anyhow, its my real face la. dun like meh? me no cute?

meaning, happy4ever is not a 'her'?

This is not a war. This is about cautioning people not to get cheated and teaching people how to smell scam, legal business scam which is very common in Malaysia.

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Added on August 14, 2008, 1:56 pm
happyforever,

You can think that I am arrogant to make the next 2 statements. Why do I need to consult SC/BNM or whatever departments before I give my opinion ? I can understand such scheme better than them . By asking SiliCON and cornering him here showed better results. The way SiliCON twist and turn exposed many things already.
If you ask them, they can't give you any comment or action. By the time they take action, too many people will lost their money.

BTW, please don't use the word "spamming" on me if it is not a compliment. I am not a troll and my messages is good enough to show.

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Added on August 14, 2008, 2:03 pm

I know where you are coming from but wish to stress again that to deal with such scams and scamish people, it won't work this way. They are already using your statements to promote, statements like; "no one can say we are illegal, even government departments or forums can define it, so how can you ?" or "if we are illegal, do you think reputable forums allow me to post ?" Then some of your statements are being cut and paste for wrongful use.

I will get straight to the point to expose them, nothing to do with legality. Suich business scams work well in Malaysia because they are legal until it is too late to become illegal.

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Added on August 14, 2008, 2:07 pm

No must not close. It is useful for everyone to read to be more knowledgeable. Earlier one of their nickname came in making personal attacks hoping the moderators will close it so that less people will know this scam. Initially, the OP started this thread hoping to get prospects from members here, now backfire loh.

He or she has changed the pictures several time. I am confused. Easier to recognise scams than those pictures.

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Added on August 16, 2008, 5:14 pm

Here is something new to you. Maybe you have not heard of such scams yet. All such scams started the same way(beginners all make some money) and ended the same way(majority will lose money, except that the Company will give different excuses when it ended).

You don't need to know it is a scam only when people come out to say they have lost their money. In such investment scams, no one will admit they lost money because already too "pai seh" and embarrass to admit. Only those who have made some money will lie later to claim that they lost money too because they don't want to be blamed by others.

Just like they can claim that they are not illegal because they are "still" allowed to operate.

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Added on August 16, 2008, 5:17 pm

Please get rid of that horrible picture befoere you frightened off our follwers in this thread !!

Here is something new to you. Maybe you have not heard of such scams yet. All such scams started the same way(beginners all make some money) and ended the same way(majority will lose money, except that the Company will give different excuses when it ended).

You don't need to know it is a scam only when people come out to say they have lost their money. In such investment scams, no one will admit they lost money because already too "pai seh" and embarrass to admit. Only those who have made some money will lie later to claim that they lost money too because they don't want to be blamed by others.

Just like they can claim that they are not illegal because they are "still" allowed to operate.

FYI you are not restricted to just 'investing' rm3,000 in this scheme.  They have a lot of different entry points ranging from rm3,000 to even rm33,000! I'm glad that this thread exists otherwise a lot of people would have gotten burnt. I note with interest that the discussion had been going on this forum for a few months and that the STG scheme is still going strong. Any idea if the Sunway Pyramid outlet is opened yet alongside the other outlets?

I also notice that their website has no mention of any restaurant locations so does that indicate they're still not opened for business yet? Which means no avenue to generate revenue to sustain this scheme (apart from relying on 'new investors')

It has been launched officially to coincide with Beijing Olympics and free food in sunway pyramid.

Ok, thanks for the update. So I guessed they have launched their first outlet.

However as I pointed out they have different entry ranges into this scheme (I hesitate to use the word 'scam' here), from rm3k up to rm33k (or even more, who knows). Which makes this scheme no longer a 'prepaid food' scheme, but an investment scheme. I started reading up more on this when someone dear to me said that they were gonna invest so much money into the scheme. And as i read along this forum, the skepticism just grew.

Hope this forum continues on while the progress of this saga develops..

"still going strong" or not depends on how you interprete it. As such investment scehems are no longer new in Malaysia, many people no longer believe them and those who are new and believe go for schemes that gave much higher returns. In fact, SC announced that STG wuill open in Sunway, TS, MV, Genting and even tie up with Touch n Go. They announced in April but until today most doesn't come true, so you can guess whether they are strong or not. Definitely, their performance have not been as good as they anticipated.

There are many conditions not mentioned in their website too. One of my friend noticed a "condition" in the agreement "hidden" earlier and believed my opinion that it is a scam.
Even till today, they don't have a MLM license.  Actually from the way they operate, you can tell whether it is a scam or not.

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Added on August 18, 2008, 5:02 pm

Sionce your skeptism grew, you should caution your dear friend/s. Otherwise, in future they could blame you for not doing so since you have read this thread. Thats what friends are for...

Please read my 3rd last para of post #397 at page 20 of this thread. Actually not just greed, majority of Malaysians are simple-minded and words like "no risk no gain" and "those who are against because they are not our members so they don't understand" or "others are jealous of our success, so they go against us" are all right to say and sound right to those who don't understand how such scams work

No, there is no debate. We already smelled scams right from the start but the TS is desperately trying to use this thread/forum to promote his business. Even his supporters have all disappeared; maybe finally understand our messages.

Huh ? You are too naive. So if you see someone trying to do something to your door lock, you don't think he is trying to break in because he has not broken in yet ? Or if you see someone climbed out of a high rise buidling window, you don't think he is trying to commit suicide until he actually took the leap ?

In such "legal-in-Malaysia" investment schemes, they all worked the same, I explained in my earlier messages.

If you have read most of the TS messages and swee the way he reacted and posted, you can tell that he knows how the whole scheme works but just pretended to play innocent.Another reason to show that you are really naive and innocent.   Be careful, people like you fall to such scams easily.

WOW..wats up watsup.....sorry for absent, in my holiday for the last 10days....

Don't be naive. You can NEVER get any prove to say STG is a scam. You don't need prove, the scheme tells it is a scam. This is Malaysia. Bolehland. In Singapore, it's NOT even allowed to run such scheme, no need prove. Furthermore, there is a hidden condition in the agreement that allows the Management to STOP paying any time. Memebers here have been asking that CON, I mean Silicon to show the agreement here also he dare that, isn't it enough to prove ?
Most people in KL knows.
You know Red Island Cafe in Pandan Indah ? Less customers now. Their 2nd branch in Pandan Indah hardly any customers because news spread and everyone knows such scams so people boycott the place. Who wants to to seen there and get a bad reputation ? Now they go to smaller cities like Penang.
The same will goes for STG. They boosted of 5 new branches in 5 months but only 1 now.

I think you're over doing it. You have to be careful, you could be sued for defamation you know?
Hey I'm not supporting STG but I keep my ranting to a certain limits.
I've seen you evolved from simple advise to people to ....a witch hunt.
You should have balance dude.
BTW Did you report STG to any government body about the scam like you so claim?

Where u going for your holiday anyway ?

What witch hunt ? Many people fall into scams because of our selfish society. Everyone keeps knowledge to themselves, thats why scams like this always happen.

Sue me ? So why do you think I am still around ? Do some simple thin king; or do you need my explaination ?

Report ? That is another matter I wish to keep confidential.

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Added on August 28, 2008, 6:27 pm

Report or not is another matter; someone is using this forum to promote, I have the right to  voice, right ?

Irritate with me or not is also another matter, my aim is to warn our members because STG member is using this forum to promote which I will not allow. You are wrong to thin k that I want to "harm" STG or SC. Indirectly, what I am doing is helping them to last longer. Do you know that in such schemes, the moere people join, the faster it will collapse ?

If you think that I am from a competitor, then I think you are very selfish to think so. Such scams exist because of a selfish society, do you know that ? You are trying to tell that you will not do such things like me unless for competition reasons ? You are wrong, not everyone act for selfish reasons. I guess you don't believe Buddha or Jesus existed ?