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post Sep 26 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 26 2012, 10:12 AM)
Online brokers all competitive rates. Who still uses call-in brokers and pay RM40? laugh.gif
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Mine online trade fees are 0.1% or RM8...I think the 'Malacca Securities' offered as low as 0.001% shakehead.gif .
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post Sep 26 2012, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 26 2012, 09:35 AM)
Direct investments, dividend yield alone can get 5-8% p.a. nod.gif

But, without sufficient capital to achieve adequate diversification (assuming one is not a very good stock picker to consistently pick the few winners), UT is the way to go for many of us. Like for me, as long as my portfolio as a whole matches EPF returns, I'm happy. wink.gif
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Well, AmAsia Pac REITs already paid me about 6% yield and on top of that my capital has appreciated about 20%. My other fund also returned about 8-10% every year since i started few years back so I'm quite happy with them.

My KLSE stocks didn't do too well, make some here lose some there though I still make some puny return. In fact most of my stock returns are from dividends... i guess stock picking is not for everyone smile.gif And I'll never trust any of those "insider news" anymore, once i nearly lose my pants off LOL

I guess it all boils down to how we treat certain investments. For me, UT is my long term investment and stocks are more liquid and short term.

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post Sep 27 2012, 10:31 AM

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China is at 3 year low... going to be below SSE 2,000 points soon. Anyone targeting? drool.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:31 AM)
China is at 3 year low... going to be below SSE 2,000 points soon. Anyone targeting?  drool.gif
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Expect stiff resistance at 2,000 points tongue.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 25 2012, 02:44 PM)
Yessir! nod.gif

So, what's ur view on Asia Ex-Japan small/mid caps? blush.gif
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Good growth for the future.. can try Aberdeen Asian Smaller Companies Fund .. 3 yr +50.3% vs +4.6% benchmark. flex.gif .I am not vested though...


Added on September 27, 2012, 10:36 am
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM)
Expect stiff resistance at 2,000 points tongue.gif
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Well it is now 2004 points, couple more points to go, then the next support will be1600, at all time low. brows.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Sep 27 2012, 10:36 AM
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM)
Good growth for the future.. can try Aberdeen Asian Smaller Companies Fund .. 3 yr +50.3% vs +4.6% benchmark.  flex.gif .I am not vested though...


Added on September 27, 2012, 10:36 am

Well it is now 2004 points, couple more points to go, then the next support will be1600, at all time low.  brows.gif
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I bought into this 2 days ago blush.gif
http://hwangim.com/project/hwang/media/201.../175228-451.pdf

3 years +77.19%

Hope I'm not getting in at the top of the cliff sweat.gif


Added on September 27, 2012, 10:38 am
QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM)

Added on September 27, 2012, 10:36 am

Well it is now 2004 points, couple more points to go, then the next support will be1600, at all time low.  brows.gif
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Sifu wongmunkeong gonna be trigger-itchy when that happens brows.gif

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post Sep 27 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 27 2012, 10:37 AM)
I bought into this 2 days ago blush.gif
http://hwangim.com/project/hwang/media/201.../175228-451.pdf

3 years +77.19%

Hope I'm not getting in at the top of the cliff sweat.gif

Sifu wongmunkeong gonna be trigger-itchy when that happens brows.gif
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Looks good, but too concentrated in Malaysia and Singapore (>60%) which is not diversified enough for me. Both these countries have been bucking the trend...

BTW Singapore is confirmed to have technical recession in 2Q 2012 according to monetary authority of SG yesterday report. sweat.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:42 AM)
Looks good, but too concentrated in Malaysia and Singapore (>60%) which is not diversified enough for me. Both these countries have been bucking the trend...

BTW Singapore is confirmed to have technical recession in 2Q 2012 according to monetary authority of SG yesterday report.  sweat.gif
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my current equity breakdown:

60% Asia Ex-Japan+GEM
40% global (overweight US + Europe + Japan)

within the 60%:
50% GEM (mainly large caps)
25% Asia Ex-Japan small-mid caps (but current allocation is overweight southeast Asian)
25% Asia Pac REITs

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 27 2012, 10:46 AM
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 27 2012, 10:45 AM)
my current equity breakdown:

60% Asia Ex-Japan+GEM
40% global (overweight US + Europe + Japan)

within the 60%:
50% GEM (mainly large caps)
25% Asia Ex-Japan small-mid caps (but current allocation is overweight southeast Asian)
25% Asia Pac REITs
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Quite good distribution. I am more Asia skewed. Global so far I see the returns not so exiting.. yawn.gif

20% Malaysia (UT bought long time ago...)
50% Asia ex. Japan (UT)
15% US (via ETF)
15% China (UT)

Hehehe.. tongue.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Sep 27 2012, 10:56 AM
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:54 AM)
Quite good distribution. I am more Asia skewed. Global so far I see the returns not so exiting..  yawn.gif

20% Malaysia (UT bought long time ago...)
50% Asia ex. Japan (UT)
15% US (via ETF)
15% China (UT)

Hehehe.. tongue.gif
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No wonder Shanghai getting close to break 2,000 level got u excited laugh.gif

Global funds at 40% is as downside protection...those are mainly high yield and big name large caps...

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 27 2012, 10:58 AM
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 27 2012, 10:56 AM)
No wonder Shanghai getting close to break 2,000 level got u excited laugh.gif
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For the china fund I bought at SSE 1,600, then average up at SSE 2,200, so far still positive lah...plan to average down again at SSE 1,900-1999. rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Sep 27 2012, 10:59 AM
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post Sep 27 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 10:58 AM)
For the china fund I bought at SSE 1,600, then average up at SSE 2,200, so far still positive lah...plan to average down again at SSE 1,900-1999.  rclxms.gif
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SSE climbing up again (lunch time today) sad.gif
Arrgh.. dagnabit get down (and boogie)
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post Sep 27 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 27 2012, 01:39 PM)
SSE climbing up again (lunch time today) sad.gif
Arrgh.. dagnabit get down (and boogie)
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I read a quote yesterday, it sounds something like this...

"History have proven that people who stay invested earn XX times more than people who sit out and wait for a correction"

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post Sep 27 2012, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 27 2012, 01:43 PM)
I read a quote yesterday, it sounds something like this...

"History have proven that people who stay invested earn XX times more than people who sit out and wait for a correction"

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heheh - i AM invested already.. just have extras built-up / reallocate (a couple of lump sums) after liquidating an asset tongue.gif

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 27 2012, 01:48 PM
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post Sep 28 2012, 10:43 AM

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MarketWatch feature on the emerging economies of SEA:

The New Tigers - Indonesia and the Philippines
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post Sep 28 2012, 11:01 AM

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Any sifu out there can advise how to buy mutual funds in Singapore, without having to go over the causeway? I am a Malaysian.
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post Sep 28 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Dino168 @ Sep 28 2012, 11:01 AM)
Any sifu out there can advise how to buy mutual funds in Singapore, without having to go over the causeway?  I am a Malaysian.
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Go visit Fundsupermart SG, POEMS SG and Dollardex SG, however dollardex need you to have Singapore account. Transaction via TT, no need to step into singapore. laugh.gif


Added on September 28, 2012, 2:16 pm
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 28 2012, 10:43 AM)
MarketWatch feature on the emerging economies of SEA:

The New Tigers - Indonesia and the Philippines
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Indonesia is upcoming tiger .. but very volatile market, high inflation and unstable currency. Land prices here has gone 3x since 5 years ago... doh.gif

P/s since when you change to hello kitty avatar.. unbecoming fo you leh... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Sep 28 2012, 02:17 PM
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post Sep 28 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 28 2012, 02:14 PM)

Added on September 28, 2012, 2:16 pm

Indonesia is upcoming tiger .. but very volatile market, high inflation and unstable currency. Land prices here has gone 3x since 5 years ago... doh.gif

P/s since when you change to hello kitty avatar.. unbecoming fo you leh... laugh.gif
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volatile = higher capital gain opportunity = invest sparingly

changed back...Kitty too kawaii already to put as LYN avatar laugh.gif
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post Sep 30 2012, 09:22 PM

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What do you all think on AMB DIVIDEND TRUST FUND... I do have interest to invest using EPF money. Any suggestion? Thanks.
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post Oct 1 2012, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Sep 30 2012, 09:22 PM)
What do you all think on AMB DIVIDEND TRUST FUND... I do have interest to invest using EPF money. Any suggestion? Thanks.
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Do consider Hwang Select Dividend Fund too.

- Bigger fund size ==> lower Management Expenses Ratio

FYI, AMB Dividend Trust Fund management is sub-ed by AMB to Hwang Investment Management Berhad...check it's prospectus and reports. icon_rolleyes.gif

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