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post Mar 31 2009, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(youjian @ Mar 30 2009, 01:47 PM)
it is possible to finish them in 2 or 3 years, it all depends on whether u practice onot? or how talented you arr... fyi.... i juz started piano in january this year and now i can play grade 4 songs..(i have music background)
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Sounds good, able to play grade 4 songs within 3 months.

QUOTE(christellia @ Mar 30 2009, 03:06 PM)
All depends on your progression. Hence, you can shorten the duration. In my opinion, I think it is quite impossible for you to finish the 8 grades within 2 to 3 years. This is for non-music background. Even though you have music background, it is still hard. It depends on your teacher too. If he or she do not want you to skip, you cannot do anything. Furthermore, your fingers are not nimble anymore. You can skip very fast when you are in grade 1 to 5. When you reach to grade 6 to 8, your progression will slower. You need to cope well in practical and theory in the same time. Grade 8 examination fee is not equal to ABRSM certificate. It is only for your Grade 8 certificate. Therefore, it will not state that you have completed from grade 1 to 8. It only state that you have pass, achieve merit or distinction for Grade 8. I want to remind you again. I think nowadays Grade 8 examination fee is not RM 340 anymore. The examination fee will increase.
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Let say if I want to pursue a career in music, to be a music teacher and operate my own music school. Diploma is essential?

Which is better, learning at music school or at home? But if I choose to learn at home with the teacher, where should I take the exams? Those piano teacher at home got linked with the Malaysia Piano Association ah? Hmm....
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post Mar 31 2009, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 31 2009, 11:36 AM)
Let say if I want to pursue a career in music, to be a music teacher and operate my own music school. Diploma is essential?

Which is better, learning at music school or at home? But if I choose to learn at home with the teacher, where should I take the exams? Those piano teacher at home got linked with the Malaysia Piano Association ah? Hmm....
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you can be a music teacher, but please consider a few points:

1. do you love teaching?
2. why you want to teach?
3. do you know how much responsibility you have for your students?

regarding what are the minimum qualifications? you decide. teaching is passing on knowledge, if you think you have enough knowledge to pass on (and willing to pass on), by all means go ahead. but again, refer to the point 3 above - imagine you're a student, you don't want to follow a teacher who got low qualification, or dunno how to teach (even though the teacher have high qualification and an excellent performer), or simply no passion in teaching? wink.gif

as for where to learn, it doesn't matter, as long as you found a good teacher. either teaching in music center or teach at home also can register for the exams, even register by yourself.
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post Mar 31 2009, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 31 2009, 11:36 AM)
Let say if I want to pursue a career in music, to be a music teacher and operate my own music school. Diploma is essential?
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There is a Diploma in Teaching course. I do not know whether it is essential or not. If you are younger than 16 or 17 years old ( I had already forgotten. The two either one. ), you are not allow to take it. It has the age limit. The minimum entry requirement to pursue music course in MIA and so on is having a Grade 5 certificate.
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post Apr 6 2009, 04:26 PM

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ugh, my scholarship got rejected... cry.gif well, probably my fault anyway, i was gibberish shakehead.gif

anyone have any knowledge about piano competitions which offer scholarships? icon_question.gif
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post May 13 2009, 05:49 PM

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Man, I want to start back piano. I finished my grade 5 like last 2 years or something. Lost the touch of piano. How do you guys remember your bass clef notes! I've trouble remembering them. But I can remember treble.
I want to start back ! Any advices?
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post May 13 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(don8ld @ May 13 2009, 05:49 PM)
Man, I want to start back piano. I finished my grade 5 like last 2 years or something. Lost the touch of piano. How do you guys remember your bass clef notes! I've trouble remembering them. But I can remember treble.
I want to start back ! Any advices?
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uh.. jz practice back the songs that you've played b4? im sure you'll be back in top shape in no time. maybe 10 minutes a day (well works for me anyway lol)
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post May 14 2009, 05:34 PM

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Just started with a keyboard 4 days ago.

Very into jazz, so far trying to play by ear(but found out that is impossible for now). Any advice from sifu in here?

I want to get to the level where I can play with both hands and just play what I feel at the moment.
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post May 15 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(cyloh @ May 14 2009, 05:34 PM)
Just started with a keyboard 4 days ago.

Very into jazz, so far trying to play by ear(but found out that is impossible for now). Any advice from sifu in here?

I want to get to the level where I can play with both hands and just play what I feel at the moment.
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U gotta know your keys and your chord progressions (practice the scales A LOT 1. to familiarize with the key, 2. useful if you wanna do some improvisation and know where to plant your fingers), especially if ur into jazz playing, you need a very strong understanding of music theory. I suggest you learn play some simple chords first. once you get to the point when u listen to songs and go "ah, i know that chord, and what comes next" you can play what you want. Or even experiment more with 7th chords, inversions, etc.

And quite frankly, a lot of pianists can't play by ear. Especially those who are classically trained, they just know how to sight read from the sheet music and don't practice what they learn in their theory. THat used to include me. lol. so yea, if you can play by ear there's a big possibility you will fool those who learnt piano for 8 years.

http://www.playpiano.com/ I'm subscribed to this and found it pretty helpful.

btw i'm not a sifu. LONG WAY TO GO haha.. and personally i find most chinese songs easy to train/analyze chords, cuz they all sound horribly predictable. well, to me anyway.

This post has been edited by vertigoblack: May 15 2009, 01:05 AM
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post May 15 2009, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(cyloh @ May 14 2009, 05:34 PM)
Just started with a keyboard 4 days ago.

Very into jazz, so far trying to play by ear(but found out that is impossible for now). Any advice from sifu in here?

I want to get to the level where I can play with both hands and just play what I feel at the moment.
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If you wish to play according to your feeling, you need to understand the theme of the song and what is the message that the composer want to share. Then, enjoy the song. However, at the same time, you need to play with your ear. Listen to your playing and aware some special chords. For instance, diminished 7th chord, extended dominant chord and so on. Try to stress a little bit on them to let people know that there is a special chord in the song. The purpose of a composer to put the special chords in a song is to enrich the harmony of the song. Frankly, most of the pianists and keyboardists use to skip the special chords and replace it with an easier chord. This is a bad habit.
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QUOTE(christellia @ May 15 2009, 02:31 PM)
If you wish to play according to your feeling, you need to understand the theme of the song and what is the message that the composer want to share. Then, enjoy the song. However, at the same time, you need to play with your ear. Listen to your playing and aware some special chords. For instance, diminished 7th chord, extended dominant chord and so on. Try to stress a little bit on them to let people know that there is a special chord in the song. The purpose of a composer to put the special chords in a song is to enrich the harmony of the song. Frankly, most of the pianists and keyboardists use to skip the special chords and replace it with an easier chord. This is a bad habit.
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agreed:D
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post May 15 2009, 04:04 PM

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I am getting a Clavinova soon but I need to get rid of my old Pearl River acoustic piano and a Yamaha organ.

Seriously, whenever you guys upgrade, what happens to the old one? Is there a trade-in program or buy back or even if donate, where to? Or if let's say sell cheap to other interested young students, where?

I didnt wanna create a new topic for this so I wrote it here, hope I dont offend anybody. Thanks in advance.
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post May 17 2009, 10:49 AM

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hello, everyone here
here's a song i got to share with you guys.
Anybody here got the scores of this song?
I've been searching around, but still yet to find one.
A pm from you guys will be cool. Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peb44mD36z0
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post Jun 8 2009, 04:33 AM

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Hi Piano Clan!

I wanted to start learning piano again and hope can get some good advice or maybe a teacher here. Some background of myself:

1) Had some basic piano training at 8 years old. Not even Grade 1.
2) 5 years ago, I took up Play By Ear and reached Level 2.
3) Able to play some simple Nobuo Uematsu and Jay Chao songs.
4) Now I am 31 years OLD!

Is it possible to learn classical piano (ABRSM, etc) all over again to reach grade 8 at my age? Or what approach should I take? sob sob...my dream is to play the piano in hotels or anywhere just to pass my time when I retire...
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post Jun 8 2009, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(hysteresis @ Jun 8 2009, 04:33 AM)
Hi Piano Clan!

I wanted to start learning piano again and hope can get some good advice or maybe a teacher here. Some background of myself:

1) Had some basic piano training at 8 years old. Not even Grade 1.
2) 5 years ago, I took up Play By Ear and reached Level 2.
3) Able to play some simple Nobuo Uematsu and Jay Chao songs.
4) Now I am 31 years OLD!

Is it possible to learn classical piano (ABRSM, etc) all over again to reach grade 8 at my age? Or what approach should I take? sob sob...my dream is to play the piano in hotels or anywhere just to pass my time when I retire...
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ehh u same case with me.. for me it was 6 yrs old.... i think we can straight go for grade 3 or 4.. then take exam all the way til grade 8... better go ask the music center loh.. they can advise u how de.. but i know is possible ler..
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post Jun 8 2009, 11:47 PM

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Hi guys and ladies. well... never had the chance to learn the piano when young, so now old liao wana stay. bought myself a digital piano and banging away, jz wana say hi to all ^^
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Hi, piano clan.....

finally there is a place for piano lovers to gather.... been searching for a place like this to discuss about pianos but mostly found guitar threads laugh.gif

Hi all....


still looking for a digital piano with 88keys >.< so far say the Yamaha P8 around RM3k.... anyone here own one of that model?

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moyong, Yamaha P85 in malaysia is around RM2600.

Korg SP250 is RM2700 at CKmusic, which is a better one
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post Jun 9 2009, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kase @ Jun 8 2009, 03:27 PM)
ehh u same case with me.. for me it was 6 yrs old.... i think we can straight go for grade 3 or 4.. then take exam all the way til grade 8... better go ask the music center loh.. they can advise u how de.. but i know is possible ler..
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Hmm...skip grades eh...that sounds encouraging...lol. I'll ask around on this.
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QUOTE(hysteresis @ Jun 9 2009, 06:44 PM)
Hmm...skip grades eh...that sounds encouraging...lol. I'll ask around on this.
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i once skipped to g3 before, yes you are playing g3's song, but do you have the proficiency of that grade? side reading etc..
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post Jun 10 2009, 10:54 AM

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I never mean to teach piano,but then, I have to become a piano teacher as for my part time.

Teaching music is never one of my motive in taking up music degree as it needs your ever-existing responsibility, time and efforts in bringing up a student. You may think that teaching is plainly teach students how to play a song and get a song book done then go for exam, but hey, you'll never know what is coming up next. Let's say, syllabus changed, exam details changed, parents giving you pressure, extra time need to be given to students prior their exams etc... Some parents even counting the class time second by second, as they don't mean to let teacher take advantage of their fees by taking off class time 3 or 5 minutes earlier.

My aim for current is get all my students complete their grade 5 exams then I will leave for my actual aim, which is to become a pianist at lounge/pub, in the mean time, go for frontline artiste when the preparations and procedures are ready.

All the best to you all~!

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