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TSahsiah
post Jul 10 2008, 10:28 AM

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@Reuben,

Mind to do a screen shot capture for Core Temp. I want to see the VID of your CPU.

Based on your message above, I assumed your setting as below. Please correct me if the below setting are wrong.

CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
C1E Support: Enabled
CPU TM Function: AUTO
Vandarpool Technology: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled

Overclocking Settings
FSB Frequency - 333
Ratio - 9

DRAM Timing Control - AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control - DISABLE
Transaction Booster - Disabled
Relax Level/Boost Level - 0

CPU Voltage - 1.385v
CPU Voltage Reference - 0.63x
CPU Voltage Damper - Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage - AUTO
DRAM Voltage - AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage - AUTO
North Bridge Voltage - AUTO
North Bridge Voltage Reference - 0.67x
South Bridge Voltage - AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum - Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Disable

For your case, you must set the NB Voltage Reference and CPU Voltage Reference as stated above. And then, you should just focus on setting FSB Termination Voltage and CPU Voltage only.

Bare in mind, always check your temperature using Asus Probe II. Don't stress your system too much.

Now, waiting for your reply.


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post Jul 10 2008, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Jul 10 2008, 10:28 AM)
@Reuben,

Mind to do a screen shot capture for Core Temp. I want to see the VID of your CPU.

Based on your message above, I assumed your setting as below. Please correct me if the below setting are wrong.

CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
C1E Support: Enabled
CPU TM Function: AUTO
Vandarpool Technology: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled

Overclocking Settings
FSB Frequency - 333
Ratio - 9

DRAM Timing Control - AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control - DISABLE
Transaction Booster - Disabled
Relax Level/Boost Level - 0

CPU Voltage - 1.385v
CPU Voltage Reference - 0.63x
CPU Voltage Damper - Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage - AUTO
DRAM Voltage - AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage - AUTO
North Bridge Voltage - AUTO
North Bridge Voltage Reference - 0.67x
South Bridge Voltage - AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum - Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Disable

For your case, you must set the NB Voltage Reference and CPU Voltage Reference as stated above. And then, you should just focus on setting FSB Termination Voltage and CPU Voltage only.

Bare in mind, always check your temperature using Asus Probe II. Don't stress your system too much.

Now, waiting for your reply.
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Thanks for the update biggrin.gif Will give it a go. and I will post my coretemp vid shortly when i go back for lunch.
What is a recommended FSB termination voltage?

also i tried googling this all up on what each of them do but i don't quite understand still biggrin.gif Would appreciate some brief explanations.

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post Jul 10 2008, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 10 2008, 11:31 AM)
Thanks for the update biggrin.gif Will give it a go. and I will post my coretemp vid shortly when i go back for lunch.
What is a recommended FSB termination voltage?

also i tried googling this all up on what each of them do but i don't quite understand still biggrin.gif Would appreciate some brief explanations.
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Coretemp reports.
CPUID=0x6FB
APICID=0
Revision=G0
Processor=Intel Core 2 Quad 6600 (Kentsfield)
Frequency=3005.55MHz (333.95x9.0)
Platform=LGA775
VID=1.3250v

Is the high VID the culprit here? sad.gif


Nawp still crashed. I went and wrote everything down when it failed at 3.2ghz
When I put my results with a / means I tried them all

AI Overclock: Manual
CPU Ratio: 9
FSB Strap: Auto
FSB frequency: 355
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM: DDR2 711MHz
Dram Command: Auto
dram timing: Auto 5-5-5-18-3-42-6-3-3
Dram static Disabled
Transaction booster: Disabled Relax 0
CPU Voltage: 1.375 and changed it up to 1.425
CPU PLL: Auto
FSB Termination: Auto/1.2/1.3
NB: Auto/1.2/1.4
Clockovercharging voltage: AUTO
Load line calibration (i think this is voltage dampener): Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage: 0.63/AUTO
NB GLL Voltage Reference: 0.67/AUTO
Spread spectrum for both cpu and gpu disabled.
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post Jul 11 2008, 12:13 PM

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AI Overclock: Manual
CPU Ratio: 8
FSB Strap: 333
FSB frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM: DDR2 800MHz
Dram Command: 2
dram timing: Auto 5-5-5-18-3-42-6-3-3
Dram static Enabled
Transaction booster: Auto ( At 400fsb it will find the lowest.. so no worries)
CPU Voltage: 1.35
CPU PLL: 1.6
FSB Termination: 1.2/1.3 try both (until u can load into windows)
NB: 1.4v
Clockovercharging voltage: Disabled
Load line calibration (i think this is voltage dampener): Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage: 0.67
NB GLL Voltage Reference: Auto
Spread spectrum for both cpu and gpu disabled.
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wheres ure mem voltage?? set that to 2.0v for now..
run orthos and get the small fft stable...
then then blend...

then everyday tweak ure ram/nb voltages until perfect..

but seriously wasting ure time tweaking that mobo..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 11 2008, 12:14 PM
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post Jul 11 2008, 05:25 PM

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my expert bro, i'm newbie here n need recommendation to OC my tracer 4x1gb 800mhz with P5N32E-SLI n QX6700. minimum setting will do because never OC before. i tried oredi but cannot boot my vista la...................

my setting is in the tweaker extreme window, AI Overclock [AI OC] n SLI ready [CPUOC 1%]. is that all that i have to set?

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post Jul 11 2008, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(wlp9185 @ Jul 11 2008, 05:25 PM)
my expert bro, i'm newbie here n need recommendation to OC my tracer 4x1gb 800mhz with P5N32E-SLI. minimum setting will do because never OC before. i tried oredi but cannot boot my vista la...................

my setting is in the tweaker extreme window, AI Overclock [AI OC] n SLI ready [CPUOC 1%]. is that all that i have to set?
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You're only overclocking your RAM? What about your CPU?

Usually the auto tweakers aren't that useful imho.

QUOTE(cstkl1)

wheres ure mem voltage?? set that to 2.0v for now..
run orthos and get the small fft stable...
then then blend...

then everyday tweak ure ram/nb voltages until perfect..

but seriously wasting ure time tweaking that mobo..
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Thanks for the tips and yes I realized I'm wasting my time so I got myself an x38 Asus Maximus Formula so I can run pcie16 x 2:D appreciate yoru help though as it did improve my knowledge.

Btw I managed to get it to 3.2 ghz but at an extremely high voltage at 1.485 WITH the pencil mod. Ahsiah has told me it's most likely the high VID I got with this chip and I am inclined to agree. This combined with the stupid voltage droop on the P5K kinda ensures my doom sad.gif

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post Jul 11 2008, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 11 2008, 05:27 PM)
You're only overclocking your RAM? What about your CPU?

Usually the auto tweakers aren't that useful imho.

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should i follow this setting? but where to set the CPU OC?
AI Overclock: Manual
CPU Ratio: 8
FSB Strap: 333
FSB frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM: DDR2 800MHz
Dram Command: 2
dram timing: Auto 5-5-5-18-3-42-6-3-3
Dram static Enabled
Transaction booster: Auto ( At 400fsb it will find the lowest.. so no worries)
CPU Voltage: 1.35
CPU PLL: 1.6
FSB Termination: 1.2/1.3 try both (until u can load into windows)
NB: 1.4v
Clockovercharging voltage: Disabled
Load line calibration (i think this is voltage dampener): Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage: 0.67
NB GLL Voltage Reference: Auto
Spread spectrum for both cpu and gpu disabled
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post Jul 11 2008, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 11 2008, 05:27 PM)
You're only overclocking your RAM? What about your CPU?

Usually the auto tweakers aren't that useful imho.

QUOTE(cstkl1)

wheres ure mem voltage?? set that to 2.0v for now..
run orthos and get the small fft stable...
then then blend...

then everyday tweak ure ram/nb voltages until perfect..

but seriously wasting ure time tweaking that mobo..
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Thanks for the tips and yes I realized I'm wasting my time so I got myself an x38 Asus Maximus Formula so I can run pcie16 x 2:D appreciate yoru help though as it did improve my knowledge.

Btw I managed to get it to 3.2 ghz but at an extremely high voltage at 1.485 WITH the pencil mod. Ahsiah has told me it's most likely the high VID I got with this chip and I am inclined to agree. This combined with the stupid voltage droop on the P5K kinda ensures my doom sad.gif
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well i dont.. agree on that
3.6 maybe..
but not for 3.2 assuming ures a G0

i still think ure fsb voltages are wrong..and gtl also
hence ure forcing ure voltage for vcore to push through..

x38 stay away from abit..


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post Jul 11 2008, 10:49 PM

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[quote=cstkl1,Jul 11 2008, 08:10 PM]
Thanks for the tips and yes I realized I'm wasting my time so I got myself an x38 Asus Maximus Formula so I can run pcie16 x 2:D appreciate yoru help though as it did improve my knowledge.

Btw I managed to get it to 3.2 ghz but at an extremely high voltage at 1.485 WITH the pencil mod. Ahsiah has told me it's most likely the high VID I got with this chip and I am inclined to agree. This combined with the stupid voltage droop on the P5K kinda ensures my doom sad.gif
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[/quote]

well i dont.. agree on that
3.6 maybe..
but not for 3.2 assuming ures a G0

i still think ure fsb voltages are wrong..and gtl also
hence ure forcing ure voltage for vcore to push through..

x38 stay away from abit..
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So, based on your suggestion, what GTL and FSB voltage should set? what is the right CPU voltage should set as well for 3.2?


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post Jul 11 2008, 11:06 PM

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[quote=ahsiah,Jul 11 2008, 10:49 PM]
well i dont.. agree on that
3.6 maybe..
but not for 3.2 assuming ures a G0

i still think ure fsb voltages are wrong..and gtl also
hence ure forcing ure voltage for vcore to push through..

x38 stay away from abit..
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[/quote]

So, based on your suggestion, what GTL and FSB voltage should set? what is the right CPU voltage should set as well for 3.2?
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[/quote]
typically for quaddies for 400fsb on asus mobos.. with some exception to the x48's and p45's
is usually

GTL 0.67x for all the cores
FSB .. try 1.2-1.4
PLL around 1.6
NB around 1.4v

get this right with lower multis..

if u know ure vcore stock works at 2.4v
then y not do 400x6..
and then just worry on those voltages above first
get them right
and then comes the easy part.. just keep upping ure multi and vcore.. once in a while u need to run memtest to make sure ure NB can support the current speed of ure rams.. u might need to up in a bit..
rams usually u need to up slightly which i suggest u overvolt ure rams.. first



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post Jul 12 2008, 01:59 AM


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bro cstkl1,what cooler u using on ur MIIF?
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post Jul 12 2008, 02:07 AM

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was using coolit freezone for the review

but now all the ram clocks posted using TRUE

cleaning the freezone rads at the moment.. alot of dust collected...

TRUE fits perfectly.. dunno y ure having a issue??

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@cstkl1

Bro, what is TRUE? Already googling but didnt get the answer
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QUOTE(aLWAYStHEsAME @ Jul 12 2008, 10:02 AM)
@cstkl1

Bro, what is TRUE? Already googling but didnt get the answer
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Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
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post Jul 12 2008, 10:08 AM


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well,
when the time i fitted the TRUE on my P5K-Premium,it fitted tightly and the hsf wont move,
but now i fitted TRUE on my MIIF,i tighten all the 4 screws,but i still can twist the hsf,seems like it's very loose,any idea on this?
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QUOTE(coolice @ Jul 12 2008, 10:06 AM)
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
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Owh I see.. didn't know it is called TRUE laugh.gif ... mine is Zalman CNPS9700NT, it is better if i upgraded to this one or just keep it... I read in the review the performance is good to biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jul 12 2008, 10:06 PM

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[quote=cstkl1,Jul 11 2008, 11:06 PM]
So, based on your suggestion, what GTL and FSB voltage should set? what is the right CPU voltage should set as well for 3.2?
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[/quote]
typically for quaddies for 400fsb on asus mobos.. with some exception to the x48's and p45's
is usually

GTL 0.67x for all the cores
FSB .. try 1.2-1.4
PLL around 1.6
NB around 1.4v

get this right with lower multis..

if u know ure vcore stock works at 2.4v
then y not do 400x6..
and then just worry on those voltages above first
get them right
and then comes the easy part.. just keep upping ure multi and vcore.. once in a while u need to run memtest to make sure ure NB can support the current speed of ure rams.. u might need to up in a bit..
rams usually u need to up slightly which i suggest u overvolt ure rams.. first
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[/quote]

@cstkl1,

in P35, some old revision (not EPU version) I guess still can set the CPU Voltage Reference as 0.63x for 65nm cpu. for those FSB below 450, you don't need to up PLL. FSB termination voltage is around 1.2 to 1.62. NB need to up little but not a lot. This formula so far serve me well in Asus P5K Deluxe up to 495FSB.


Added on July 12, 2008, 10:08 pm[quote=aLWAYStHEsAME,Jul 12 2008, 10:26 AM]
Owh I see.. didn't know it is called TRUE laugh.gif ... mine is Zalman CNPS9700NT, it is better if i upgraded to this one or just keep it... I read in the review the performance is good to biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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@aLWAYStHEsAME,

Zalman CNPS9700NT is a good cooler.

This post has been edited by ahsiah: Jul 12 2008, 10:08 PM
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post Jul 13 2008, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE
QUOTE(ahsiah @ Jul 12 2008, 10:06 PM)

typically for quaddies for 400fsb on asus mobos.. with some exception to the x48's and p45's
is usually

GTL 0.67x for all the cores
FSB .. try 1.2-1.4
PLL around 1.6
NB around 1.4v

get this right with lower multis..

if u know ure vcore stock works at 2.4v
then y not do 400x6..
and then just worry on those voltages above first
get them right
and then comes the easy part.. just keep upping ure multi and vcore.. once in a while u need to run memtest to make sure ure NB can support the current speed of ure rams.. u might need to up in a bit..
rams usually u need to up slightly which i suggest u overvolt ure rams.. first
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@cstkl1,

in P35, some old revision (not EPU version) I guess still can set the CPU Voltage Reference as 0.63x for 65nm cpu. for those FSB below 450, you don't need to up PLL. FSB termination voltage is around 1.2 to 1.62. NB need to up little but not a lot. This formula so far serve me well in Asus P5K Deluxe up to 495FSB.


Added on July 12, 2008, 10:08 pm

@aLWAYStHEsAME,

Zalman CNPS9700NT is a good cooler.
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kekeke...
u need the PLL voltage and gtl to 0.67 for 65nm quaddies..and the NB voltages are higher for quaddies..
not going to waste my time arguing with u..

fsb terminationa at 1.62?? did u know y many ppl screw up their mobos??
cause they dont know whats gtls and fsb termination voltage..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 13 2008, 12:22 PM
TSahsiah
post Jul 13 2008, 03:08 PM

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[quote=cstkl1,Jul 13 2008, 12:20 PM]
@cstkl1,

in P35, some old revision (not EPU version) I guess still can set the CPU Voltage Reference as 0.63x for 65nm cpu. for those FSB below 450, you don't need to up PLL. FSB termination voltage is around 1.2 to 1.62. NB need to up little but not a lot. This formula so far serve me well in Asus P5K Deluxe up to 495FSB.


Added on July 12, 2008, 10:08 pm

@aLWAYStHEsAME,

Zalman CNPS9700NT is a good cooler.
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[/quote]

kekeke...
u need the PLL voltage and gtl to 0.67 for 65nm quaddies..and the NB voltages are higher for quaddies..
not going to waste my time arguing with u..

fsb terminationa at 1.62?? did u know y many ppl screw up their mobos??
cause they dont know whats gtls and fsb termination voltage..
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Actually, I managed to use 0.59x for Q6600 G0. So, it is not necessary to use 0.67. During the P5K Deluxe time, I am using 0.63x. So, I am not sure your settings and understanding. I just not arguing with you on this matter.

1.62 still ok provided not orthos 7 days non-stop. 1.64 on wards is very dangerous for 24/7 use.

I agree with you on this matter that peoples might not understand this gtl and fsb termination voltage. Hopes people over here use it with your own risk. Don't push your motherboard over limit.
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post Jul 14 2008, 08:57 AM

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