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post Apr 18 2012, 02:20 PM

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Hi,

Went to the bank earlier, wanting to request for a statement on my fund which had paid out the distributions last month. They told me that the statements are only issued every 6 months (eg: June and December).

Is it the case for everyone of you who invested through banks? This is new for me, so just asking around. Thanks!
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post Apr 18 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 18 2012, 05:13 PM)
EON Bank can print statement anytime...just tell them the period e.g. from Jan-12 to Mar-12 u wanna print, within seconds can print.

Which bank u talking about? unsure.gif
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Maybank and OCBC bank. Both told me the same thing.

Any clue of the both stated?
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post Apr 18 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 18 2012, 05:25 PM)
no clue other than
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2 - M.A.L.A.S. tongue.gif
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I guess it's normal, as PB also send the statement twice every year. Thanks anyway.
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post Apr 20 2012, 10:53 AM

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Speaking of AmDynamic, assume I already hold for around 3 years, and will realize a small profit upon selling, is it wise to sell it and use the money to buy equity fund (near future, which is after GE). I'm actually confused how the transfee fee works. Does it apply when I want to sell my fund and reallocate all the money to another equity fund?
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post Apr 20 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 20 2012, 10:58 AM)
If you're looking higher return, obviously equity fund will offer higher return. You cannot compare it with a bond fund.

What AmDynamic can offer based on the past 3 years is a decent moderate return.
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Alright. Noted. So as long as it still yields a profit upon selling, it's wise to switch for higher return alternative funds.

How does the whole transfee fee system btw?


Added on April 20, 2012, 11:09 am
QUOTE(Kitty Zhang @ Apr 20 2012, 11:04 AM)
People should stop thinking of AmDynamic Bond as a fail-safe fund, some volatility is expected for a long duration bond fund.
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That's right. A lot of people has that wrong thinking.

If they want a safer fund, they should choose a shorter duration saving bond fund.

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post Apr 20 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Kitty Zhang @ Apr 20 2012, 11:09 AM)
1% on your sale proceeds

e.g. u sell RM1,000 worth of AmDynamic Bond, u only get RM1,000 - 1% = RM990
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Are you referring to the transfee fee?

If yes; so transfee and exit fee is actually the same thing? My bad then.
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post Apr 20 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Kitty Zhang @ Apr 20 2012, 11:13 AM)
Transfer fee is when u want to transfer e.g. from yourself to your wife account

Switching fee is when u want to switch from 1 fund to another

AmDynamic Bond 1% is the exit fee
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So if I want to switch from Fund A (which have a 1% switching fee). By switching, Fund A is deemed sold (realizing all the profits) right? And only getting back 99% of the total investment value?
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post Apr 22 2012, 10:42 AM

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Thanks for the explanations, Wong and Transit.

As mentioned by Transit, a transfer from bond fund will subject to 0.25% or RM50 charges. So back to the original question, by transferring to another type of fund, is the original fund is deemed sold (capital + profit yield [if any]). And which means after deducting the charges, your remaining investment will be transfer to the other fund?

That's my understand of transferring.
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post Apr 23 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Apr 23 2012, 12:14 AM)
ur understanding is  SWITCHING.

TRANSFER meaning transfer the owner of acc.

if u hv Fund A, u r the owner for the acc Fund A. later if u decide to give this acc to other, let say to ur spouse. the Fund A acc will transfer to ur spouse name and u NO more hv any right to Fund A acc.
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Alright. My bad for using the word 'transfer'.

By SWITCHING to other fund, after deducting the necessary charges, that means your investment in the initial fund is deemed sold, alongside with the profits is SWITCH to the other fund?
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post May 28 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 28 2012, 12:50 AM)
Yea, OSK-UOB funds switching fee is RM25 per switch nod.gif

It's pretty obvious...when Asia Ex-Japan outperformed, so will KidSave, though not by much as their overseas allocation rarely even exceed 20%

IMHO, if u already have significant exposure to Asia Ex-Japan thru other funds, buy Hwang. If you don't, buy KidSave. Just my 2 sen worth icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi Pink,

What if for people (in my case) that would like to start investing in their first equity fund? I kinda prefer fund that invest more in the Asia market though. KidSave or Hwang, which would be more suitable for me (in your POV).
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post May 31 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 30 2012, 01:26 PM)
For your reference, every month I put RM500+/- into FSM, RM200-300 would go into equity and/or bond funds, with the balance in money market funds. When I see an "opportunity" e.g. big slump in market, I will switch into equity from money market. bruce.gif
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Pink, as I read from your old post. You been investing in Hwang for awhile right? Any reason why you said KidsSave and not Hwang in your earlier reply?

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post May 31 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 31 2012, 09:40 AM)
My favourite Hwang fund is Hwang Select Income Fund, which invests in MAINLY in Malaysian assets, asset allocation 70% fixed income 30% equities. Last time bought thru EON Bank, have not been topping up since the Customer Service officer of my nearest branch resigned when Hong Leong took over. It's not available thru FSM, yet. doh.gif

My earlier reply was about equity funds if I'm not mistaken. hmm.gif

Hwang Select Opportunity is not bad too...invests mainly in Malaysian equities but with flexibility to invest up to 30% in foreign equities. icon_idea.gif
And it's already available thru FSM rclxms.gif

Hwang Select Balanced Fund is a pure 100% Malaysian assets fund...whereas KidSave Trust have flexibility to diversify up to 30% in Asia Ex-Japan assets. For a starter investor who do not have many funds in their portfolio yet, I'd recommend KidSave Trust. icon_rolleyes.gif
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You're said so because KidSave investment is expose to other Asia assets is it?

I'm looking at both Select Opportunity and KidSave now. One is balanced fund; the other is equity fund. Will see how the Malaysia markets show after the GE before I decide to invest Hwang or KidSave.
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post May 31 2012, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 31 2012, 04:57 PM)
Both has similar geographical allocation i.e. about 70% in MYR assets 30% in foreign assets, the only difference being SOF = Equity Fund whereas KidSave = Balanced

I'd suggest invest in BOTH Hwang SOF & AmDynamic Bond...both winners in their respective fund categories icon_idea.gif
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I do have investment in AmDynamic as a matter of fact smile.gif

Well, hopefully the GE is soon. No GE, no equity investment.
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post May 31 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 31 2012, 06:58 PM)
U and me think alike. But I'm planning to start on the month of GE itself, then over the course of 1 year after GE do monthly DCA icon_idea.gif
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Like how Mr. Wong does his investment too.

As I know, you have AmDynamic, Hwang Select Income Fund etc. do you have Hwang SOF?
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post May 31 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 31 2012, 07:27 PM)
Told ya, not yet. Like u, waiting for GE to come and pass laugh.gif

Also got OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond Fund icon_idea.gif
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We shall discuss the price when GE comes then smile.gif

Although monthly DCA, still should make sure the price is right.
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post Jun 2 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 1 2012, 08:28 PM)
laugh.gif "cheaper, good!" <in auntie voice>
(suckers playing into the "price" instead of value)
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I don't think I follow. Care to explain it in a more 'understanding' way? sad.gif
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post Jun 5 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jun 5 2012, 06:52 PM)
well, actually there's nothing wrong with your allocation. As always, do understand the risks and be comfortable with what you are investing in. that's the key. One man's meat is another man's poison

* i'm like you, i'm comfortable with Local based funds
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My advice would be to take it one step as a time. Dont pool all your money into the funds mentioned all together.

But of course if you think you have done enough homework and comfortable, then by all means go ahead. As quoted said, there is nothing wrong with your allocation. It's all a matter of preference smile.gif
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post Jul 15 2012, 10:02 AM

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I have been keep an eye on some Malaysia equity fund, and Kenanga Growth Fund is definitely in it.

What do you all think about the unit price now? Low/High? They just had a unit split months back, so definitely much cheaper. Why the split? To attract new buyer?

Worth the buy?

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post Jul 15 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 15 2012, 10:45 AM)
The question of "worth buy or not?" can only be answered by reference to the valuation of its underlying stockholding, pricing of a UT fund per se can NEVER tell u whether it is "cheap" or not. Before and after split makes no difference at all, splits serve nothing but marketing/psychological purposes.
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Exactly, Pink. Your second half of the statement is like what I just said smile.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 06:43 PM)
Holding in which bond fund bro? Mind to share with us?

Most my ammo already into AmDynamic, if there is a fire sale, I dont htink I will cash out as well. Now accumulating ammo again.. gawds know how long.. shxt!
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Same here. Don't think I will switch out from AmDynamic. But who knows..

I'm more interested in what Aronteh is planning to buy. Equity? Emerging Market?

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