if before 2 months they already push & squeak, then after 2 months they'll fight brutally.. always observe them.. WW fights are not mild, it's very brutal sometimes.. in ur situation, the sapphire is more dominant then the agouti.. when u touch the agouti & it squeaks, it means it is scared.. separate them if u see them fighting brutally.. one symptom of brutal fighting is when they 'hiss' at each other while struggling.. also they draw blood sometimes.. but u have to be observant, cos some fights are silent (no squeaking at all, yet one is biting into another's flesh).. i've experienced watching silent fights before.. so u have to be alert at all times..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Jun 25 2008, 08:07 PM

I guess if they have signs of fighting, then shouldnt take risk anymore and seperate them. Else, when the fight turns serious then regret.

Pushing and squeaking sounds dangerous. They could have more brutal fights later.

About the tissues, in my opinion, the normal tissue that we have will disintegrate when it's wet and since my hamster likes to stuff it into it's mouth, it worried some might be left behind (in the mouth). So i give serviettes - harder to disintegrate but still soft.

Btw, I can deliver nezu's smoothies to Cyberjaya this Friday (27 June) so if anyone wants, pls pm me Might be another one next week also, then I'm on holiday. So yea..two more weeks to get it in Cyberjaya

I guess i will ask for an exchange with the pet shop since they don't like each other

Prestige can last quite long eh. It's been a month and my 2 syrians still leave me with an almost full packet. Divide the one pack to 3 months, one month only pay RM 8? So I think ok in a long run. Some more it's good for our hammies ma.

#UNDERGROUND

you should know that WW is solitary also.read first page.
they can tolerate living with siblings.

woah! for real?!
currently im using harry hamster, really gonna try prestige when the harry hamster finish

Well, they live with each other quite well in the pet shop, i saw them drinking and eating together.

After i took them back, they started to fight

And they are still small, i can't imagine how they fight when they turn into adult WW.

Well yeah. See, what people don't get is the worth in a long run. They just see "wah... RM 24. So expensive". But they can use that food for 3 months PLUS, depending on how many hamsters they have. In a long run, it is cheap and affordable. So why don't go get the best for your hammie?

@Underground: When relocated, hamsters often fight to establish dominance and also define territory. Petshop hammies don't fight because basically no space belong to them and there's simply so many that it's so stressing. When you bring them home, there's only the hammie and the other one. Plus good food also. Why don't chase the other hamster away so itself can have it all?

It doesn't make us happy but it makes a lot of sense.

This post has been edited by Jamien: Jun 25 2008, 08:59 PM

i still have half pack of prestige after using for 2 months.. well, i will need to restock my hamsters food asap before everything price rise up = =

oh ya, before i forget, wanna ask you guys that britter bunny only comes in 1 size right???　the 1kg one

ok ok thank you
i tot, harry hamster is the best one
dulu mase i beli hamster, i didnt really know about it

tu la kena research.
last time i used to feed living world food only.

Guys i rase mcm pelik jerh,

from what ive read on the internet,

WW hamster :

In the Wild

In the wild Dwarf Winter White Russian Hamsters live in colonies and resent intruders into the colony and will attack any other hamsters that wander into the colony territory.

They live in burrows within the grassy steppes and sleep during the day, waking only for short periods. They are nocturnal and awake at dusk, being active at night. Their sight is poor but their sense of smell and hearing are very acute and they rely heavily on these senses to recognise each other and their environment.

In Captivity

In captivity the Dwarf Winter White Russian Hamster is a sociable pet and will live with another of its own kind if they are introduced when young. However, an older hamster will resent the addition of another hamster and a fierce fight is likely to occur.

But only the Syrians are solitary

here is the information

In The Wild

Syrian HamsterIn the wild the Syrian Hamster lives alone and is fiercely territorial, attacking any intruders or other hamsters it may be confronted with during its travels.

They live in individual burrows a distance away from any other burrow of another hamster. They are nocturnal sleeping during the day (although they may wake for short periods) and awake at dusk becoming active at night. Their sight is poor but their senses of smell and hearing are very acute. During the night the Syrian Hamster will travel collecting food, returning to its burrow several times to empty the contents. In one night the Syrian may travel up to 8 miles in this way.

In Captivity

In captivity the Syrian Hamster's solitary instinct prevails and once mature it will not normally accept the company of another hamster. Although they live together as babies and are often seen caged together in pet shops or at the breeders, as the hamsters mature their solitary instinct develops. Syrian Hamsters will not, therefore, usually tolerate the company of another hamster once they reach approximately 6-10 weeks of age when fighting starts to occur. These fights may not be serious at first but as the hamster matures the frequency and severity of the fights increase. The fights most often take place during the night when the hamsters are most active and so often goes unobserved until serious injury or even death of one or both hamsters occurs. Therefore Syrian Hamsters should be housed separately once purchased in order to prevent injury - the golden rule is one hamster, one cage.



This is what i know since b4 i join LYN.
i think, u guys have been provided with wrong information by someone kot.
there must be misunderstanding with the Hamster living behavior

what do you mean actually?

I dunno much about WWs since I have very little experience with them. But what I do know is, there are always exceptions. One hammie will be disliked without reason.

Also, being put in a new area triggers fight. It only differs how fierce the fight is but it would definitely happen. They need to re-establish who is the dominant hammie. It happenes with robos, who can live in large communities. It must happen to WWs too.

@neshie: he means that WWs are social creatures and can ive together due to their communial instincts. I used to feed habitrail.

This post has been edited by Jamien: Jun 25 2008, 09:41 PM

omg you can comprehend what he said.
Is he talking about the WW's?

Cuz my english keng.

Yes. He's talking about WW. He's making a comparison between WW and syrian. The site says syrians are the only solitary hamsters. WWs can mix well with those of its kind when intro during young age. But experience teaches us that isn't always the case right?

I guess he is questioning the information given since my WW do fight although they're stated sociable.

it's true just rm8 @ month, but i got feed my hammies with fruits and vegies, so i think should be fine to them.. currently i'm thinking of to feed hammies with mealworms, is that really good to make hamsters chubby? and anyone knows where to get it?

Mealworms can get at any life fish shop. I feed to my hammies la. My robos didn't use to like it much though. But chris's robos do eat if I remember correctly. So depends individually.

Just make sure to gutload the mealies for at least 2 days before feeding them.