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post Jul 16 2012, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 16 2012, 05:45 PM)
Collecting.... 1st batch 1,800, 2nd batch at 2,300, 3rd batch at 2,200... more to collect soon as long as SSI <2,500. brows.gif BTW china mega banks are selling now at PE 6-8 only with DY of 4-5%... this is not small banks, but banks with assets >5 billion USD.  rclxms.gif Even consumer companies, coal, oil etc is about PE 8-10.  drool.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(aronteh @ Jul 16 2012, 06:02 PM)
Have been very patient with the market since last year.  yawn.gif Holding all ammo in  80% on Bonds now, 6% Cash and 4% Reits. Waiting for the right timing.
Markets is getting very exciting lately. Looking for opportunity of a life time here. drool.gif

With all the Sifu combine wisdoms here, hopefully we can time it correctly rclxm9.gif
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Holding in which bond fund bro? Mind to share with us?

Most my ammo already into AmDynamic, if there is a fire sale, I dont htink I will cash out as well. Now accumulating ammo again.. gawds know how long.. shxt!
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post Jul 16 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 06:16 PM)
u buying china funds or GEM funds hmm.gif
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Pure China fund, which invest in H Shares & Red chips with a small amount of A shares only.

I also have a separate pacific ex Japan fund as well...
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post Jul 16 2012, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 06:43 PM)
Holding in which bond fund bro? Mind to share with us?

Most my ammo already into AmDynamic, if there is a fire sale, I dont htink I will cash out as well. Now accumulating ammo again.. gawds know how long.. shxt!
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Added on July 16, 2012, 7:02 pm
QUOTE(gark @ Jul 16 2012, 06:58 PM)
Pure China fund, which invest in H Shares & Red chips with a small amount of A shares only.

I also have a separate pacific ex Japan fund as well...
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No GEM fund? U not positive on Russia, Brazil, India and the rest of the GEM markets? unsure.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jul 16 2012, 07:02 PM
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 07:59 PM)
What about your FDs brows.gif
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FD very little only bro.. just enough for downpayment for small car if I buy one la. I plan to shift my FD into my home loan account la, the BLR-2.2% is biting me la ever since I took a chunk of it out to buy bond fund last week. But need to wait till Oct just can take out.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 07:02 PM)
FD very little only bro.. just enough for downpayment for small car if I buy one la. I plan to shift my FD into my home loan account la, the BLR-2.2% is biting me la ever since I took a chunk of it out to buy bond fund last week. But need to wait till Oct just can take out.
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Good enough to show hand on GEM/China fund brows.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 08:05 PM)
Good enough to show hand on GEM/China fund brows.gif
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Not yet la bro.. I am more of local exposure funds at the moment. Got la some of my invested funds are foreign exposure. If really fire sale, I will consider. Remember to inform me about the sale ya..

At the moment, just keeping ammo and top up on 2 specific funds which I am doing DDI. Just want to know the outcome of DD1 vs lumpsum vs Value investing (am I saying the term right?!!)


Added on July 16, 2012, 7:09 pmI mean accumulate ammo... dry now! will miss fire sale opportunity if it comes soon.

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post Jul 16 2012, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 06:43 PM)
Holding in which bond fund bro? Mind to share with us?

Most my ammo already into AmDynamic, if there is a fire sale, I dont htink I will cash out as well. Now accumulating ammo again.. gawds know how long.. shxt!
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AmDynamic my anchor fund, due to 1% exit charge this will be reserve ammo. AmBond and AmBond Islam ever ready amno.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 07:08 PM)
Not yet la bro.. I am more of local exposure funds at the moment. Got la some of my invested funds are foreign exposure. If really fire sale, I will consider. Remember to inform me about the sale ya..

At the moment, just keeping ammo and top up on 2 specific funds which I am doing DDI. Just want to know the outcome of DD1 vs lumpsum vs Value investing (am I saying the term right?!!)
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Value Investing means, buy when u think is cheap.

Value Averaging means, e.g. u want your Fund ABC holding to go up RM100 a month, so if it went +RM10 during past month, u will top up RM90. If it went -RM20 during past month, u will top up RM120.

Which one u mean? unsure.gif

Just read Bloomberg/MarketWatch every day...when there's gloomy news and the indexes are all deep red and close to multi-year lows...masuk la tunggu apa lagi ph34r.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 08:12 PM)
Value Investing means, buy when u think is cheap.

Value Averaging means, e.g. u want your Fund ABC holding to go up RM100 a month, so if it went +RM10 during past month, u will top up RM90. If it went -RM20 during past month, u will top up RM120.

Which one u mean? unsure.gif

Just read Bloomberg/MarketWatch every day...when there's gloomy news and the indexes are all deep red and close to multi-year lows...masuk la tunggu apa lagi ph34r.gif
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Ah.. I am doing Value Investing. Haha.. Thanks!

Doing value investing only comodities fund Energy and Gold till I scared and tired bro. Keep on falling like catching the falling knives... I hope I can see the light in the tunnel la. Dont make me do value investing on these funds for so long la.. I need keep ammo for other funds value investing right? Also for fire sale time!!!

Ya.. every night, without a fail I will go into bloomberg app on my iPad. just to see some headlines and markets around the world.
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 07:20 PM)
Ah.. I am doing Value Investing. Haha.. Thanks!

Doing value investing only comodities fund Energy and Gold till I scared and tired bro. Keep on falling like catching the falling knives... I hope I can see the light in the tunnel la. Dont make me do value investing on these funds for so long la.. I need keep ammo for other funds value investing right? Also for fire sale time!!!

Ya.. every night, without a fail I will go into bloomberg app on my iPad. just to see some headlines and markets around the world.
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I have been doing cost averaging on GOLD from about 1760 to 1555 sweat.gif , understand how you feel.
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:28 PM

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Lucky me, I've never liked Gold laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 08:28 PM)
Lucky me, I've never liked Gold laugh.gif
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Bro.. we are looking at long term. tongue.gif Just making myself feel better.. haha
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 07:31 PM)
Bro.. we are looking at long term. tongue.gif Just making myself feel better.. haha
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Why not go Genneva then...2-3% PER MONTH hibah yo rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 08:33 PM)
Why not go Genneva then...2-3% PER MONTH hibah yo rolleyes.gif
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To me, I think Genneva is a SCAM!

I only believe with well established intuitions la, like the banks. And now Fundsupermart, seems ok as they are OSK right?
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 07:35 PM)
To me, I think Genneva is a SCAM!

I only believe with well established intuitions la, like the banks. And now Fundsupermart, seems ok as they are OSK right?
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Should be ok, I checked OSK Holdings Berhad website, iFAST Capital DOES appear under their corporate structure as one of the associated company (phew!) tongue.gif


Added on July 16, 2012, 7:42 pmhttp://www.osk.com.my/oskv2/UserFiles/OSKH%20Group%20Corporate%20Structure%20(2012.05.11).pdf

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post Jul 16 2012, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 07:33 PM)
Why not go Genneva then...2-3% PER MONTH hibah yo rolleyes.gif
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Don't touch Bro. I got burn by a few Gold companies. cry.gif mad.gif One after another promising 3% and above per month.
There are no special formula, just ponzi scheme. shakehead.gif You are paid with your own money, by buying GOLD markup >30% rclxub.gif
If will continue to work as long as more investor come in and Gold price keep increasing.

Don't want to name the companies. But you can find out from BNM list.


Added on July 16, 2012, 8:06 pm
QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 07:31 PM)
Bro.. we are looking at long term. tongue.gif Just making myself feel better.. haha
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Gold for me is for long term inflation protection. My view is 10 to 15 years.

This post has been edited by aronteh: Jul 16 2012, 08:06 PM
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:49 PM

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To me.. Any investment other than stocks, gold, UT and properties that promise of giving anything higher than FD, around 4 to 8%, I will study and understand first before putting my hard earn money into them. Anything the promise 9% and above, I will try to avoid.. But sure study kaw kaw la if it is worth going into or not.
9% and above for other than the said investment above, I will definitely avoid. This is just my opinion... Anybody can comment?
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 06:43 PM)
Holding in which bond fund bro? Mind to share with us?

Most my ammo already into AmDynamic, if there is a fire sale, I dont htink I will cash out as well. Now accumulating ammo again.. gawds know how long.. shxt!
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Same here. Don't think I will switch out from AmDynamic. But who knows..

I'm more interested in what Aronteh is planning to buy. Equity? Emerging Market?
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:00 PM

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Ya.. Aaronteh, how much you got burned in gold? 4 pr 5 or 6 figure?

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