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aronteh
post Jul 16 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 09:00 PM)
Ya.. Aaronteh, how much you got burned in gold? 4 pr 5 or 6 figure?
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7 figures. doh.gif Police reports have also been made many times. So far recover only about 15% cry.gif
That my experience to share. Make sure it is regulated or else you better understand how the whole business work in and out.
Don't be overcome by greed. This is how our emotion is being play.


Added on July 16, 2012, 10:04 pm
QUOTE(TakoC @ Jul 16 2012, 08:52 PM)
Same here. Don't think I will switch out from AmDynamic. But who knows..

I'm more interested in what Aronteh is planning to buy. Equity? Emerging Market?
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Actually, I am exploring Emerging Market now. brows.gif I feel our local market valuation is high now. blush.gif Just my 2 cents opinion.
Will do some portfolio rebalance soon. icon_idea.gif


Added on July 16, 2012, 10:17 pmIn the weekend edition of The Business Times, 30 June - 1 July 2012:

"I am a proven liar. Don't believe anything I say," said Samuel Israel. He is the hedge fund manager convicted of running a US$450million Ponzi scheme who faked his own suicide in 2008 to avoid his prison sentence before turning himself in after a worldwide manhunt.

When asked what can an investor do to avoid being conned, he said, "Seek as much transparency as possible. If they do not understand exactly how a manager is making money, do not invest. If there is a secret process that cannot be explained, run."

Investors are sometimes too busy looking for profits to notice where the truth ends and the deception begins.

Quote I read from another Investment Blog.

This post has been edited by aronteh: Jul 16 2012, 10:17 PM
SUSDavid83
post Jul 16 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 07:39 PM)
Should be ok, I checked OSK Holdings Berhad website, iFAST Capital DOES appear under their corporate structure as one of the associated company (phew!) tongue.gif


Added on July 16, 2012, 7:42 pmhttp://www.osk.com.my/oskv2/UserFiles/OSKH%20Group%20Corporate%20Structure%20(2012.05.11).pdf
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No wonder OSK-UOB is heavily promoted by them. whistling.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(aronteh @ Jul 16 2012, 10:00 PM)

Added on July 16, 2012, 10:17 pmIn the weekend edition of The Business Times, 30 June - 1 July 2012:

"I am a proven liar. Don't believe anything I say," said Samuel Israel. He is the hedge fund manager convicted of running a US$450million Ponzi scheme who faked his own suicide in 2008 to avoid his prison sentence before turning himself in after a worldwide manhunt.

When asked what can an investor do to avoid being conned, he said, "Seek as much transparency as possible. If they do not understand exactly how a manager is making money, do not invest. If there is a secret process that cannot be explained, run."

Investors are sometimes too busy looking for profits to notice where the truth ends and the deception begins.

Quote I read from another Investment Blog.
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Added on July 16, 2012, 10:51 pm
QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 16 2012, 10:23 PM)
No wonder OSK-UOB is heavily promoted by them. whistling.gif
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U too slow to realise that, Dave laugh.gif

But even before I started investing with FSM, I'm already a fan of OSK-UOB funds...Global Equity Yield Fund, Smart Treasure Fund, Equity Trust...made money with all of them with full sales charge back then when I'm investing thru EON Bank. nod.gif

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SUSDavid83
post Jul 16 2012, 11:18 PM

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U too slow to realise that, Dave laugh.gif

But even before I started investing with FSM, I'm already a fan of OSK-UOB funds...Global Equity Yield Fund, Smart Treasure Fund, Equity Trust...made money with all of them with full sales charge back then when I'm investing thru EON Bank. nod.gif
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Well I did ask about that but seems like nobody answer that.
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post Jul 16 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 16 2012, 11:18 PM)
Well I did ask about that but seems like nobody answer that.
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Well, they DO promote funds from Pacific, AmInvestment and Kenanga... tongue.gif
aronteh
post Jul 17 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 16 2012, 11:28 PM)
Well, they DO promote funds from Pacific, AmInvestment and Kenanga... tongue.gif
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From their list of recommended funds, I think FSM is fair and not bias to OSK-UOB funds.
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post Jul 17 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 16 2012, 08:49 PM)
To me.. Any investment other than stocks, gold, UT and properties that promise of giving anything higher than FD, around 4 to 8%, I will study and understand first before putting my hard earn money into them. Anything the promise 9% and above, I will try to avoid.. But sure study kaw kaw la if it is worth going into or not.
9% and above for other than the said investment above, I will definitely avoid. This is just my opinion... Anybody can comment?
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Your appetite will getting bigger and bigger when u see ur money growing slow...wuhahahaha....Reits...i'm studying now
Kaka23
post Jul 18 2012, 09:57 AM

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Asean Shares Best With Top Risk-Adjusted Returns: Southeast Asia

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-17/a...heast-asia.html


Time to consider SEA portfolio? Hehe...
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post Jul 18 2012, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 18 2012, 09:57 AM)
Asean Shares Best With Top Risk-Adjusted Returns: Southeast Asia

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-17/a...heast-asia.html
Time to consider SEA portfolio? Hehe...
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Can u stand the volatility? Some of the ASEAN markets are classified as "Frontier Markets"...their volatility is even higher then Emerging Markets brows.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 18 2012, 10:53 AM)
Can u stand the volatility? Some of the ASEAN markets are classified as "Frontier Markets"...their volatility is even higher then Emerging Markets brows.gif
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My SEA fund is the highest performing in my portfolio now!
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 18 2012, 11:00 AM)
My SEA fund is the highest performing in my portfolio now!
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Time to switch out? ph34r.gif
Kaka23
post Jul 18 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 18 2012, 11:53 AM)
Can u stand the volatility? Some of the ASEAN markets are classified as "Frontier Markets"...their volatility is even higher then Emerging Markets brows.gif
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Maybe cannot take too much volatility at the moment.. if I got substantial backup ammo/bullets, then I am not afraid of volatile.. haha


Added on July 18, 2012, 11:37 am
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 18 2012, 12:27 PM)
Time to switch out? ph34r.gif
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I think should keep it and monitor closely on EU and US.

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post Jul 18 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 18 2012, 11:36 AM)
Maybe cannot take too much volatility at the moment.. if I got substantial backup ammo/bullets, then I am not afraid of volatile.. haha
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U can always allocate <10% of ur portfolio to such high volatility funds...any disaster also AmDynamic Bond can cover for it laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 18 2012, 12:38 PM)
U can always allocate <10% of ur portfolio to such high volatility funds...any disaster also AmDynamic Bond can cover for it laugh.gif
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Bro.. sad to say, all my invested funds are not more than 7% of my total portfolio. Only 2 funds are above 10%.. see how sad I am.


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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 18 2012, 11:42 AM)
Bro.. sad to say, all my invested funds are not more than 7% of my total portfolio. Only 2 funds are above 10%.. see how sad I am.
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Which could also means...u are OVERdiversified laugh.gif

My smallest holding is at 5%...biggest at 48% tongue.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 18 2012, 12:48 PM)
Which could also means...u are OVERdiversified laugh.gif

My smallest holding is at 5%...biggest at 48% tongue.gif
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My AmDynamic already take a big chunk of it bro... >70%
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 18 2012, 11:51 AM)
My AmDynamic already take a big chunk of it bro... >70%
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Both u and I are (too) overweight fixed income...stable but could underperform when equities rally hmm.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 12:03 PM

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Ah... if AmDynamic bond didnt close for purchase, I would have so much overweight to fix income. Choices has to be made bro, I believe AmDynamic can give good returns as the EU and US thingy will still be dragging for 1, 2 or 3 yrs to go...


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post Jul 18 2012, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 18 2012, 11:27 AM)
Time to switch out? ph34r.gif
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No idea. Still monitoring. As of today, the paper is 19.67%
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 18 2012, 02:11 PM)
No idea. Still monitoring. As of today, the paper is 19.67%
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How long you have stayed invested on SEA portfolio funds?

Lumpsum? or DDI?

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