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sktwo2
post Jul 12 2008, 01:14 AM

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hi there..
currently i'm pursuing a Science degree in local uni...

i would like to know more about part-tile law degree thingy... n izzit possible for me to practice law in malaysia after i have completed the course..
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post Jul 12 2008, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(sktwo2 @ Jul 12 2008, 01:14 AM)
hi there..
currently i'm pursuing a Science degree in local uni...

i would like to know more about part-tile law degree thingy... n izzit possible for me to practice law in malaysia after i have completed the course..
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You can opt to do the Bachelor of Jurisprudence from UM by way of external study or the University of London LLB by way of external study as well. There are colleges offering tuition for these 2 courses part time. You can try contacting ATC or BAC in KL.

Yes it is possible for you to practise law upon successful completion of either course. However, the limitation is that you must complete the course within a prescribed period for your qualification to be recognised by the Qualifying Board. You will then be required to sit for the CLP examination before being considered as a qualified person under the Legal Profession Act. Please refer to the 1st page for more information regarding the routes and entry requirement for purposes of recognition by the Qualifying Board.

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post Jul 12 2008, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Jul 12 2008, 02:19 AM)
You can opt to do the Bachelor of Jurisprudence from UM by way of external study or the University of London LLB by way of external study as well. There are colleges offering tuition for these 2 courses part time. You can try contacting ATC or BAC in KL.

Yes it is possible for you to practise law upon successful completion of either course. However, the limitation is that you must complete the course within a prescribed period for your qualification to be recognised by the Qualifying Board. You will then be required to sit for the CLP examination before being considered as a qualified person under the Legal Profession Act. Please refer to the 1st page for more information regarding the routes and entry requirement for purposes of recognition by the Qualifying Board.
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may i know what's the difference between Bachelor of Jurisprudence and University of London LLB?
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post Jul 12 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(sktwo2 @ Jul 12 2008, 10:46 AM)
may i know what's the difference between Bachelor of Jurisprudence and University of London LLB?
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Bachelor of Jurisprudence, you'll be studying Malaysian Law and the qualification is awarded by UM. It is designed mirroring UoL's external system. You can compare the syllabus at the atc and bac's website. Almost all the core papers are the same but UoL seems to offer more electives. The cost for Bachelor of Jurisprudence is naturally much cheaper as opposed to UOL's.
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post Jul 12 2008, 11:53 AM

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i'm thinking of maybe doing a juris doctorate in melbourne uni after my bachelor's degree. can anyone tell me more about the JD? or should i just go ahead and do an LLB in monash? what's the difference between the two?
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i'm thinking of maybe doing a juris doctorate in melbourne uni after my bachelor's degree. can anyone tell me more about the JD? or should i just go ahead and do an LLB in monash? what's the difference between the two?
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The standard for a JD varies. You should check with the institution directly on the recognition and the structure. It is supposed to be more challenging than an LLB as it is a graduate qualification and generally recognised as a doctorate. Do note that you will be required to sit for the LSAT (Law School Admission Test) prior to admission into Melbourne's JD.

I do not know much on Australian qualifications but perhaps you can contact RBR who is an LLB graduate from Australia.

In addition, I cannot confirm whether a JD is recognised in Malaysia because there does not appear to be any point of reference. You should check with the Qualifying Board with regard to their recognition of a JD from Melbourne.

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post Jul 13 2008, 02:46 AM

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So schizo, I'm here to patronize your thread! tongue.gif

Nice write up, although I just briefly scanned through. smile.gif
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post Jul 13 2008, 02:50 AM

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tomoro clp exams !

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post Jul 14 2008, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(hydrogenation @ Jul 12 2008, 11:53 AM)
i'm thinking of maybe doing a juris doctorate in melbourne uni after my bachelor's degree. can anyone tell me more about the JD? or should i just go ahead and do an LLB in monash? what's the difference between the two?
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Same thing. Melb Uni has changed from an undergraduate entry to a graduate entry for some courses. Their JD is equivalent to an LLB elsewhere, just named JD because its a graduate entry program.
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post Jul 16 2008, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(RBR @ Jul 14 2008, 04:36 AM)
Same thing.  Melb Uni has changed from an undergraduate entry to a graduate entry for some courses.  Their JD is equivalent to an LLB elsewhere, just named JD because its a graduate entry program.
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The content of course is slightly different as well.Though in terms of recognization, both are same.
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post Jul 17 2008, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Jul 8 2008, 11:41 PM)
I am not too sure about matriculation but I believe that it should be 2 years. Correct me if I am wrong.

A levels on the other hand ranges from 10 months to 18 months.

You'll be able to find more help regarding Pre-U education in other previous threads.

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Matriculation only takes 1 year time but it would be quite risky because most of the private institution don't recognise it. The advantage is that you will be having better chances of getting the local public university and the course of your choice.

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QUOTE(~JeAnNe~ @ Jul 17 2008, 01:47 PM)
Matriculation only takes 1 year time but it would be quite risky because most of the private institution don't recognise it. The advantage is that you will be having better chances of getting the local public university and the course of your choice.

* Supporting schizo's thread.. =) *
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Do local uni really accept matriculation?
A friend of mine was from matriculation and it happen that UM rejected him becase he is not from form 6.oh, he is a non malay by the way.

Anyway, fyi, most external programme/2+1 does not accept matriculation(even aussie matric, dats y dun even think of local matric), its better to go for a level instead of matric where it carries a certain risk. smile.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 16 2008, 06:25 PM)
The content of course is slightly different as well.Though in terms of recognization, both are same.
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In terms of subjects, its the same although they may be called different things. They all have to do the Priestley 11 subjects which form all your compulsory subjects. The rest are electives, which, for your level, are largely similar as well. The textbooks used are pretty much similar too.
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QUOTE(RBR @ Jul 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
In terms of subjects, its the same although they may be called different things.  They all have to do the Priestley 11 subjects which form all your compulsory subjects.  The rest are electives, which, for your level, are largely similar as well.  The textbooks used are pretty much similar too.
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but i do hear that some cases are different .Though, i m not sure about this.

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post Jul 20 2008, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 17 2008, 05:40 PM)
Do local uni really accept matriculation?
A friend of mine was from matriculation and it happen that UM rejected him becase he is not from form 6.oh, he is a non malay by the way.

Anyway, fyi, most external programme/2+1 does not accept matriculation(even aussie matric, dats y dun even think of local matric), its better to go for a level instead of matric where it carries a certain risk. smile.gif
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Actually we can conclude that matriculation is meant for local public uni since most of the uni dont really recognise it.. UM probably rejected him because of his matriculation result... It is not possible to reject him just because he did not do his STPM..i gotta some friends who had finished matriculation and dont get any offer from the local public university... biggrin.gif
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post Jul 21 2008, 11:12 PM

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if law must take STPM first ka?
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post Jul 22 2008, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jul 21 2008, 11:12 PM)
if law must take STPM first ka?
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It is not necessary for your to take STPM unless you intend to read law at a local public institution. You may take any pre-u qualification provided that it is recognised by the University that you intend to enrol and also the Qualifying Board so as to ensure that you will have the possibility of sitting for additional examinations (if required) to become a qualified person for purposes of being an Advocate and Solicitor.

This is based on the assumption that you intend to practise in Malaysia

Please refer to the first page on the various routes
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/715460

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post Jul 23 2008, 07:50 PM

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Ouh,if at UK for law need to take STPM right?

what is the best university offer law in London?

btw,I heard law certs is d paling laku right?Easy to get work in any field eh biggrin.gif
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post Jul 23 2008, 08:01 PM

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If you can't even be bothered to do your own research as to which universities are good how do you expect to go to university let alone study law?

And no, its extremely difficult to get work in the UK as a foreigner.
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post Jul 23 2008, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jul 23 2008, 07:50 PM)
Ouh,if at UK for law need to take STPM right?

what is the best university offer law in London?

btw,I heard law certs is d paling laku right?Easy to get work in any field eh biggrin.gif
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Personally, I'd prefer Oxford for law though most bodies that provide rankings will go for Cambridge. Alternatively, you can consider King's College London. (Influenced by Oxford's education in jurisprudential theories)

Whether an LLB degree is the most sought after qualification is a very subjective question. However, I would not generally think it is. (Applying a relativist view)

It depends on your employer whether or not they would like to hire you. In the UK, the employment opportunities for Non UK and Non EU residents are extremely challenging(My opinion would differ accordingly depending on the profession).

In Malaysia, with an LLB alone you will probably be able to find employment in companies with a legal department, companies that provide will writing services, banks, etc.

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