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corez
post Jun 7 2008, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 7 2008, 09:10 PM)
Wenger built an entire team for less than what Ferguson spent on one player. He has built a squad capable of winning the league by forming a group of young and talented players for a very small amount of money. Name me a manager who could have done that?
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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 7 2008, 09:18 PM)
Did you even read my question? Ferguson has spent a crazy amount of money to improve his squad.
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Haish, I guess you weren't born before year 2000 or only start to follow Arsenal progress after their 49 unbeaten run.

When Ferguson won the EPL the first four times, he combined youth and good purchases with the like of Cantona and Giggs.

In the early years he bought unknown players cheaply like Big Dane and Baby Assassins.

BTW, did you lose a massive bet due to United? Looking at your post history you had some serious hatred towards Man Utd which exceeds the level of a hardcore Liverpool fans. tongue.gif
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post Jun 7 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Panda @ Jun 7 2008, 10:11 PM)
JM can't produce young players... but he can attractive many good players to the club.. no doubt about that...

In the past 10 years, SAF has produced so many young english talented players... like Nevilles, Butt, Scholes, Beckham and many other players...
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post Jun 7 2008, 10:34 PM

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I dont think we insulted Arsene's achievement. The question is the best manager and rightly it should be SAF. Even Jose managed to retaine the EPL trophy after winning it the first time.
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post Jun 7 2008, 10:45 PM

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I only saw 1 post . Donno if ppl has edited it.

Taking into account the unbeaten run (Thanks to RvN) it is still not enough to put AW as the best manager of our time.
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post Jun 8 2008, 09:46 AM

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Nobody mentioned that SAF has managed Aberdeen before?

When he did that he broke the top 2 which usually controlled by Celtic and Rangers. He won the Cup Winners Cup against REAL MADRID.

I think that shows Alex managing pedigree don't ya TS?
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post Jun 8 2008, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jun 8 2008, 09:50 AM)
TS should change the topic to "Arsene Wenger is the best manager of our time. Discuss"
then close the poll laugh.gif
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That will be a bitter pill to swallow.

One more thing to add. Sir Alex "man managing" power skill is like second to none. Imagine Beckham and Ronaldo being the most hated players after their respective World Cup.

He coax them to stay, protects from the media and they turned out one of their best performance in the following years. WOW!

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post Jun 8 2008, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 8 2008, 10:27 AM)
When you count in the title 'Sir' in front of his name. It says it all. Don't you think?
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Then TS will say that the Queen is a Man Utd Fan user posted image tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 11:35 AM

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Why dont we make a poll of who is the hard core Arsenal supporter?

I vote Disco tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 01:37 PM

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@ TS, SAF did not only manage Man Utd you know? He won stuff with Aberdeen too. Won a European trophy with them too.
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post Jun 8 2008, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 8 2008, 01:48 PM)
Did I ever said he didn't. The European trophy he won was yesterday's equivalent to today's UEFA Cup not the Champions League....
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Has Wenger won any European trophy at all? tongue.gif user posted image

I remember Arsene lost in EUFA cup. Like that Mc Clown is the same rank as Wenger since he lost the final EUFA too. user posted image
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post Jun 8 2008, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 8 2008, 01:55 PM)
A good manager is one who has enough strategic and tactical acumen to provide his players with a winning game plan, but can lift and motivate them when things aren't going their way. However, it is easy to confuse this type of manager with one who is with a club that has a blank chequebook. Any fool can buy expensive players and forge a few decent results in the short term. Sooner or later their shortcomings are always exposed.
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Hahaha, so you were saying that SAF won the Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen with a blank Checkbook? When he broke the two club of Celtic and Rangers is it with a blank checkbook?


Added on June 8, 2008, 1:59 pmTS is the hard core Arsenal fan. I give him that. smile.gif

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post Jun 8 2008, 02:40 PM

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TS is Arsene Wenger smile.gif

He is free at this moment since it is off season tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(munky @ Jun 8 2008, 03:02 PM)
Alex Ferguson - 10 EPL, 2 UCL
Arsene Wenger - 3 EPL + 49 Unbeated Run

source: wiki

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post Jun 8 2008, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:36 PM)
good source but u must know Lowyat forum is full of MU fan,there is more better player and managers outside Britain but for them Ferguson and Ronaldo is the best in the world,i you dont believe just open new poll/thread

Example
If u open Best Manager Poll,SAF will get top,who Lippi??who Hiddink??

If u open Best Player Poll,CR will get top,who Kaka??who Messi??

If u open Best Ex-Player Poll,Cantona will get top,who Maradona??who Pele??
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=341101&hl=Best

Henry got the most vote. I guess we can say this forum are filled with Arsenal and Barca fans huh? whistling.gif whistling.gif (BTW I'm being Sarcastic)
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post Jun 10 2008, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 8 2008, 01:55 PM)
A good manager is one who has enough strategic and tactical acumen to provide his players with a winning game plan, but can lift and motivate them when things aren't going their way. However, it is easy to confuse this type of manager with one who is with a club that has a blank chequebook. Any fool can buy expensive players and forge a few decent results in the short term. Sooner or later their shortcomings are always exposed.
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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 8 2008, 02:01 PM)
I wasn't referring to Ferguson, just saying what I think makes a good manager. Typical of United fans to think that the world revolves around them, arrogant gits....
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TS read back all your post. All reference are with SAF. Thats why we know you were saying SAF has the black checkbook.

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jun 9 2008, 07:30 PM)
but TS said Wenger is the best manager because he plays sexy football... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 9 2008, 08:23 PM)
I never said that, do you even read my posts or just pretend to? The amount of rubbish that comes out of your mouth is bemusing.
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TS, pls read back your post

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post Jun 11 2008, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(disco333 @ Jun 10 2008, 10:30 PM)
Everyone has their own opinion, there is point slating someone else because they disagree with your opinion.
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Everyone has their own opinion. Agreed.

Problem is you like to contradict your own opinion. First you said something then you said something else. I have highlighted all your contradicting posts on my previous post.
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post Jun 12 2008, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Jason_T @ Jun 12 2008, 09:06 AM)
and to me, there is no such thing as THE BEST MANAGER.
Everyone loses at least 1...BEST MANAGER should never lose  whistling.gif
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best /bɛst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[best] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective, superl. of good with better as compar. 1. of the highest quality, excellence, or standing: the best work; the best students.

What it mean is that given a group of managers such as the list, which one is of the highest quality, excellence, or standing.

Which means there are such thing as THE BEST MANAGER.

 

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