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University Useful information for prospective law students, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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hamtaro98
post May 2 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 2 2012, 09:02 PM)
The only way is to apply for exemption from the Ministry of Law. But they have a record of not granting it to UOL external LLB holders.
Neither is your friend in better position since Hertfordshire is not on the list of recognised universities and it is not a terribly good university.
But it is worth a shot if you have outstanding results and some experience in practice. Otherwise chances are very slim.
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Well, looks like i will just going to be a paralegal in Singapore, is it okay to do this ?
academiclawyer
post May 2 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(hamtaro98 @ May 2 2012, 11:33 PM)
Well, looks like i will just going to be a paralegal in Singapore, is it okay to do this ?
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Yes. You'll get paid about $2k. But there's little career advancement to speak of. You don't want to be a paralegal forever right?
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post May 3 2012, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(pauliet @ May 2 2012, 10:06 AM)
How hard is it for someone with mediocre A-Level grades (not 3A's type) to get at least a 2:2 in a law degree?
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It's possible so long as you put in adequate efforts and time into your degree.


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QUOTE(hamtaro98 @ May 2 2012, 08:53 PM)
Mine is University of London and my friend llb is from University of Hertfordshire.
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 2 2012, 09:02 PM)
The only way is to apply for exemption from the Ministry of Law. But they have a record of not granting it to UOL external LLB holders.
Neither is your friend in better position since Hertfordshire is not on the list of recognised universities and it is not a terribly good university.
But it is worth a shot if you have outstanding results and some experience in practice. Otherwise chances are very slim.
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Thought these days they only recognized their own production of lawyers from NUS? Hardly hear any exemption anymore, no? I might be wrong though.

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post May 3 2012, 12:26 AM

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Added on May 3, 2012, 3:16 am
QUOTE(qazhang @ Apr 29 2012, 05:09 PM)
Is Singapore Management Uni (SMU) law degree is recognised in malaysia? and law graduate from that uni?
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Not at the moment.


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Added on May 3, 2012, 12:20 am
Thought these days they only recognized their own production of lawyers from NUS? Hardly hear any exemption anymore, no? I might be wrong though.
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And SMU. There is a shortage of lawyers. But they don't want to compromise on the quality.

I don't personally know people who have gotten an exemption. But I heard that there are, though very very few.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 3 2012, 03:19 AM
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post May 3 2012, 03:11 PM

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nobody's going to sign up as first year in ATC and brickfields?
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post May 3 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(hushpuppiesnike @ May 3 2012, 03:11 PM)
nobody's going to sign up as first year in ATC and brickfields?
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I'll sign up next year. tongue.gif
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post May 3 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(rexus @ May 3 2012, 06:36 PM)
I'll sign up next year. tongue.gif
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meaning you'll take the first time exam in 2014?
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post May 3 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(hamtaro98 @ May 2 2012, 03:33 PM)
Well, looks like i will just going to be a paralegal in Singapore, is it okay to do this ?
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I have just recently read about an article about singapore ministry of laws is considering to recognise UoL's LLB. However i dont have much positive anticipation over it. Singpore does not even recognise HKU's LLB, you can imagine why Hertforshire isnt listed? University of Malaya isnt in the list as well.

There is a way to get admitted into Singapore bar actually, as a foreign lawyer. You'll need to become an advocate and solicitor of High Court of Malaya and have at least two years PQE.

Getting called to the s'pre bar(part 1)
Getting called to the s'pore bar part 2

Well, you could still opt to in house position in Singapore.

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post May 3 2012, 10:18 PM

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meaning you'll take the first time exam in 2014?
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I'll be taking the first time exam in 2014 for UOL LLB smile.gif
currently doing my A Levels
academiclawyer
post May 3 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(jhong @ May 3 2012, 10:10 PM)
I have just recently read about an article about singapore ministry of laws is considering to recognise UoL's LLB. However i dont have much positive anticipation over it. Singpore does not even recognise HKU's LLB, you can imagine why Hertforshire isnt listed?  University of Malaya isnt in the list as well.

There is a way to get admitted into Singapore bar actually, as a foreign lawyer. You'll need to become an advocate and solicitor of High Court of Malaya and have at least two years PQE.

Getting called to the s'pre bar(part 1)
Getting called to the s'pore bar part 2

Well, you could still opt to in house position in Singapore.
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That's because many Singaporean UOL LLB external holders protested. They won't recognise it but may be less hard when granting the exemption.

To be a true 'foreign lawyer', i.e. not the 'called-to-the-malaysian-bar-type-paralegal', you need to have a number of years of experience as a lawyer in another jurisdiction and sit for a special exam. Apparently there are no courses to prepare you for it. And you can only practise commercial law.

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post May 4 2012, 04:25 PM

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anyone selling their UOL LLB notes?
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post May 4 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 2 2012, 11:50 PM)
Yes. You'll get paid about $2k. But there's little career advancement to speak of. You don't want to be a paralegal forever right?
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Ya, SGD 2k is about right. Big difference considering some are paid somewhere around SGD5k for first year. (non international firms)

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post May 5 2012, 05:24 PM

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Hi there, I am new here and I am not sure if this topic has been raised before in the past.

I would like to ask for advice regarding which university I should choose to transfer for my final year of the UK transfer programme in Brickfields college. For direct application we have a choice between Hull, Northumbria, Aberystwyth and Hertfordshire. I am not sure regarding the pro and cons of each uni and would like to ask around before coming to a decision.
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QUOTE(aodhwulfe @ May 5 2012, 05:24 PM)
Hi there, I am new here and I am not sure if this topic has been raised before in the past.

I would like to ask for advice regarding which university I should choose to transfer for my final year of the UK transfer programme in Brickfields college. For direct application we have a choice between Hull, Northumbria, Aberystwyth and Hertfordshire. I am not sure regarding the pro and cons of each uni and would like to ask around before coming to a decision.
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Hi, mate. Which batch are u? smile.gif
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post May 5 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(aodhwulfe @ May 5 2012, 05:24 PM)
Hi there, I am new here and I am not sure if this topic has been raised before in the past.

I would like to ask for advice regarding which university I should choose to transfer for my final year of the UK transfer programme in Brickfields college. For direct application we have a choice between Hull, Northumbria, Aberystwyth and Hertfordshire. I am not sure regarding the pro and cons of each uni and would like to ask around before coming to a decision.
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I thought they also have Cardiff, Reading, Liverpool?
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post May 5 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(rexus @ May 5 2012, 10:58 PM)
I thought they also have Cardiff, Reading, Liverpool?
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Not direct, but they do help us apply to the university that we desire, though must also apply UCAS as well. But i must say direct application is much easier.
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post May 6 2012, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(M@Y @ May 5 2012, 03:17 PM)
Not direct, but they do help us apply to the university that we desire, though must also apply UCAS as well. But i must say direct application is much easier.
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UCAS application isnt that complicated actually.
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post May 6 2012, 01:59 AM

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Erm, I was just wondering if lawyers in malaysia have billable hours?
academiclawyer
post May 6 2012, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(M@Y @ May 5 2012, 11:17 PM)
Not direct, but they do help us apply to the university that we desire, though must also apply UCAS as well. But i must say direct application is much easier.
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Seriously, that cannot be a reason why you don't apply to the better universities. I'm sure UCAS won't be a problem if you handle offer and acceptance.
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post May 6 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(M@Y @ May 5 2012, 10:32 PM)
Hi, mate. Which batch are u? smile.gif
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the batch currently taking examinations. ; )



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