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post Jun 8 2008, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 8 2008, 03:06 PM)
calculate since 1996 la bro baru adil coz Wenger join arsenal on that year according to wiki .... how much both of them win all the competiton they had join...
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ferguson - 7 EPL, 2 UCL
wenger - 3 EPL + 49 unbeaten runs

no difference also whistling.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:12 PM

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okie, Arsene Wenger is good manager, I respect that fact that he do bought in alot of youngsters and train them become world class players. No doubt he spent less but he do make few mistakes in the transfer market too like SAF.

His United Nation team can be good but cannot become best, when 1, 2 season they win nothing, they will start looking elsewhere like Barca, Real or Milans for better future...then Wenger has to rebuild again by buying few more in, train and take another 2, 3 seasons to progress..bla bla bla and the same situations happened.

Arsenal is just a club to buy cheap unknown players, trained them become world class players...then the players themselves "betrayed" the club and demand transfer to big club

I wonder what will happen, IF, the 6+5 rules does implement, I wonder how's Wenger's United Nation team
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 8 2008, 03:09 PM)
there's a cantonese saying sounds like this, "if a cow doesn't wish to drink water, u can't force it to lay down it's head" (*no flame intended, there's is really such sayin if u know cantonese). it's pointless to debate here as there's no judges to decide who's gonna win, all these will only lead to flame bating which will make us (united fans) look like  we are forcing ppl to agree w/ us that SAF is d best among all managers listed.  smile.gif

remember, one can get respect from others by earning it, not by forcing.  wink.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:16 PM


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QUOTE(booty @ Jun 8 2008, 03:13 PM)
serzly this poll was destined to phail. Any poll which have manyoo related stuff in it will end up in favor of them. most if not all manyoo fanboyz will vote for them irregardless of it being honest or dishonest opinion. it is that simple. i shall rest my case.
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FYI, some of us will said Wenger is best manager if they can achieved what SAF achieved for last 10 years in BPL.
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 8 2008, 02:11 PM)
this is the main reason u create the tread....

actually each of the managers in the list was the good one, thats why we dont have poll for this kinda of topic. its not like judging "the richest people in the world" where we r gonna judge by their assest and money not by how they get that money or assest. i am off!! enuogh.
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 8 2008, 02:50 PM)
i will agreed if u judge in inter of last 5 years
yeah its still too early to judge.different league,arguably a lot easier than the epl but as the famous cliche goes,in football anything can happen.actually i'd like to see ferguson have a go at the scottish national team and wenger trying his hand for france smile.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:23 PM

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Alex Ferguson - 10 EPL, 2 UCL
Arsene Wenger - 3 EPL + 49 Unbeated Run

source: wiki
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LOl!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 8 2008, 03:12 PM)
okie, Arsene Wenger is good manager, I respect that fact that he do bought in alot of youngsters and train them become world class players. No doubt he spent less but he do make few mistakes in the transfer market too like SAF.

His United Nation team can be good but cannot become best, when 1, 2 season they win nothing, they will start looking elsewhere like Barca, Real or Milans for better future...then Wenger has to rebuild again by buying few more in, train and take another 2, 3 seasons to progress..bla bla bla and the same situations happened.

Arsenal is just a club to buy cheap unknown players, trained them become world class players...then the players themselves "betrayed" the club and demand transfer to big club

I wonder what will happen, IF, the 6+5 rules does implement, I wonder how's Wenger's United Nation team
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Hire Disco333 As Their New Manager biggrin.gif

AW Sure Can't Handle It...


The New R & R 6 + 5 Porposely Target On Arsenal And Other Arsenal Alike Club..

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post Jun 8 2008, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(ipodunlimited @ Jun 8 2008, 02:35 PM)
Neutrally speaking and based on current achievements(with different clubs and country level) to date,it has gotta be Lippi.Won domestic Serie A,Supercoppa Italiana,Coppa Italiana,UEFA Euro Super Cup/Champions League,Intercontinental Cup and most importantly Fifa World Cup.If he had managed an European country to victory this Euro08,he would have achieved something unique similar to Grand Slam in the tennis world.
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good source but u must know Lowyat forum is full of MU fan,there is more better player and managers outside Britain but for them Ferguson and Ronaldo is the best in the world,i you dont believe just open new poll/thread

Example
If u open Best Manager Poll,SAF will get top,who Lippi??who Hiddink??

If u open Best Player Poll,CR will get top,who Kaka??who Messi??

If u open Best Ex-Player Poll,Cantona will get top,who Maradona??who Pele??
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:36 PM)
good source but u must know Lowyat forum is full of MU fan,there is more better player and managers outside Britain but for them Ferguson and Ronaldo is the best in the world,i you dont believe just open new poll/thread

Example
If u open Best Manager Poll,SAF will get top,who Lippi??who Hiddink??

If u open Best Player Poll,CR will get top,who Kaka??who Messi??

If u open Best Ex-Player Poll,Cantona will get top,who Maradona??who Pele??
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=341101&hl=Best

Henry got the most vote. I guess we can say this forum are filled with Arsenal and Barca fans huh? whistling.gif whistling.gif (BTW I'm being Sarcastic)
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:36 PM)
good source but u must know Lowyat forum is full of MU fan,there is more better player and managers outside Britain but for them Ferguson and Ronaldo is the best in the world,i you dont believe just open new poll/thread

Example
If u open Best Manager Poll,SAF will get top,who Lippi??who Hiddink??

If u open Best Player Poll,CR will get top,who Kaka??who Messi??

If u open Best Ex-Player Poll,Cantona will get top,who Maradona??who Pele??
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i strongly agree with you, not just MU but the whole epl clubs that which they r familiar with eventhough they r much better player or coach outside EPL

EPL is a total madness in LYN or i say Malaysia
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(corez @ Jun 8 2008, 03:48 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=341101&hl=Best

Henry got the most vote. I guess we can say this forum are filled with Arsenal and Barca fans huh?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  (BTW I'm being Sarcastic)
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Henry and Cantona>Pele and Maradona doh.gif
the conclusion is if u win couple of UCL and many EPL title mean u r the best in the world even some one outside UK win Serie A,Super Coppa Italiana,Coppa Italiana,UEFA Euro Super Cup,UEFA Champions League,Intercontinental Cup and FIFA World Cup


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QUOTE(corez @ Jun 8 2008, 03:48 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=341101&hl=Best

Henry got the most vote. I guess we can say this forum are filled with Arsenal and Barca fans huh?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  (BTW I'm being Sarcastic)
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henry is epl player back then when the poll started in 2006 and cantona is ex-MU
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 8 2008, 03:12 PM)
okie, Arsene Wenger is good manager, I respect that fact that he do bought in alot of youngsters and train them become world class players. No doubt he spent less but he do make few mistakes in the transfer market too like SAF.

His United Nation team can be good but cannot become best, when 1, 2 season they win nothing, they will start looking elsewhere like Barca, Real or Milans for better future...then Wenger has to rebuild again by buying few more in, train and take another 2, 3 seasons to progress..bla bla bla and the same situations happened.

Arsenal is just a club to buy cheap unknown players, trained them become world class players...then the players themselves "betrayed" the club and demand transfer to big club

I wonder what will happen, IF, the 6+5 rules does implement, I wonder how's Wenger's United Nation team
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The 6+5 rule will never happen and even if does if will be homegrwon players not local players. There will too much a lot opposition from the EU
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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 8 2008, 04:08 PM)
The 6+5 rule will never happen and even if does if will be homegrwon players not local players. There will too much a lot opposition from the EU
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The 6 + 5 Rule Also Passed By A Poll laugh.gif

Most Of Them Vote For Agree , Just Few Disagree..
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Believe me it won't happen...
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I won't be the first to admit that Wenger is indeed a grandmaster of football and knows the game inside out like a true guru. His blend of attacking football and knack for spotting gems in the market is a plus in anyone's books. However, why you say he's the best manager of all time bewilders me (Oh wait you said our time... Within the last two-three decades?). I rate him as a manager, but certainly nowhere near good enough to be mentioned alongside the greats such as Clough and Shankly (or Ferguson for that matter). One of the reasons was his poor man management. When Gallas sulked against Birmingham, I as a manager would have removed him as club captain. A senior player throwing tantrums and doing what he did (stayed away from the peno box, kicked an ad board where senior citizens and kids stood, centre circle sulk) is a big no-no. Also he seems to think the world is against him with his conspiracy theory remarks. Another thing some of my Arsenal supporting friends seem to forget is that Fabregas was never home grown. Yes his potential was developed by Wenger, but he was a product of Barcelona's youth system (arguably the best in the world).

Wenger's a great manager, and his success with Arsenal is a testament to that. But in no way is he the best.
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the pool now looks more like who is the best manager of BPL rather than the world tongue.gif
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strongly agree on that...alot of lalang species of zergling over here...LoL

QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:36 PM)
good source but u must know Lowyat forum is full of MU fan,there is more better player and managers outside Britain but for them Ferguson and Ronaldo is the best in the world,i you dont believe just open new poll/thread

Example
If u open Best Manager Poll,SAF will get top,who Lippi??who Hiddink??

If u open Best Player Poll,CR will get top,who Kaka??who Messi??

If u open Best Ex-Player Poll,Cantona will get top,who Maradona??who Pele??
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post Jun 8 2008, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(booty @ Jun 8 2008, 04:15 PM)
like what i've mentioned previously, manyoo fanboys are like zerglings, there are just too many of em. most of them are prolly so-called manyoo fans who supports manyoo juz to keep up with the latest the "trend". they prolly cant name 20 players outside of EPL (or manyoo perhaps) cuz they know nuts about football.
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good point there laugh.gif
i also have many fren like that,support MU bcos many ppl support MU but when i ask did u know Pique,Jonathan Evans or Simpson,he acting like this hmm.gif ,they even dont know the player from his team,just know who play as 1st-11
that if i ask Pique,Jonathan Evans or Simpson?? if i ask about Poborsky or Kancheski they will say "Did they play for Russia" laugh.gif
Like those who claim they die hard Man U but doesn't even know who Karel Poborsky, Andrei Kanchelski, Brian McClair and Gary Pallister are
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Most United fans are fake and just jump on the bandwagon. United is like a trend and sooner or later trends go out of fashion.

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