QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2012, 01:29 PM)
And I prefer AP ex. Japan...
Now looking at Templeton Frontier Markets Fund.. looks good.
The EM of EM...
Vietnam, Laos, Africa etc Now looking at Templeton Frontier Markets Fund.. looks good.
Fund Investment Corner v2, A to Z about Fund
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Sep 24 2012, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 24 2012, 01:31 PM) Biggest holding in Nigeria. Africa got GDP growth of 8%-15% now... This post has been edited by gark: Sep 24 2012, 01:35 PM |
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Sep 24 2012, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2012, 01:33 PM) Biggest holding in Nigeria. GEM pun dah susah for us laymen investors to research and study...FM...lagi susah...little news and transparency Africa got GDP growth of 8%-15% now... |
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Sep 24 2012, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 24 2012, 01:36 PM) GEM pun dah susah for us laymen investors to research and study...FM...lagi susah...little news and transparency That's why we engage fund manager loh... especially this kind of country...Nigeria GDP growth is very high now.. is it because of all the 'scam' money earnings? This post has been edited by gark: Sep 24 2012, 01:42 PM |
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[quote=gark,Sep 24 2012, 01:23 PM]
http://www.hsbc.com.my/1/PA_ES_Content_Mgm...e_bric_hsbc.pdf http://www.assetmanagement.hsbc.com/uk/att...bric_equity.pdf http://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/ove...ceId=0P0000RRPS It really good infomation for me. Thank you. ...And what do you think about AmAsia Pacific Reit? This post has been edited by jasmine2001: Sep 24 2012, 02:56 PM |
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Sep 24 2012, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(jasmine2001 @ Sep 24 2012, 02:53 PM) Wa... must charge 'con'-sultant fees already.. hehe anyway here it goes...1. REIT fund...ho hum... 2. 70% in reit, 30% in FD 3. CUrrent running yield is 4.5% 3. 1 year 20.13% vs benchmark 16.39% 4. 1 month 0.34% vs benchmark 2.77% Results.. 1. Still a young fund, less than 1 year performance 2. Charges 1.5% for 70% in REIT and 30% in FD - 3. Running yield of 4.5% (before minus 1.5% fees) - 4. Ever thought of purchasing your own REIT? This post has been edited by gark: Sep 24 2012, 05:53 PM |
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Sep 24 2012, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2012, 05:11 PM) ...5. Invest in Ap ex Jpn REIT but use AP + Jpn REIT index benchmark... oh! you are so kind, and pro.Results.. 3. Running yield of 4.5% (before minus 1.5% fees) - 4. Ever thought of purchasing your own REIT? I never notice it " + Jpn REIT index benchmark",and yield =4.5%-1.5%=3%. So, for the AmAdvantage Bric, I can 1)top up---->so bad! 2)switch to AmAPRF---->not good. 3)redemp---->cut lost? |
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Sep 24 2012, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(jasmine2001 @ Sep 24 2012, 05:44 PM) oh! you are so kind, and pro. Well it depends on you, and your current asset allocation and only you can see the whole picture, so you must decide for yourself. Sorry can't help you there... I never notice it " + Jpn REIT index benchmark",and yield =4.5%-1.5%=3%.  So, for the AmAdvantage Bric, I can 1)top up---->so bad! 2)switch to AmAPRF---->not good. 3)redemp---->cut lost? Remember to do homework the next time you purchase something other wise you might get stuck with in long term... The low yield in the REIT fund is due to the 30% in FD... the benchmark and the fund is the same which is AP + Japan, my mistake... This post has been edited by gark: Sep 24 2012, 05:53 PM |
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i failed to take action runaway from equity before Budget 2013.
but never mind, it will rebound (just to comfort myself). |
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Sep 24 2012, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2012, 05:11 PM) Wa... must charge 'con'-sultant fees already.. hehe anyway here it goes... Where u got the yield data? 1. REIT fund...ho hum... 2. 70% in reit, 30% in FD 3. CUrrent running yield is 4.5% 3. 1 year 20.13% vs benchmark 16.39% 4. 1 month 0.34% vs benchmark 2.77% Results.. 1. Still a young fund, less than 1 year performance 2. Charges 1.5% for 70% in REIT and 30% in FD - 3. Running yield of 4.5% (before minus 1.5% fees) - 4. Ever thought of purchasing your own REIT? One reason I can think of is that valuation of REITs have been chased up too high by the market in search of yield in this zero interest environment. Added on September 24, 2012, 8:48 pm QUOTE(hafiez @ Sep 24 2012, 06:47 PM) i failed to take action runaway from equity before Budget 2013. I actually ALMOST clicked the "Buy" button today morning when KLCI dropped below 1610...to see it bounce back after lunchtime but never mind, it will rebound (just to comfort myself). This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 24 2012, 08:48 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 24 2012, 08:47 PM) Where u got the yield data? tak habis habis tangan gatalnee One reason I can think of is that valuation of REITs have been chased up too high by the market in search of yield in this zero interest environment. Added on September 24, 2012, 8:48 pm I actually ALMOST clicked the "Buy" button today morning when KLCI dropped below 1610...to see it bounce back after lunchtime |
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Sep 24 2012, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 24 2012, 08:56 PM) I also tired of waiting. We need to be discipline and not simply shoot now. I am currently looking at Greater China UT. Still can decide on which fund is the right one. With the current Central Bank intervention it make timing more difficult. Think pulling the trigger for initial load up than wait and see before topping up again. Anybody have good suggestion/experience with Greater China UT? |
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Sep 25 2012, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(aronteh @ Sep 24 2012, 10:19 PM) I also tired of waiting. those invest in higher price suffering now....... i think still can wait..... china market still slowing down more.We need to be discipline and not simply shoot now. I am currently looking at Greater China UT. Still can decide on which fund is the right one. With the current Central Bank intervention it make timing more difficult. Think pulling the trigger for initial load up than wait and see before topping up again. Anybody have good suggestion/experience with Greater China UT? ya, better sikit sikit. whenever u top up, try to make sure ur cost per unit similar or cheaper than market price. or keep ur buying price not exceed the SC from market price. meaning ur buying price after deduct the SC shud be similar or cheaper than market price, if u top up regularly. (this method not adviseble if u opt for DDI) if u maintain this, u can cut lost the money with less losses. cost per unit = amount u pay include SC/units. maybe u wont get the exact price, but u can get the nearest. do some paper buying, downtrend and uptrend and flacutate scenario. u will get some clear picture. |
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Sep 25 2012, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(aronteh @ Sep 24 2012, 10:19 PM) I am currently looking at Greater China UT. Still can decide on which fund is the right one. For greater china, I am currently vested in First State Regional China Fund.. Anybody have good suggestion/experience with Greater China UT? Annualized performance... 5 year -0.9% vs -4.8% benchmark 3 year +3.1% vs -2.2% benchmark 1 year - 4.3% vs -9.6% benchmark Added on September 25, 2012, 10:04 am QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 24 2012, 08:47 PM) Where u got the yield data? The yield data is in the factsheet comments...by the 'fun'-managerOne reason I can think of is that valuation of REITs have been chased up too high by the market in search of yield in this zero interest environment. Even though the REIT has been chased too high, you can still find some decent 6%-7% in Malaysia and Singapore. For the fund to run 4.5% yield is due to dilution from the FD, and most probably the fund manager is chasing hot REIT's (like the recent IGB REIT, yield is at 4.5% also This post has been edited by gark: Sep 25 2012, 10:04 AM |
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Sep 25 2012, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 25 2012, 10:01 AM) Added on September 25, 2012, 10:04 am The yield data is in the factsheet comments...by the 'fun'-manager Even though the REIT has been chased too high, you can still find some decent 6%-7% in Malaysia and Singapore. For the fund to run 4.5% yield is due to dilution from the FD, and most probably the fund manager is chasing hot REIT's (like the recent IGB REIT, yield is at 4.5% also Reasonable la...30% liquidity to take advantage of price weakness and new issues REIT funds still ok for small investors like me who have small capital...hard to achieve adequate diversification if I buy REITs myself |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 25 2012, 12:19 PM) Ok got it...at the factsheet. Agree! Small investor like us.. but unit trust REITs to diversify in REITs..Reasonable la...30% liquidity to take advantage of price weakness and new issues REIT funds still ok for small investors like me who have small capital...hard to achieve adequate diversification if I buy REITs myself |
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Sep 25 2012, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 25 2012, 11:19 AM) Ok got it...at the factsheet. But why pay the fund manager 1.5% to manage your REIT, that is like 30% of the REIT dividend already? REIT it self is a managed fund, so you are paying a manager to manage a bunch of managers managing your investment property? Reasonable la...30% liquidity to take advantage of price weakness and new issues REIT funds still ok for small investors like me who have small capital...hard to achieve adequate diversification if I buy REITs myself If you can get RM3k, you can start to buy REIT directly already wor... and get higher yield than the fund. This post has been edited by gark: Sep 25 2012, 11:37 AM |
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