lol..i dun c where r u getting at? y r u telling me the directions or whatever to inquire info from? i'm not the one who is seeking for answers..btw, a forum is not only for asking questions but also to join in the chatrooms or discussions as such. So ur "explanation" doesn't do any good either.

lol..in the beginning u'll get that feeling, once u r settled in and there would be more revisions and extra classes i guess. This is not like SAM where everyday u have classes just like back in high school

Hmm, i have no idea...someone else would explain it better to u. Although this Q has been asked few times already in the forum but not particularly in this thread.

i am explaining to eden ==

cie a level law has english legal system,tort and contract.we only study the extract only or whole books?

tort is one of the bulkiest llb subjects and els and contract are fundamentals. so do u think u have to study only the extract for A levels or everything there is on the subjects??

aiks, then u should have quoted his sentence rather than mine

imagine CLP's General Paper having tort and contract for M'sian Law now
and cannot bring in statute book

cant imagine a level already learn first year syllabus of llb



This post has been edited by edennature: Jul 10 2009, 08:43 PM

there u go. you'll only learn the main bits, and even then you would not be tested at llb level (duh)...

clp's gp is not that bad and there's very little statute to memorise for that paper you can get most of the marks if u can write a proper soc and extract issues from there.. i find llb's tort harder.

there is private college in malaysia did offered laws degree external studies with Uny of London which all the papers/examination held in malaysia till your final year.no need to do the twinning etc. check for kemayan ATC

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Added on July 19, 2009, 6:19 pmthanks a lot for sharing d info schiz!

i got question bout this

13.0 What if my degree is not recognised by the Malaysian government. What can I do or what options do I have?

If the degree is not recognised by JPA then the holder will not be able to work in the civil service.

If the degree is not recognised by the LPQB or S3 LPA 1976 then the only option would be to be an English Barrister, English Solicitor or Irish Barrister(subject to changes to the recognition by the LPQB) if the degree is recognised by them.

Another unlikely and impractical alternative would be to become a lawyer elsewhere and to hope that the A-G will exercise his power under Section 28A Legal Profession Act 1976 so as to enable the lawyer to petition to be admitted as an advocate and solicitor of the High Court of Malaya or Sabah and Sarawak under Section 28B. The drawback here is, it is very unlikely that this power will be exercised and there is an expiry date for the Special Admissions Certificate.

how do i know if the degree is valid or not by the JPA? any idea? im taking my degree external studies under UOL.which laters would surely continued my CLP.hope u can help me on this.

This post has been edited by m33nz: Jul 19 2009, 06:19 PM

Depends.

Most KL firms with big names, and big pay ( at least bigger) work harder, learn more (I assume). I've known some of my friends who work until 2 am everyday. very stressful. If you prefer that kinda life, then look for a firm that from the interview says "we expect you to stay back late"

If not, then choose a reasonable firm where they will expect reasonable hours from you. Most firms I know in Pj/SUbang are more laid back and go back about 6-7 sometimes later depending on the workload.

Corporate and Litigators i feel are the 'late stayers and early comers' of all.

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Added on July 20, 2009, 12:09 pmIf you're doing the external law degree under UOL. with most colleges/universities around (most famous would be either brickfields or Kemayan or KDU or HELP) I think they are the ones doing the degree now. You should have no problems with doing the CLP and being called to the Bar. So long as you have a 2nd lower honours and above. If you get a third, you will not be able to sit for your CLP and will not be called to the BAR, so please be VERY careful about this. I'm not sure if they changed this already.

Alternatively, look at the Legal Profession Act 1976. You can find this act in the Bar council website OR the AG's Chamber's Website (where they have all the acts of Malaysia there). In the Act, they will dictate what universities are exempted, what are recognised, and so forth, it should be able to cover all your queries regarding whether or not you qualify to be called to the bar.

however if you find yourself not understanding the Act, then you might just want to call the Bar Council Malaysia's HQ and ask them about admission to the bar. They are helpful if you can get them. (they're really busy)



This post has been edited by neko-gurl: Jul 20 2009, 12:09 PM

I've heard corporate and litigation is always the ones who r stressed out and come home late (very late i mean)
conveyancing is the laid back section ler
btw, it's still the same as for now regarding on the minimum grades ie. 2-2 to qualify for CLP

This post has been edited by Xziled: Jul 21 2009, 01:01 AM

anybody from taylor's college, twinning programe, to reading uni? Any comments on this uni compared to the transfer programe to Help uni.?

Ranking for law school (Only for partner universities of uk transfer degree and twinning prog)

1 University of Exeter
2 University of Cardiff
3 University of Liverpool
4 University of Reading
5 University of Manchester
6 University of Sheffield
7 University of Leeds
8 University of Hull
9 University of Aberystwyth
10 University of Oxford Brookes
11 University of west of england
12 University of Northumbria

thanks for the info. please quote source as well. Is this guardian or times?

hmm, manchester used to be above reading and cardiff, oh well...

Thanks a lot neko for sharing the information.
Will check on the Legal Profession Act 1976 as well.

just asking..how many times can you repeat CLP?

Everyone will think that manchester law school is the best among all.It is not so well-known at all.We think that it is good because we judge its law school by its reputation and ranking in THES.

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Added on July 22, 2009, 4:32 pmexeter slowy emerges one of the top 10 universities in uk

This post has been edited by edennature: Jul 22 2009, 04:32 PM

please quote source of ranking list. and i agree, exeter is improving.

the above list is based on my opinion.The below are ranking for TIMES and Guardian.

1Cambridge
2Oxford
3London School of Economics
4Nottingham
5University College London
6King's College London
7Birmingham
8Aberdeen
9Queen Mary, London
10Durham
11Edinburgh
12Bristol2
13Southampton2
14Glasgow2
15Dundee
16Strathclyde
=16Kent
18Cardiff
19Newcastle
20Exeter
21Leicester
22Warwick
23Reading
=23Liverpool
=23Sussex
26Queen's Belfast
27Manchester
28East Anglia
29Hull
30Sheffield
31Lancaster
32Keele
33Leeds
34Robert Gordon
35School of Oriental and African Studies
36Oxford Brookes
37Aberystwyth
38Swansea
=38Nottingham Trent
40Buckingham
41West of England
42Loughborough
43Essex
44Sunderland0
45Northumbria
46Portsmouth
47Brunel
48Surrey
49Manchester Metropolitan
50Central Lancashire
=50Edinburgh Napier
52Glamorgan
=52Derby
54Stirling
=54City
56De Montfort
57Glasgow Caledonian
58Hertfordshire
60Ulster
=60Kingston
62East London
63Teesside
64Bangor
65Salford
66Westminster

67Lincoln

68Staffordshire
69Liverpool John Moores
70Plymouth1
71Gloucestershire
=71Buckinghamshire New
73Huddersfield
74Sheffield Hallam
75Greenwich
76Abertay
77Middlesex
78Coventry
79Bournemouth
80Birmingham City
=80Southampton Solent
82Bedfordshire
83Wolverhampton
84Bradford
85Edge Hill
86Northampton
87Leeds Metropolitan
88Anglia Ruskin
89Thames Valley
90London South Bank
91Canterbury Christ Church

Leeds suppose to be the top 10 law school in uk however its ranking had dropped tremendously started from 2007.I thought manchester should be at least top 20 but its ranking is not high at all.

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Added on July 23, 2009, 4:55 pmthe best universities for uk transfer degree perhaps is cardiff but never be the top 10 law school



1 Cambridge 100 95 79 10 15.5 88 8 527
2 Oxford 91.2 10.8 80 9 526
3 UCL 89.5 88 59 10 20.1 92 8 486
4 Edinburgh 88.1 87 32 10 14.2 84 8 477
5 King's College London 87.6 93 80 8 13.5 81 9 463
6 London School of Economics 86.6 81 65 9 13 85 9 513
7 Warwick 84.6 91 59 9 15.1 79 8 458
8 Birmingham 81 92 77 10 17.8 80 4 428
9 Queen Mary 79.4 95 81 16.3 74 6 404
10 Glasgow 77.7 88 38 6 15.6 89 8 481
11 Durham 76.2 84 53 7 17.9 77 8 483
12 SOAS 75.8 84 56 9 14.1 70 8 400
13 Dundee 74.4 87 68 7 17.4 83 7 417
14 Nottingham 74 92 57 7 16.7 83 4 462
15 Bristol 73.9 88 48 7 18.5 83 7 459
16 Exeter 73.5 92 62 4 15.9 83 7 414
17 Lancaster 73.2 85 55 8 15.4 78 7 403
17 Manchester 73.2 85 47 8 19.7 78 7 465
19 Aberdeen 72.8 95 74 4 23.3 88 8 417
20 Southampton 72.5 91 72 6 18.6 77 6 432
21 Cardiff 72.3 86 54 9 17.4 76 5 416
22 Strathclyde 72.2 87 47 8 25.6 84 8 436
23 Buckingham 71.9 94 80 4 11.5 7 263
24 Robert Gordon 71.5 4 20.3 95 8 337
25 Newcastle 71.1 88 78 5 22.6 71 8 448
26 Sussex 69.6 92 67 4 19.6 79 8 374
27 Leeds 67.9 82 52 6 20.8 75 7 442
28 Edinburgh Napier 67.3 4 20.7 77 9 323
29 Leicester 67.1 90 68 5 24 77 7 370
30 Liverpool 66.8 84 54 6 19.9 78 6 408
30 Queen's, Belfast 66.8 82 40 5 18.1 84 7 405
32 Kent 66.3 89 65 6 16.7 77 4 360
33 City 65.4 82 53 6 17.3 66 8 360
34 Nottingham Trent 65.1 84 66 7 15.9 79 3 314
34 Sheffield 65.1 86 54 4 22.5 79 7 412
36 Hull 64.8 89 65 4 16.6 77 5 324
37 Reading 64.4 86 66 3 20.8 74 8 374
38 Portsmouth 64.3 90 55 7 16.7 74 5 294
39 Stirling 63.4 4 18 69 7
39 UEA 63.4 89 70 4 27.9 77 7 382
41 Essex 63.3 84 54 5 14.8 67 7 319
42 Thames Valley 63 80 63 8 9.9 4 199
43 Keele 62.2 88 49 5 16.3 77 4 328
44 Northumbria 61.6 84 56 5 25.4 90 4 362
45 Sunderland 61.2 99 93 8 28.5 62 5 223
46 Derby 60.2 97 87 4 24.2 58 8 250
47 Bedfordshire 59.6 82 78 3 13.5 57 9 206
47 Gloucestershire 59.6 94 81 5 26.5 6 252
49 Sheffield Hallam 59.5 85 58 6 19.9 60 8 275
50 Oxford Brookes 59 80 41 6 19.7 81 4 327
51 Staffordshire 58.4 82 63 6 20 67 7 268
52 UWE Bristol 57.9 88 67 4 20.9 70 5 306
53 Manchester Met 56.9 80 55 4 19.4 71 6 308
54 Brunel 56.5 78 46 4 20.9 69 5 359
55 Plymouth 56 85 65 6 18.2 57 6 264
56 Leeds Met 55 78 57 21.8 59 3 289
57 Glasgow Caledonian 54.9 84 51 3 27.7 67 7 371
58 Kingston 54.7 87 66 3 27 65 8 277
59 Aberystwyth 54.5 86 59 4 18.5 70 3 314
60 Bangor

case is different in Guardian University guide.Manchester ranks 17 which is higher than cardiff. Aberystwyth and UWE rank at the bottom.I doubt this ranking list.It is not accurate.
In conclusion,Times is better than Guardian.

This post has been edited by edennature: Jul 23 2009, 04:55 PM

Correction: The Act does not dictate all the information. Look at the definition section (section 3 of the act), specifically, who is a qualified person. The Act tells you the specifics for paragraph a and b but it gives the Qualifying Board the power under paragraph c to recognise additional qualifications. These additional qualifications are not contained in the Act and its updated list is always with the Qualifying Board because they are the ones recognising the qualifications and NOT the Bar Council.

To understand more on the composition of the Qualifying Board, please refer to the Act itself.

:-)