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University Useful information for prospective law students, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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TSschizophrenic
post Jun 7 2009, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(silverfoxes @ Jun 6 2009, 10:46 PM)
loquitar or loquitor??
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loquitur

I wouldn't really bother much about it. In practice, it will become apparent when you are drafting your particulars of claim. You do not specifically say that you are relying on res ipsa. It is obvious based on your PoC.

Moreover, it is common practice to just call it res ipsa.
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For academic purposes, follow what your textbook tells you.


Added on June 7, 2009, 11:10 am
QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 6 2009, 04:13 AM)
Is there any different if i pursue law in australia instead of england?
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This is something that you should verify with the Legal Profession Qualifying Board (should you intend to practise law).

:-)

The most important thing is the recognition of your qualification by the Board.

Further to that, you might want to consider if you intend to practise law in Malaysia or Australia.

Do check with the appropriate State that you intend to practise law in.

Also, do note that even if you are a qualified legal practitioner in Australia, the Board may require you to sit for a qualifications exam(currently CLP) so that you can proceed with pupillage in Malaysia.



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post Jun 7 2009, 05:28 PM

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graduates from bvc do not need to pupilage in england.But is it difficult to enter BVC?

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post Jun 7 2009, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 7 2009, 09:28 AM)
graduates from bvc do not need to pupilage in england.But is it difficult to enter BVC?
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At present, it is still an even chance of entering. Although most people said that it is easy, I do know quite a number of students who failed to secure a place on the BVC.

In addition, refer to the first page on the proposed Bar Professional Training Course.

:-)
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post Jun 7 2009, 08:41 PM

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to increase the chance,i can send all application to uni that offer bvc.For transfer degree,Bac or help uni better?

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QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 7 2009, 12:41 PM)
to increase the chance,i can send all application to uni that offer bvc.For transfer degree,Bac or help uni better?
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The BVC Online Application allows you to apply for all the providers
However, You will only be able to select the top 3 for the first round offers. The rest will go to the second round pool system.

The providers will be able to identify their priority in your selection. Therefore, it is more likely that you will be able to get your first choice than your third choice. However, other considerations will be taken into account by them.


As for the programme in BAC or Help, you should consider asking opinion from others.

I normally(at least I try to) refrain myself from expressing my views on those matters.

I believe that it all comes down to your personal choice. :-)
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post Jun 8 2009, 10:44 AM

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Year 1

DL1 Legal Method & Systems
DL2 Law of Contract
DL3 Constitutional & Administrative Law
DL4 Criminal Law
DL5 Legal Skills

These are the subjects that offered by help uni in year 1. i go to uk university like cardiff in year 2,but they only offer law of tort during their year 1.How to cope this problem?
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post Jun 8 2009, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 8 2009, 02:44 AM)
Year 1

DL1    Legal Method & Systems
DL2    Law of Contract
DL3    Constitutional & Administrative Law
DL4    Criminal Law
DL5    Legal Skills

These are the subjects that offered by help uni in year 1. i go to uk university like cardiff in year 2,but they only offer law of tort during their year 1.How to cope this problem?
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Considering that Tort is one of the core papers in LL.B, you would have to sit for it wouldn't you?
:-)

If you did not take it prior to transferring to another University then you would probably have to take it one way or another in the new university wouldn't you?



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but most of the universities teach tort in year 1.thats mean i have to take it during 2nd or 3rd year


Added on June 8, 2009, 3:23 pmis there any differences between clp and barrister-at-law?i know barrister is prestige.Hence,CLP holders will be looked down or not?

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QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 8 2009, 06:01 AM)
but most of the universities teach tort in year 1.thats mean i have to take it during 2nd or 3rd year


Added on June 8, 2009, 3:23 pmis there any differences between clp and barrister-at-law?i know barrister is prestige.Hence,CLP holders will be looked down or not?
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As regards your second question, I would personally say no. The training given is different. :-)

It is also unfair to ask this question because a CLP grad or even a local grad would 'normally' have the tendency to support CLP holders where as a barrister-at-law would think that their training is much better.

Therefore, this is somewhat a forum non inconveniens for that matter.



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criminal case is under litigation?


Added on June 8, 2009, 5:21 pmUnder such circumstances, the alternative qualification for purposes of being admitted to the High Court of Malaya would be
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Graduate of a local university;

Holder of a Certificate of Legal Practice (CLP) held by the Legal Qualifying Board of Malaysia

and in the cases of Sarawak, either

a graduate of a local university/holder of CLP/Australian graduate who has been called to the Bar.

The last word Bar is for australian bar?

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QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 8 2009, 08:49 AM)
criminal case is under litigation?


Added on June 8, 2009, 5:21 pmUnder such circumstances, the alternative qualification for purposes of being admitted to the High Court of Malaya would be
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Graduate of a local university;

Holder of a Certificate of Legal Practice (CLP) held by the Legal Qualifying Board of Malaysia

and in the cases of Sarawak, either

a graduate of a local university/holder of CLP/Australian graduate who has been called to the Bar.

The last word Bar is for australian bar?
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Under what circumstances?
Where did you get that quote from?

I do not know about the case in the High Court of Borneo. I normally presume that it would be dependent on the qualification being in the gazette. As far as I am aware, the Australian Bar is not included in the gazette.

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start from 2008,the bvc graduates have to pupilage before they are given a title barrister-at-law.am i wrong?


Added on June 8, 2009, 10:53 pmdispute resolution also includes criminal case?

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post Jun 9 2009, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 8 2009, 02:43 PM)
start from 2008,the bvc graduates have to pupilage before they are given a title barrister-at-law.am i wrong?


Added on June 8, 2009, 10:53 pmdispute resolution also includes criminal case?
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No
The Bar Standards Board has decided not to implement Sir David Clementi's proposal on deferral of call.



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wig,gown and jabot still apply in malaysia court for lawyer?

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post Jun 9 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(edennature @ Jun 9 2009, 07:38 AM)
wig,gown and jabot still apply in malaysia court for lawyer?
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haha, edited your post before i could ask u what in the world was "jaggot"....


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hi, sorry to burden you by asking you some questions, i didnt study anything about law during my pre-u studies, forgive me by being ignorant. I would like to ask you a few questions, firstly, what do you all mean by 'attachment wif law firm during 1st year/2nd year? how to do that? is it the attachment you mean is actually kinda internship? secondly, i'm currently doin uk degree programme transfer, 2+1, which University is good, in your opinions? i'd some research on the web and oso trhu forums, i found out that king's college, cardiff, uwe, warwick are among the tops. i know i've better chance to enter cardiff or uwe via this programme as they are partner U of brickfields, but is it possible for me to apply for Uni like cambridge/oxford provided that i do very well in my 1st n 2nd year in malaysia? apart of that, my uncle in london told me that there are a lot of summer schools teaching about law in uk, if i enroll to one summer school and do about 5 months of internship in law firms in malaysia b4 i transfer to UK, will i hv a higher chance to go into those good Uni easier?

sorry if i've caused u any trouble. i'll really appreaciate if you can help me, thanks.
Posting this on behalf of someone.....
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where r u going to work? drool.gif
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where r u going to work? drool.gif
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A law firm in Kelana Jaya lor smile.gif
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QUOTE(Xziled @ Jun 9 2009, 08:57 PM)
A law firm in Kelana Jaya lor smile.gif
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i heard that u were a student of brickfields, im gonna start my college life there in 1 week plus time. i would like to ask you how's the life there? what else should i do so that i can be well equipped in reading law?

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