congrats davidmu. mind take a pic of ur new baby? how does it fit?
also, mind giving me ur old unit?
PROTON SAVVY LYN club V2 - AMT manual added!, -best little car in the market-
PROTON SAVVY LYN club V2 - AMT manual added!, -best little car in the market-
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Oct 2 2008, 07:07 PM
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congrats davidmu. mind take a pic of ur new baby? how does it fit?
also, mind giving me ur old unit? |
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Oct 2 2008, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 2 2008, 07:07 PM) PROJECT ICE not done yet, I just put in my KENWOOD I just take picture of the whole HU out, I will show u the Work In Progress DRAFT 1st ![]() |
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Oct 2 2008, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 2 2008, 12:20 PM) most new cars already have a 'ping sensor' in the engine. meaning if the fuel is of sub standard, then it will retard the timing to suit it. for the timing retarding, it'll also have a minimum threshold as a limit. so some engine especially with high compression have to use at least Ron95 premium fuel....for example, most fuel in indonesia are of ron 88. ron 92 and 95 are the high end fuel. --- davidmu: on warranty of HU.. it is possible not to cut any wires. according to accessory shops, they can use the clip method to connect the wires. but keep in mind, if u short some wires and fries something. dun expect proton to honour warranty on that. -- edwin88: stop surfing on the web for info on savvy. go out and test drive one then surf for info. -- hyper: i fully agree. my family's honda is going to die soon because of CVT issue, honda can't do anything to help. most likely will need to change a recond gearbox soon. Added on October 2, 2008, 10:41 pm QUOTE(raynman @ Oct 2 2008, 12:49 PM) True, but the robotic clutch system is many times more expensive to replace than most of the auto light warning cases are due to wiring faults & not component failure.... FYI Renault is known to have higher electronic failure compared to other brands. Proton did their best to improve the situation and of course....accident still happened. My car is retained at 1st service for 2 week because they detected an impending failure in the AMT system and changed my wirings.the actual clutch kit in the manual gearbox in the event of component failure. This is what every Savvy AMT owner is dreading whenever the AUTO light comes on. Proton's inability to resolve this problem is not helping to allay this fear, especially for those out-of-warranty vehicles. Added on October 2, 2008, 1:44 pmThere is one lady owner from Singapore who posted on savoc.net yesterday regarding the AMT failure of her two-month old Savvy! After ignition, she cannot put the car into drive from the 'N' position. Even with the help of some experienced forummers, she still couldn't manage to engage into drive. I really sympathise with her since she cannot use her car and has to wait to be towed back to the service centre after the Raya holidays. My Savvy AMT is also around two-month+ old and I am feeling really apprehensive about this AMT problem. So unpredictable. It can happen without warning on both new and out-of-warranty vehicles. However, while it's not a very serious problem, my car still suffer from AMT jerk & it's almost certain to be caused by the brake switch & "seasonal" AMT light warning & the error shown is something like "wiring earthed/disconnected".... This post has been edited by navigator: Oct 2 2008, 10:41 PM |
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Oct 2 2008, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(navigator @ Oct 2 2008, 10:35 PM) for the timing retarding, it'll also have a minimum threshold as a limit. so some engine especially with high compression have to use at least Ron95 premium fuel.... We need to define what exactly is a "wiring fault". Wires wrongly connected not according to Renault factory wiring diagram? Loose connectors? Corroded connections? Shorting?Added on October 2, 2008, 10:41 pm most of the auto light warning cases are due to wiring faults & not component failure.... FYI Renault is known to have higher electronic failure compared to other brands. Proton did their best to improve the situation and of course....accident still happened. My car is retained at 1st service for 2 week because they detected an impending failure in the AMT system and changed my wirings. However, while it's not a very serious problem, my car still suffer from AMT jerk & it's almost certain to be caused by the brake switch & "seasonal" AMT light warning & the error shown is something like "wiring earthed/disconnected".... If these are facts, then why do they happen? And in so many AMT vehicles? Shouldn't Proton be doing a recall for this wiring problem similar to the rear wheel bearing problem? Is there any assurance from Proton that after changing the wiring, it won't happen again? There are just too many questions without good answers from Proton that will allay our nagging fear of impending AMT failure. And I have not even experienced the AUTO light on yet. |
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Oct 4 2008, 11:07 AM
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thanks hyper for ur explaination,
it did gave me a relief a bit, but i do still feel "not satisfied" with it. i went to proton car dealer yesterday just to have a closer look at this savvy, and yeah..i really want it.. but just like raynman said...AMT is so unpredictable!! so now im still thinking either to take AMT or MANUAL.. what do you guys suggest? why some of u take manual/amt? (well i want to see an answer different from "with manual i look more macho etc2" hehe) |
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Oct 4 2008, 12:58 PM
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i took the amt version because i believe some preventive measurement can be done to minimise the risk
1. choose ur car - choose date after june 2008 2. flush the amt oil and change it to renault oil 3. change sparkplug to ribbed ones 4. shrinktube the tdc connector 5. put o-ring to the sparkplug connector |
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Oct 4 2008, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 4 2008, 12:58 PM) i took the amt version because i believe some preventive measurement can be done to minimise the risk do u mean u do it all in ur list after u get ur car? btw, i dont quite understand the no4. thing.. 1. choose ur car - choose date after june 2008 2. flush the amt oil and change it to renault oil 3. change sparkplug to ribbed ones 4. shrinktube the tdc connector 5. put o-ring to the sparkplug connector |
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Oct 4 2008, 01:18 PM
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ya. probably will get my car next monday.
will do those first hand. no4 is there is a electrical connector at the tdc sensor. will unplug, put in a heatshrink tube and connect back to keep moisture out. probably will spray wd40 first. |
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Oct 4 2008, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 4 2008, 12:58 PM) i took the amt version because i believe some preventive measurement can be done to minimise the risk Good call,1. choose ur car - choose date after june 2008 2. flush the amt oil and change it to renault oil 3. change sparkplug to ribbed ones 4. shrinktube the tdc connector 5. put o-ring to the sparkplug connector I would have done exactly the same thing as you if I were to get another new Savvy AMT. No matter what year of manufacture. |
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Oct 4 2008, 02:13 PM
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Just add 1 din CDplayer
I cant find the casing for my car, I ask so many Audio shop ady they said cost around RM110 ANY suggest to add what stuff below the player? ![]() |
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Oct 4 2008, 02:20 PM
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another??
Added on October 4, 2008, 2:31 pmshud add a casing that allow storage. for example to put ur thumbdrive and smarttag This post has been edited by lj0000: Oct 4 2008, 02:31 PM |
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Oct 4 2008, 02:32 PM
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Oct 4 2008, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(davidmu @ Oct 4 2008, 02:13 PM) Just add 1 din CDplayer Either u get the compartment box or u can use acrylic board to cover it up. haha or! maybe u have intention to put in SAFC? I cant find the casing for my car, I ask so many Audio shop ady they said cost around RM110 ANY suggest to add what stuff below the player? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 4 2008, 03:09 PM
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i got an idea for savvy sticker. the sticker should be reflective type or the silver type to resemble the savvy logo behind.
HiSavvy (highline savvy) MySavvy (m-line savvy) esavvy (economy savvy?) Added on October 4, 2008, 3:19 pm on casings: i saw them at some accessory shop in subang. similar to these ones http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2779 This post has been edited by lj0000: Oct 4 2008, 03:27 PM |
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Oct 4 2008, 04:32 PM
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esavvy sound much better than those 2..lol
btw Ij000, with all those list u made, can it prevent the "unpredictable failure" of AMT? or maybe reduce it for maybe how many percent? its good tho (ur list).. |
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Oct 4 2008, 04:38 PM
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e-savvy is actually for electric-savvy but in here is economy savvy
well.. i believe there are preventive things that can be done. i wont wait for the 10k service. maybe then already too late. its not that expensive for those stuff. my experience is from my iswara. a dirty sparkplug actually killed my distributor and thus a rm500 repair. at first i wold never believe a dirty sparkplug will do such damage.. |
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Oct 4 2008, 05:06 PM
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maybe you can keep us updated after u done with all those things
hopefully it could prevent the usual problems occur in AMT my KWSP got prob. so my "getting a savvy" process would go slow..so i have time to ask around and waiting for ur update.. lol time to go back! lol...have a nice weekend guys.. |
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Oct 4 2008, 05:09 PM
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lol , all the best to you all then , ronald enjoy your day as well
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Oct 4 2008, 11:34 PM
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Put this below myKENWOOD HU??
![]() to control air-flow?? [quote=Benjamin1213,Oct 4 2008, 02:41 PM]Either u get the compartment box or u can use acrylic board to cover it up. haha or! maybe u have intention to put in SAFC? [/quote] Added on October 4, 2008, 11:38 pmWhich stop in Subang?? I want to ask them to perfect my Audio system quote=lj0000,Oct 4 2008, 03:09 PM] on casings: i saw them at some accessory shop in subang. similar to these ones http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2779 [/quote] This post has been edited by davidmu: Oct 4 2008, 11:38 PM |
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Oct 5 2008, 12:28 AM
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Yeah, that one also can. That is AFC Neo if u really wanna fix u need to find someone who can read our wiring output diagram so that they can tap it on. Now so far there's only SAFC installed, but the owner dosent want to share where did he get it done. =/
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