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megatron007
post Jun 30 2008, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 11:40 AM)
LULIAN DVD again ?? ohh no
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Speaking of Lulian dvd, I bought a copy of the fake blu-ray to compare the quality with real ones. Definitely can see it's not as good la. Just a ploy from the pirates to sell their dvds at a premium.
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i wonder how many ppl still buying the fake BLU DVD nowadays sad.gif
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post Jun 30 2008, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:00 AM)
Morning GUYS

is the BANK JOB nice movie??? hmmm
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Just watched it on those Cap Ayam dvd last nite, I'll say it's worth getting on BD but don't expect the movie to have a 5-star AQ quality because this movie ain't Transporter or Crank. Anyway, it doesn't matter to me as long as the storyline is good and won't bore me to death. I'll give that movie a 4.5 out of 5.

QUOTE(mpyw @ Jun 30 2008, 08:29 AM)
Morning guys.....

Finally watched the National Treasure 1 last night.....superb PQ/AQ and an interesting movie too....Recommended thumbup.gif
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Guess I'll be getting this one for the next bulk if I have extra $$$ for this.

QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:14 AM)
NT1 is rocking on PQ & AQ

NT2 but AQ errr ... biggrin.gif
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Apa terjadi with NT2? Not so good? I thought the critics only complaint that the PQ not as good as NT1.

QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 30 2008, 10:09 AM)
bank job nice thumbup.gif always been a fans o jason stathom and (.Y.)
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Yup, I'm a fan of this French guy, looking forward to Transporter 3.

QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 01:25 PM)
i wonder how many ppl still buying the fake BLU DVD nowadays sad.gif
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You mean Blu-Ray rips on D9 dvds or just plain old pirate dvds? Honestly, who doesn't buy them? But for me, I won't buy Blu-Ray rips on D9 dvds, those are a waste of money because it ain't gonna look any better and yes, maybe the audio is marginally better since these Blu-Ray rips are using a higher bitrate than normal dvds.
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 01:25 PM)
i wonder how many ppl still buying the fake BLU DVD nowadays sad.gif
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LOL.. 1st they convert real 8.5GB DVD9 to fake/recompressed 4.3GB using DVD5 but cover label as DVD9

now they convert Blu-ray 25-50GB title to 8.5GB DVD9 (relabel as blu-ray dvd? hybrid technology ar? blu ray+ DVD disc?)

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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jun 30 2008, 09:25 AM)
bank job nice for me  thumbup.gif
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nowadays many people want "Bank Job", instead of the other BJ ? laugh.gif

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fuyooo ar188 aka BBA in the house

tomoro wanto makan lunchie kat KLCC or not?

since i m back to HOME office
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jun 30 2008, 01:46 PM)
But for me, I won't buy Blu-Ray rips on D9 dvds, those are a waste of money because it ain't gonna look any better and yes, maybe the audio is marginally better since these Blu-Ray rips are using a higher bitrate than normal dvds.
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actually PQ can be much better than normal DVD9.. if they throw away all the extras and jack up the bitrates during encoding of video and audio to fill up the dual layer 8.5GB capacity in DVDs like the previous superbits releases...

but I rather 1. they release 720p H.264 MKVs (with 4.3GB file size) in unker ho dvdr discs.. biggrin.gif ..
or. 2. 1080p H.264 MKVs (with 7-8GB file size) in unker ho DVD9r discs.. hehe!


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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 02:04 PM)
fuyooo ar188 aka BBA in the house

tomoro wanto makan lunchie kat KLCC or not?

since i m back to HOME office
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what fuyooo la.. you are the real elite... notworthy.gif 525i M-sport..

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 30 2008, 02:07 PM)
actually PQ can be much better than normal DVD9.. if they throw away all the extras and jack up the bitrates during encoding of video and audio to fill up the dual layer 8.5GB capacity in DVDs like the previous superbits releases...

but I rather 1. they release 720p H.264 MKVs (with 4.3GB file size) in unker ho dvdr discs..  biggrin.gif ..
or. 2. 1080p H.264 MKVs (with 7-8GB file size) in unker ho DVD9r discs.. hehe!


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what fuyooo la.. you are the real elite...  notworthy.gif  525i M-sport..
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Well, I don't bother much whether it's Blu-Ray D9 or genuine D9 dvds, standard dvd is still standard dvd and besides, original Blu-Ray titles are reasonable and even better when there's a promotion from Amazon. To me, dvds are just like preview copies, I like the movie, I'll buy the BD version. Sometimes piracy is not necessarily bad to the music or movie industry.
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jun 30 2008, 02:46 PM)
Well, I don't bother much whether it's Blu-Ray D9 or genuine D9 dvds, standard dvd is still standard dvd and besides, original Blu-Ray titles are reasonable and even better when there's a promotion from Amazon. To me, dvds are just like preview copies, I like the movie, I'll buy the BD version. Sometimes piracy is not necessarily bad to the music or movie industry.
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my posting above was just commenting on your remark "because it ain't gonna look any better" and "standard dvd is still standard dvd" of which IMHO simply isn't true. Codec compression and high bitrates plays a major role in PQ/AQ quality just like how a 64k MP3 vs 320k MP3 sounds much different..


and whether you able to afford to buy blu-ray or not, quite frankly, doesn't interest me.. cheers.. tongue.gif

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Bitrate does help to put some details, but just in the form of sharpness. One pixel of a sand pebble in 1080p BD, will be lost when converted to DVD.

When you put it into DVD format, it will be dowconverted to 480p no matter what. I've done it before, video is sharper and more vibrant colours, but nowhere near BD's 1080p resolution.

So compared to normal DVDs, BD sourced DVDs should have small improvements, but very minor. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:09 PM)
Bitrate does help to put some details, but just in the form of sharpness. One pixel of a sand pebble in 1080p BD, will be lost when converted to DVD.

When you put it into DVD format, it will be dowconverted to 480p no matter what. I've done it before, video is sharper and more vibrant colours, but nowhere near BD's 1080p resolution.

So compared to normal DVDs, BD sourced DVDs should have small improvements, but very minor. biggrin.gif
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hello, brader, I comment was refering to those "standard DVD are all the same la" comments..
which you have observed as well, 480p doesn't just mean DVD.. esp 480p downconverted from 1080p = 854x480p video files,
is more detailed video than normal anamorphic Region 1 widescreen DVDs (which are actually 640x480 data pixels stretched to 720x480)
(hence not true 720x480 pixels to begin with)
(edit, made a mistake, it should be 720x480 native non square pixel - stretched to 854x480 for 16:9 TVs)

also, if you compare with 1080p Movies surely la.. might as well say, you paying 6-8times more for BD, so I surely expect 6-8times more resolution/data than unker ho's 4.3GB DVDs as well.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:06 PM)
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I'm only interested to learn from Taiko's who,...in their twenties already drive BMWs.. notworthy.gif

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whatever it is, this is how hollywood suck us dry. take for example Top Gun. from VHS -> VCD -> LD -> DVD and now Blu Ray. what next. rclxub.gif
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Hey, I'm not taking any sides here. Just to add what I know. wink.gif

But standard anamorphic DVDs resolution is 854x480p (1.78:1 widescreen), not 720x480p, so no stretching here. . While non anamorphic is 640x480 (1.33:1 fullscreen). That's why non-anamorphic DVDs sucks, especially when they try to put a 2.35:1 ratio movie into the 1.33:1 frame.

We were talking about DVDs in a BD thread, of course we'll compare to 1080p bro. tongue.gif

But if I have a 720p MKV files, I would rather remux them and put into my PS3 than downconverting it to 480p DVD.

Don't worry lah, nobody's stopping anyone to enjoy DVDs, I've got 500 of them in my collection, and still proud of them. biggrin.gif

BTW, what is BBA? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:38 PM)
Hey, I'm not taking any sides here. Just to add what I know. wink.gif

But standard anamorphic DVDs resolution is 854x480p (1.78:1 widescreen), not 720x480p, so no stretching here. . While non anamorphic is 640x480 (1.33:1 fullscreen). That's why non-anamorphic DVDs sucks, especially when they try to put a 2.35:1 ratio movie into the 1.33:1 frame.

yeah no worry, it's just a technical discussion which I posted earlier..


I think you got your tech mixed up also about anamorpic DVDs, for dvds, watching anamorpic means stretching the image electronically if you want to watch on a 16:9 TV..
it was never stored as 854x480p 16:9 (1.78:1) , it's stored as either 720 or 704 or 640x480i and stretched to 854x480 if you want to watch on widescreen TV
oh also, DVds are usually in NTSC or PAL i.e. interlaced Mpeg2 format.. there is no NTSC+progressive scan 854x480p.
"P" is only gotten via electronic post video processing in your dvd Player or sent to TV.. (unlike Blu-rays which could have been interlaced or Progressive video stored in the disc it self.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_widescreen#DVD_Video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video


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QUOTE(Jediknight8820 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:26 PM)
whatever it is, this is how hollywood suck us dry. take for example Top Gun. from VHS -> VCD -> LD -> DVD and now Blu Ray. what next. rclxub.gif
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not to mention T2 movie also.. dunno how many copies I have liao..

LD, DVD, DVD ultimate+HD-WMV, and now wanna get bulu ray version also (due to cheap price $11).. biggrin.gif

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Maybe you're right about that progressive/NTSC/PAL thingy, never bothered about that. But there are no stretching to the actual movie ratios. Movies are shot widescreen, 2.39:1, 2.35:1, 1.85:1.

Actually I don't understand what you meant about that stretching thing, but anamorphic widescreen is 16x9 ratio (1.78:1) so no strectching is needed, only some black bars depending on the movie's actual ratio.

Ah, let's just forget about, don't bother to explain, I'm not that interested about it anyway. All I know is BD > DVD. tongue.gif

Little something I bookmarked, but never really had time to read:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/index.html

Now let's talk BD!!!

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Director Francis Ford Coppola's Epic Trilogy Debuts on DVD and Blu-ray in All Newly-Remastered Versions

The Godfather: THE COPPOLA RESTORATION
Cinematic Classics Return to their Original Pristine Glory with All-New Special Features
Must-Own Collections Arrive September 23, 2008

HOLLYWOOD, Calif., June 30 /PRNewswire/ -- More than three decades after they won the Academy Award® for Best Picture, director Francis Ford Coppola's classic films The Godfather and The Godfather, Part II will once again be enjoyed by audiences as they originally were meant to be seen, thanks to a meticulous restoration by Paramount Pictures, overseen by Coppola himself. On September 23, 2008, both fully restored films will debut on DVD and Blu-ray, along with a newly remastered version of The Godfather Part III, to be included as part of The Godfather, The Coppola Restoration Collection. All three films will be available individually or in a five-DVD collection or four-disc Blu-ray collection, which are loaded with a host of all-new special features.

The Godfather and The Godfather, Part II underwent extensive frame-by-frame examination and restoration utilizing state-of-the-art digital technology in this historic preservation effort, which required more than a year to complete. Robert A. Harris of the Film Preserve supervised the restoration under the direction of Coppola and cinematographer, Gordon Willis. Harris' restoration credits include Lawrence of Arabia, Spartacus, Vertigo and Rear Window among others.

The new special features created by Kim Aubry, founder of Zoetrope Aubry Productions, explores the complexities of the restoration process and provides new insights and perspectives about how the film almost didn't come to pass as we know it. "The Masterpiece That Almost Wasn't" relates the unlikely events, intrigue, allegiances and luck that put together the unknown director with the "unwanted" cast and contains interviews with most of the living players and many of the films' admirers. Other featurettes include " ... when the shooting stopped," and "Godfather World," which take a look at The Godfather's influence on popular culture today. Each film includes a commentary by Coppola.


THE GODFATHER: The Coppola Restoration Blu-ray Collection

THE GODFATHER: The Coppola Restoration Blu-ray four-disc set is presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital and English Mono (except The Godfather: Part III) and English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles. The following special features are presented in high definition as noted:


Disc 1:
-- The Godfather feature film
-- Commentary by director Francis Ford Coppola

Disc 2:
-- The Godfather, Part II feature film
-- Commentary by director Francis Ford Coppola

Disc 3:
-- The Godfather, Part III feature film
-- Commentary by director Francis Ford Coppola

Disc 4:
-- Godfather World (HD)
-- The Masterpiece That Almost Wasn't (HD)
-- ... when the shooting stopped (HD)
-- Emulsional Rescue-Revealing The Godfather (HD)
-- The Godfather on the Red Carpet (HD)
-- Four Short Films on The Godfather
o The Godfather vs. The Godfather, Part II (HD)
o Cannoli (HD)
o Riffing on the Riffing (HD)
o Clemenza (HD)
-- The Family Tree
-- Crime Organization Chart
-- Connie and Carlo's Wedding Album

Disc 4 (cont'd):
2001 DVD Archive:
-- Behind the Scenes
o The Godfather Family: A Look Inside
o On Location
o Francis Coppola's Notebook
o The Music of the Godfather
o Coppola & Puzo on Screenwriting
o Gordon Willis on Cinematography
o Storyboards from The Godfather, Part II
o Storyboards from The Godfather, Part III
o The Godfather Behind the Scenes 1971
-- The Filmmakers
o Francis Ford Coppola
o Mario Puzo
o Gordon Willis
o Dean Tavoularis
o Nino Rota
o Carmine Coppola
-- Additional Scenes
-- Acclaim & Response
-- Trailers (HD)
-- Photo Gallery
-- Rogues' Gallery

THE GODFATHER: The Coppola Restoration
Street Date: September 23, 2008
Pricing: $19.99 U.S. (Each Individual DVD)
$72.99 U.S. (Five-DVD Collection)
$119.99 U.S. (Four-disc Blu-ray Collection)
Runtime: 177 minutes (The Godfather)
202 minutes (The Godfather, Part II)
170 minutes (The Godfather, Part III)
Ratings: R (U.S.)/18A (Canada)-The Godfather
R (U.S.)/14A (Canada)-The Godfather, Part II
R (U.S.)/14A (Canada)-The Godfather, Part III

Source: Yahoo! Finance
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The Godfather trilogy officially announced for Sep 23

HOLLYWOOD, Calif., June 30 /PRNewswire/ -- More than three decades after they won the Academy Award® for Best Picture, director Francis Ford Coppola's classic films The Godfather and The Godfather, Part II will once again be enjoyed by audiences as they originally were meant to be seen, thanks to a meticulous restoration by Paramount Pictures, overseen by Coppola himself. On September 23, 2008, both fully restored films will debut on DVD and Blu-ray, along with a newly remastered version of The Godfather Part III, to be included as part of The Godfather, The Coppola Restoration Collection. All three films will be available individually or in a five-DVD collection or four-disc Blu-ray collection, which are loaded with a host of all-new special features.

The Godfather and The Godfather, Part II underwent extensive frame-by-frame examination and restoration utilizing state-of-the-art digital technology in this historic preservation effort, which required more than a year to complete. Robert A. Harris of the Film Preserve supervised the restoration under the direction of Coppola and cinematographer, Gordon Willis. Harris' restoration credits include Lawrence of Arabia, Spartacus, Vertigo and Rear Window among others.

The new special features created by Kim Aubry, founder of Zoetrope Aubry Productions, explores the complexities of the restoration process and provides new insights and perspectives about how the film almost didn't come to pass as we know it. "The Masterpiece That Almost Wasn't" relates the unlikely events, intrigue, allegiances and luck that put together the unknown director with the "unwanted" cast and contains interviews with most of the living players and many of the films' admirers. Other featurettes include " ... when the shooting stopped," and "Godfather World," which take a look at The Godfather's influence on popular culture today. Each film includes a commentary by Coppola.


THE GODFATHER: The Coppola Restoration Blu-ray Collection

THE GODFATHER: The Coppola Restoration Blu-ray four-disc set is presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital and English Mono (except The Godfather: Part III) and English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles. The following special features are presented in high definition as noted:


Disc 1:
-- The Godfather feature film
-- Commentary by director Francis Ford Coppola

Disc 2:
-- The Godfather, Part II feature film
-- Commentary by director Francis Ford Coppola

Disc 3:
-- The Godfather, Part III feature film
-- Commentary by director Francis Ford Coppola

Disc 4:
-- Godfather World (HD)
-- The Masterpiece That Almost Wasn't (HD)
-- ... when the shooting stopped (HD)
-- Emulsional Rescue-Revealing The Godfather (HD)
-- The Godfather on the Red Carpet (HD)
-- Four Short Films on The Godfather
o The Godfather vs. The Godfather, Part II (HD)
o Cannoli (HD)
o Riffing on the Riffing (HD)
o Clemenza (HD)
-- The Family Tree
-- Crime Organization Chart
-- Connie and Carlo's Wedding Album

Disc 4 (cont'd):
2001 DVD Archive:
-- Behind the Scenes
o The Godfather Family: A Look Inside
o On Location
o Francis Coppola's Notebook
o The Music of the Godfather
o Coppola & Puzo on Screenwriting
o Gordon Willis on Cinematography
o Storyboards from The Godfather, Part II
o Storyboards from The Godfather, Part III
o The Godfather Behind the Scenes 1971
-- The Filmmakers
o Francis Ford Coppola
o Mario Puzo
o Gordon Willis
o Dean Tavoularis
o Nino Rota
o Carmine Coppola
-- Additional Scenes
-- Acclaim & Response
-- Trailers (HD)
-- Photo Gallery
-- Rogues' Gallery

THE GODFATHER: The Coppola Restoration
Street Date: September 23, 2008
Pricing: $19.99 U.S. (Each Individual DVD)
$72.99 U.S. (Five-DVD Collection)
$119.99 U.S. (Four-disc Blu-ray Collection)
Runtime: 177 minutes (The Godfather)
202 minutes (The Godfather, Part II)
170 minutes (The Godfather, Part III)
Ratings: R (U.S.)/18A (Canada)-The Godfather
R (U.S.)/14A (Canada)-The Godfather, Part II
R (U.S.)/14A (Canada)-The Godfather, Part III


source : GODFATHER

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