas, the other colleges (in my opinion, most but not all) will go for spotting the questions rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about." intends to convey my meaning as to why u might experience stress in Sunway college (as brought up by geo) as u will need to allocate more time to studies in Sunway whereas in other colleges, u are more free to decide on ur own time to study. Maybe I'll shall clarify this in the post. Thanks for ur comment.

This post has been edited by CK90: Mar 29 2009, 02:11 AM

does anyone use gtg books b4?especially on p1 paper and f8 ?

Who tell you MOST of OTHER COLLEGE LECTURER GO FOR SPOTTING THE QUESTION for Part 2?

F4 - Vikness (Kolej Bandar)
F5 - Andrew/Tee Chai Hong (KSA)
F6 - Alan Yeo (KSA), Siva Nair (FTMS)
F7 - Haneef (Mc Orange), Keith Farmer (KSA)
F8 - Philip Woo (KSA), Sheila (Mc Orange), Low Chin Ann(Kolej Bandar)
F9 - Daniel Ho (FTMS), Andrew Pang (KSA)

Do you know that all these famous lecturers also cover whole syllabus, but at the same time focus on the important area?

Do you know that study under Joe Fang (KSA) for F7, you will learn a special technique to answer in calculation part question?

Do you know that Keith Farmer (KSA) is only the lecturer can cover balance in both Consol and FRS (F7 & P2 also)? Keith Farmer cover very detail in FRS and have own technique for Consol part.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 29 2009, 01:31 PM

Hahaha, anyway let's not go into that debate again alright? Just let him have his opinion. Don't you know ppl who have opinions rarely change them, hahaha. Just let him say what he wants lah.

hahaha , the debate goes on ? lulz

No more debate la, I don't want Post War come again. That's all, Ha Ha!

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 29 2009, 02:14 PM

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Hi there.. I want to know, does the above mean I have to pay 66 sterling plus exam fees to sit this June sitting?

First, these are famous lecturers. As u can see, not all of them are not from the same college. So can u compare the WHOLE KL with ONE Sunway college?
Second, I have no intention to compare KL and Sunway. It's u who wanted to and started the debate.
Third, I have changed the word "MOST" even before u reply me since u are so sensitive that I am talking about KL colleges when I did not have that intention.
So, now what else do u care?
Well, Sunway or KL is not my concerns. I am not holding shares in any of them. So, is there no incentive for me to talk good about Sunway and talk bad about KL? pls think..thanks and no more war

The best way to issue FIRST statement is always based on facts not opinion since the former will dictate how the rest of the proceeding goes.
However there are some of the recommended lecturers are notorious spotter as well but only in revision session dealing with mostly with theory papers like F8, P1 & P3. You won't find many lecturers spot in other areas as its quite damaging if wrong & no rewards for correct estimation.

Spotting normally acts as last resort for certain students especially those who have failed before or studying part time which they may lack time to prepare for studies. I think most part time student avoid sunway bcos of this. For stubborn people like me who never trust anyone tips but my own finds these lecturer tips & spots are best left as personal reference rather than key recipe for success.

But i agree this issue is quite trifle to debate to begin with.

This post has been edited by Topace111: Mar 29 2009, 09:19 PM

You want the lecturer from one college:

KSA

F4 - Sanjeetha
F5 - Andrew Pang, Tee Chai Hong
F6 - Alan Yeo
F7 - Keith Farmer
F8 - Philip Woo
F9 - Andrew Pang

Mc Orange

F4 - Mr Ramesh
F5 - Mr Ian Lim
F6 - Ms Wong Paik Wan
F7 - Mr Haneef
F8 - Ms Sheila
F9 - Mr Ian Lim

Some of them not so famous but they still cover the whole syllabus for that paper and not as per you said "Spotting Topic rather than cover syllabus". You keep on to say "Most" already prove you try to compare Sunway and KL college.

Even a lot of lecturer from SEGI/FTMS not so famous but they also cover the whole syllabus for that paper.

Need to tell you also both KSA and Mc Orange got more experience and famous lecturer as compare to Sunway.

And please read back your 1st post, is you go to Compare the Sunway lecturer and KL lecturer. I just tell you the real thing in KL college.

I agree with Topace111, this issue is quite trifle to debate to begin with. So no more arguement, but please don't simply say "other college spotting question rather than making student understand syllabus".

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 29 2009, 11:25 PM

"And please read back your 1st post, is you go to Compare the Sunway lecturer and KL lecturer. I just tell you the real thing in KL college."
excuse me, did i mention KL at anywhere in my first post? thanks and pls be reminded that there are many colleges in 14 states in Malaysia as well as Labuan and Cyberjaya. Malaysia is not made up of KL and Sunway only.
u keep on saying i m referring to ur KL colleges.well,I can't help u on that. all the best with ur hate to Sunway.

From your 1st post, it show that you try to promote Sunway and keep on to hate other college. May be Mr Teo pay you money to ask you to do that. I'm not surpise if he ask you to do that cos earlier he already done some unethical thing during CKF P6 class.

Need to tell you oso, even lecturer in other college (means other state) also cover whole syllabus but not "just spotting question". You can ask ACCA student from other state. Some more, some KL lecturer from FTMS also teach ACCA in other state. So please take back your word "MOST".

You never study in any college beside Sunway, some more don't have any evidend, how can you said "the other colleges will go for spotting the questions rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about". I know Sunway student support a lot for that college, but please don't simply talk "the other colleges will go for spotting the questions rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about".

And I just tell you for KL college real thing, never talk about Sunway bad thing in my arguement with you, please take back your word for "Hate to Sunway" even you are Sunway supporter.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 30 2009, 09:43 AM

Agree. Besides, most probably the HR managers will know your actual english communication skills from your interview. I mean, even if you boast this certificate but during the interview time you still struggle to communicate with the interviewer, that's as good as throwing your certificate down to the drain right?

Anyway I want to ask, do you think Big 4 will hire a person like me as audit associate who :

Pass all my Fundamental papers, except for F8, and I currently have working experience as audit associate in a medium audit firm(6 months only to date)


And there it goes again, Sunway vs Other colleges war. All colleges are good...nuff said, if not, everyone else who study in these so called 'inferior' colleges will fail their ACCA exam and Malaysia won't be overcrowded with ACCA grads.

I know quite a number of people who join the Big 4. At most, they join the firm having completed most of the required papers, being the last 3 or 2 papers in the Professional level. It would even be better if you passed the course and join them.

The issue of experienced hire is something the Big Four would consider deeply. Different firms have different audit methodology as well as consistency. That's the reason why they are more aggressive in hiring fresh graduates and training them up.

Oh by the way you're still young. Why the hurry to come out and work? Juggling studies and work isn't easy.

Not said want to war with him, but he keep on to say "MOST of the other colleges will go for spotting the questions rather than making the students understand what the syllabus is about". He never study any paper in other college and also totally don't know about other college, how can say this thing? He totally go to promote Sunway and talk the bad thing for other college.

Now he already turn this game to play "WORDING". I hope will not argue him anymore.

Btw, for your current situation, I think the chance to enter BIG 4 won't be high. May be you try to pass your F8 and P1-P3 1st, then baru try la.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Mar 30 2009, 01:18 PM

hey.pls refer to my post.i didnt insist on most.i already change it since ur first post.maybe u should look first before u talk?
and many ppl know u hate sunway so i dont think i should change what i have written.
and i think this will be my last post on this topic. i dont hv time to argue with u.it's simply too hard to talk to u.