Whats the WORSE that could happen if the sceptics (like chat) said untrue stuff and become a "con" . We won't lose $$$$ from that, only lose trust from that person. Why would that person wanna to great lengths to disprove you? did he earned $$$$ from that ?

You are different, you are trying hard to defend your "business",. because if you really manage to pull through, you gain $$$$ . But IF whatever you tried to defend here if proven to be CON, hahaha..... alot of ppl's $$$$ lost already. conners wont care about trust.

Anyway, serious and sincere businessperson usually won't mind showing his face to everybody. This is because he has nothing to hide, and if whatever he do really can benefit others by good returns of investment, he'll be much happy to let others see his mugshot and remember him (for promotional purpose mer).

Only scammers are very tactful about disclosing too much of his personal info to the public for fear of backlash. It's a no brainer.

yep, they definitely paid good $$$ to have an article written for them.


Millions in funds must be solicited so that a huge % from it can be channeled into advertisements (which usually means little % are truly for the product, in this case here: the quality of food/beverages). As how average humans perceive ads, the more they see them, the more impression that they feel they are going all out to push their product.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jul 12 2008, 11:39 AM

Sometimes legal documents/agreement are made to be thick and contains dozens of paper, in hope the one signing it won't be bother to read them all. And usually the tricky terms are tucked smack right between the favorable ones.


With such terms, won't that nullify the value of such legal agreement to the standard of toilet paper? At least toilet paper are clean and not smeared with inks from many printed text and mumbo jumbo in the agreement.

Its like getting a $1000 shopping voucher with terms that allows the issuer to change the value of the voucher he see fit.



This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Aug 3 2008, 12:20 AM

for 1), you are giving examples of a few PROFITABLE F&B ONLY, while did not mention about many others that failed too.

for 2). Steven corner's been selling for 31 years, and they still selling today means during the last 31 years, the sustained BUT NOT IMPROVING especially in the quality of their food . If they are "strong" brand, the last 31 years should see them having opened at least 1 branch each in every state (at the very least). Why only AFTER the 30th year, they started this kind of scheme to expand?

From your rationale, if the 31 years are used as benchmark of stability , like how others said, they should be able to get bank loans to further expand their business,rather that collecting funds from the public members to do it.

Most business (if their owners are shrewd enough), after 3-4 years of stability and growth, they will try to expand. And if all goes well, the 30th year of expansion should see alot of branches. 30 years of "merely" opening 2-3 mamaks, does gives and impression that the owner is "not that a good" business person. Would anyone put $$$ and trust to the people managing this "3-mamaks-in-31-years-of-business" restaurant?

Try go survey the patrons of their current food and services, and see what's their comment.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Aug 13 2008, 11:27 AM

"those who are against because they are not our members so they don't understand"

haha.. thats a tarp to make us their member, as ONLY (paid) member "understand". LOL

We understand that by paying to become a member, that somebody have automatic "understanding" that he must continue with his scheme, or else his $$ will be burned, hence that's why they insist "non members WILL NEVER understand".


"others are jealous of our success, so they go against us"

this one's a classic. grouping those who are wary as the "jealous" people. I heard similar phrase before in MLM seminars. The scheme just started, success? huh? success are subjective depending on different party involved of course

for the "scheme starter", yay.. its a SUCCESS. We managed to get xxxx members and $xxx,xxxx of funding.

for the members, are the returns of investment safely in their bank account/hands already (after deducting the initial $$ put in)? if their "success" means putting in the initial sum to such an "outstanding venture" (and laughing at those who haven;t yet invested in), these kinda success are superficial and syok-sendiri. No mature investors would behave in such a way, only kiddies that's just out of college bragging to their frens in yumchar.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Aug 19 2008, 05:29 PM

Ic... its good to think +ve-ly

from another angle,

..maybe normal operation hours ain't enuff to cover the losses, that's why they open for longer hours.
.. and btw, people who doesn't know how to swim "usually" kicks harder to stay afloat. but thats their problem. don't kick whoever next to him and drown them as well

You've learned a new word from other forumer here, then used it to strengthen your argument, by you used it in the wrong context. LOL.

Its NOT a business, it might merely be an investment with its legality's doubted.

Are you sure you know what you are doing.. copying how others reply, then used it as your own?