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post Jun 25 2008, 01:31 PM

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post Jun 26 2008, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 26 2008, 09:58 AM)
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WHEN THE FARK IS WARLORDS COMING?
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dun talk so much.. when by goods ready? after I send alex to "belakang" you.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 30 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 01:25 PM)
i wonder how many ppl still buying the fake BLU DVD nowadays sad.gif
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LOL.. 1st they convert real 8.5GB DVD9 to fake/recompressed 4.3GB using DVD5 but cover label as DVD9

now they convert Blu-ray 25-50GB title to 8.5GB DVD9 (relabel as blu-ray dvd? hybrid technology ar? blu ray+ DVD disc?)

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post Jun 30 2008, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jun 30 2008, 09:25 AM)
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nowadays many people want "Bank Job", instead of the other BJ ? laugh.gif

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post Jun 30 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jun 30 2008, 01:46 PM)
But for me, I won't buy Blu-Ray rips on D9 dvds, those are a waste of money because it ain't gonna look any better and yes, maybe the audio is marginally better since these Blu-Ray rips are using a higher bitrate than normal dvds.
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actually PQ can be much better than normal DVD9.. if they throw away all the extras and jack up the bitrates during encoding of video and audio to fill up the dual layer 8.5GB capacity in DVDs like the previous superbits releases...

but I rather 1. they release 720p H.264 MKVs (with 4.3GB file size) in unker ho dvdr discs.. biggrin.gif ..
or. 2. 1080p H.264 MKVs (with 7-8GB file size) in unker ho DVD9r discs.. hehe!


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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 02:04 PM)
fuyooo ar188 aka BBA in the house

tomoro wanto makan lunchie kat KLCC or not?

since i m back to HOME office
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what fuyooo la.. you are the real elite... notworthy.gif 525i M-sport..

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post Jun 30 2008, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jun 30 2008, 02:46 PM)
Well, I don't bother much whether it's Blu-Ray D9 or genuine D9 dvds, standard dvd is still standard dvd and besides, original Blu-Ray titles are reasonable and even better when there's a promotion from Amazon. To me, dvds are just like preview copies, I like the movie, I'll buy the BD version. Sometimes piracy is not necessarily bad to the music or movie industry.
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my posting above was just commenting on your remark "because it ain't gonna look any better" and "standard dvd is still standard dvd" of which IMHO simply isn't true. Codec compression and high bitrates plays a major role in PQ/AQ quality just like how a 64k MP3 vs 320k MP3 sounds much different..


and whether you able to afford to buy blu-ray or not, quite frankly, doesn't interest me.. cheers.. tongue.gif

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post Jun 30 2008, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:09 PM)
Bitrate does help to put some details, but just in the form of sharpness. One pixel of a sand pebble in 1080p BD, will be lost when converted to DVD.

When you put it into DVD format, it will be dowconverted to 480p no matter what. I've done it before, video is sharper and more vibrant colours, but nowhere near BD's 1080p resolution.

So compared to normal DVDs, BD sourced DVDs should have small improvements, but very minor. biggrin.gif
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hello, brader, I comment was refering to those "standard DVD are all the same la" comments..
which you have observed as well, 480p doesn't just mean DVD.. esp 480p downconverted from 1080p = 854x480p video files,
is more detailed video than normal anamorphic Region 1 widescreen DVDs (which are actually 640x480 data pixels stretched to 720x480)
(hence not true 720x480 pixels to begin with)
(edit, made a mistake, it should be 720x480 native non square pixel - stretched to 854x480 for 16:9 TVs)

also, if you compare with 1080p Movies surely la.. might as well say, you paying 6-8times more for BD, so I surely expect 6-8times more resolution/data than unker ho's 4.3GB DVDs as well.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:06 PM)
fuyoo ..real elite spoken rclxms.gif
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I'm only interested to learn from Taiko's who,...in their twenties already drive BMWs.. notworthy.gif

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post Jun 30 2008, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:38 PM)
Hey, I'm not taking any sides here. Just to add what I know. wink.gif

But standard anamorphic DVDs resolution is 854x480p (1.78:1 widescreen), not 720x480p, so no stretching here. . While non anamorphic is 640x480 (1.33:1 fullscreen). That's why non-anamorphic DVDs sucks, especially when they try to put a 2.35:1 ratio movie into the 1.33:1 frame.

yeah no worry, it's just a technical discussion which I posted earlier..


I think you got your tech mixed up also about anamorpic DVDs, for dvds, watching anamorpic means stretching the image electronically if you want to watch on a 16:9 TV..
it was never stored as 854x480p 16:9 (1.78:1) , it's stored as either 720 or 704 or 640x480i and stretched to 854x480 if you want to watch on widescreen TV
oh also, DVds are usually in NTSC or PAL i.e. interlaced Mpeg2 format.. there is no NTSC+progressive scan 854x480p.
"P" is only gotten via electronic post video processing in your dvd Player or sent to TV.. (unlike Blu-rays which could have been interlaced or Progressive video stored in the disc it self.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_widescreen#DVD_Video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video


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QUOTE(Jediknight8820 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:26 PM)
whatever it is, this is how hollywood suck us dry. take for example Top Gun. from VHS -> VCD -> LD -> DVD and now Blu Ray. what next. rclxub.gif
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not to mention T2 movie also.. dunno how many copies I have liao..

LD, DVD, DVD ultimate+HD-WMV, and now wanna get bulu ray version also (due to cheap price $11).. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 1 2008, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 30 2008, 10:46 PM)
Taukeh, still got another very elusive member  tongue.gif

Really hoping to go to your pad for an auditoion of the lossless codecs. Sorry for the sudden request to visit  blush.gif
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htkaki.. yeah cancelled our gathering.... we can blame dat poki la.. biggrin.gif
anyway, you just have to pass me a 500GB HDD.. but it's lossy codec due to compression, not lossless yet, until we get more of those m2ts ISO blu-ray files..
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post Jul 1 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jun 30 2008, 08:55 PM)
Maybe you're right about that progressive/NTSC/PAL thingy, never bothered about that. But there are no stretching to the actual movie ratios. Movies are shot widescreen, 2.39:1, 2.35:1, 1.85:1.

Actually I don't understand what you meant about that stretching thing, but anamorphic widescreen is 16x9 ratio (1.78:1) so no strectching is needed, only some black bars depending on the movie's actual ratio.

Ah, let's just forget about, don't bother to explain, I'm not that interested about it anyway. All I know is BD > DVD. tongue.gif

Little something I bookmarked, but never really had time to read:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/index.html

Now let's talk BD!!!
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anamorpic means stretching... digitally or optically..

when you get normal widescreen DVD, it's letterboxed top and bottom (wasted data encoding black bars)
when you get anamorphic widescreen DVD, the data is encoded so that the people have very narrow faces, but fills up the top and bottom with video data (instead of black bars), then your TV (if widescreen 16:9) or DVD player will do the horizontal stretching for you...

this subject is still relevant in Blu-rays cos 2.35:1 movies have black bars encoded in Blu-rays.. cos they are not anamorpic. hence 2.35:1 scope movies don't actually have 1080p worth of movie, instead something like 800 pixel lines only.. the other 200-300 lines is encoded as black bars.. of coz, 16:9 movies like those animation and TV series, will get 1080p's worth of video.. cos no top and bottom black bars..

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post Jul 1 2008, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jul 1 2008, 11:23 AM)
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cpet, I tot you gone AWOL kena blocked?? still can post wan? biggrin.gif

ok ok back to work... (when you manage to find cheap bd drive, let me know..)
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post Jul 1 2008, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 1 2008, 11:57 AM)
I know about movies screen ratio and leterboxing and whatnot on BDs lar... tongue.gif  I just didn't understand about the stretching thing on DVD. So it's just the same as the anamorphic film stock used on Panavision lenses, while non-anamorphic is like Super35. Never thought pixels can also be stretched like film lenses. All right, thanks.
well I guess the term will mean different type of implementation for different things, say movie cameras (don't know much about this) and dvd video encoding.. or even anamorpic optical Lens used for a 16:9 projector to view fill 2.35:1 screen in a CIH (constant image height) setup.. like one of our elite bro's house here..


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 1 2008, 12:15 PM)
fuyoo 500GB HDD.  blush.gif  Need to buy 1. Yestersday, he called me.
Taikor Mega, my total sales aint as someone in this forum nia; Half a mil oh  sweat.gif Btw, how muchie for Batman Begins? We tk tis offline  wink.gif
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jul 1 2008, 01:44 PM)
today KLCC alot LLs & SLLs ... haha rclxms.gif
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didn;t chat with them ar?

anyway bro, if you want the files, can also get it from HTkaki after I copy for him. cheers!
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yeah seen his nick before in this forum.. biggrin.gif you do bulk with him ar?

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QUOTE(fentanyl @ Jul 3 2008, 10:57 AM)
Have u guys have any problem with 2.40 update? It seems that Sony has pulled PS3 2.40 Firmware after reported problems. See HERE.
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yeah lor, read some online complaints.. luckily didn't install yet..
can PS3 rollback firmware? or reinstall the old update file say around 2.30 or 2.36

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=c...=11190&Itemid=2
"PS3 Firmware 2.40 Causing Console Lock-Ups?"
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jul 3 2008, 02:08 PM)
Fuuyoh, your postman has time machine, can ship from the future!
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eh.. you didn't watch terminator: sarah connor chronicles meh? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2008, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(shindenv @ Jul 3 2008, 05:06 PM)

Where does bluray stand in the Maslow Hierarchy of needs  sweat.gif
bottom of the pyramid for me.. biggrin.gif no more fever liao.. now I just want 1TB HDD and 6x BD drive to be cheap so I can rip all my blu-rays to M2TS.. rclxms.gif
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megatron, how many BDs you got now?
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jul 4 2008, 08:31 AM)
fuyooo AR188 aka BBA at least got 3xx liao

me just a small potato tongue.gif

wei dun tambah garam and vinegar la... where got 300pcs?? the movie 300, that I got la.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(JonC @ Jul 4 2008, 11:20 AM)
more like tambah petrol into the blu fire!!!  brows.gif

aiyoh! 65"..... i think get 1080 pj + a good good screen and cables still got $$$ to spare for quite a few bd to boot.  sweat.gif
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good solution IMHO.. 1080p proj is the way forward.... (extra money buy anamorpic lens) and 65" can be secondary monitor.. biggrin.gif

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