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cstkl1
post Mar 30 2008, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Mar 29 2008, 10:29 PM)
I will set up my floppy drive for this revert back. Before that, I will post my result for Super PI and 3dmark06.
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well i have a asus engineering afudos here somewhere in my hdd

it was to flash back the rampage formula bios on the maximus
back to the original maximus formula.

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post Mar 30 2008, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(`my` @ Mar 30 2008, 07:48 PM)
What's wrong with the current BIOS?  hmm.gif
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sishh.. a silly question aint it..

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post Mar 30 2008, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(`my` @ Mar 30 2008, 09:09 PM)
Ain't Rampage an X48 mobo and Maximus an X38. So going from X48 to the original X38 would mean going back rite? So what's wrong with the current or latest BIOS?  hmm.gif

Or, I just get you wrong here.  hmm.gif
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x48 is just a higher bin x38
other than that the rampage formula board and maximus is the same
so using the right afudos u can flash the rampage bios into the maximus
to get full mem overclocking especially the performance levels
and also better gtl range.

u need engineering afudos if u want to flash back.

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post Mar 31 2008, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(`my` @ Mar 30 2008, 09:38 PM)
So, my previous question ain't silly. It's just you downgraded back meaning the latest BIOS got prob.  icon_rolleyes.gif

I know flashing BIOS is to solve previous problem but usually people will flash to latest, so that's why I'm asking why downgrading back? Is there a problem. So it's nothing silly.  whistling.gif
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again ure silly
its flashing a different mobo bios..
if shit happens dont u want to go back to the bios meant for ure mobo..

thats y u need the engineering afudos.

its not downgrading..its A DIFFERENT BIOS ALL TOGETHER..

do a google and find out difference with rampage formula and maximus formula
also its possible to flash a asus p5e into a maximus or a rampage formula but u might lose out some features for the p5e.


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sorry ppl but a repy to something thats totally irrelevant to this thread.
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 31 2008, 01:03 PM)
rampage seems to give quite a good range of gtl, may be that what i need for my e2220 to break ghz with lower voltage....the bloody chip default pll voltage is so high

hrm.... may be i should try rampage bios too.....may be i'll consult cstkl1 later when i got time.... so many work pile up late, need to find more time to play with my maximus.

bokbeng, not many p5e user around here i guess
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look at iriz posting in the quads..
he just flashed to rampage..
now 3.2ghz at 0.01v+ on stock voltages..
heck his nb voltage and fsb voltage also ridiculously low with the rampage bios.

best of all it was done with his mem at maximum bandwidth at trd 7.. which is easier to set on rampage bios.

so its definitely the way to go..


Added on March 31, 2008, 2:26 pm
QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 31 2008, 11:13 AM)
anybody wanna mail me their copy of ENGINEERING AFUDOS for back flashing ?? hehehehe tongue.gif
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http://www.tyan.com/tech/matrix_flashUtility.aspx

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post Apr 1 2008, 09:05 PM

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licyetan
u really increased the latencies
and then lowered the trd

so no diff on ure trd... heck might be even worse ..
the reason is the following

and sishh this is the default
and u went much more looser than this
write to precharge delay = 12
write to read delay = 9
and the one thats really bad..
all to precharge delay default is 3.. by putting 6.. ure latencies and bandwidth just took a hit..
so ure 1100 mhz just for show dude..

dont even want to ask whats ure

bank delays are.. surely atrocious.

write to read
read to read and write to write.
for asus mobo is denoted with (D)
default should be 5 for write to read
and the others is 6...
but u can easily make all of them either 5-5-5- or 5-4-5 ( 4 for read to read bank delay)
run a everest bandwidth test.. and watch ure latencies on mem and L2.

the asus mem settings are already tight..

u just need to change the trd..
all to precharge delay just leave it

and the bank delays advice to leave it at stock..

change the ai skew to strong.. and disable any from of t2 dispatch, static read etc..
it will intefere with the ai skew.

and hmm the reasoning for ure failure.. in overclocking
cause ure just testing very little mem..
try memtest.. with 2096 mb and heck even play avi file.. willing to bet it will hang.


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QUOTE(graphicp @ Apr 2 2008, 12:58 AM)
Sorry to sibuk bro. Seems like your transaction booster was enable. For better overclocking result, u should try disable the transaction booster to have better stability in your overclock.
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hmm depends bro on his strap..
but he is right licyetan.. disable it and set ure relax level to 0 or 1.. ( this is basically the control for trd's)

hmm wait looking at ure mobo trying to get the equivalent..
till today i dunno why asus cannot follow common set acronyms

set it at default.. its already tight.. dont change any of it..
theres no need.

AT sometimes nuts.. they dont mind higer bandwidth but take a hit on latencies..


Added on April 2, 2008, 1:44 amuser posted image

if i was u i'd use maximus timings.. but they should be the same..but ure mobo seems limited on ram options

the only performance difference u can get from this is the change of the

Write to write Delay(d)
read to read delay(d)
to 5..
anything lower it only good for benchies..

heck i use almost the same settings with my dfi.. since its optimal
except pissed off at DFI for taking off the tREF.. since its abysmal on the dfi

end of the day.. if do bandwidth test.. the dfi cannot beat the maximus..
mainly because of the tref.

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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 8 2008, 01:28 PM)
just manage to get my hand on asus p5e3 premium wifi n edition..

still has no time to play with it..

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dude ure having problem with ure card is it??

very sure its the card thats making the board not to boot??


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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 8 2008, 02:26 PM)
no prob.. here is the 3dmark06 result with everything at default..

Intel C2D E6850
Asus P5E3 Premium
Sapphire HD 3870X2
2gb HyperX ddr3 gb
PC Power n Cooling 750w

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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 8 2008, 02:52 PM)
well just disable the expressgate in the bios smile.gif
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ah non just that heard that somebody called cycom and said got issue..
so thought it was u..

anyway good stuff.


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post Apr 8 2008, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 8 2008, 03:05 PM)
it's a issue indeed.. u cant oc bcoz if oc fail or not stable, need to reset the bios and the expressgate is automatically enable. what for buying this good oc board just to run at stock ? tongue.gif

btw yeah it's me who called them. i wanna find solution for it. either return the x2 for sthing else or return the p5e3 premium back and change with other ddr3 board? hope they can do sthing for me..  thumbup.gif
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eh the expressgate..
u can erase it..

its just a linux system.


did it last time for the m2n32esli.

dude explain this
"u cant oc bcoz if oc fail or not stable, need to reset the bios "

well if unstable of course u need to reset..

and it cant be.. this board now holds most of the world records.


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QUOTE(RahXeph0n @ Apr 12 2008, 04:08 AM)
I know the P5N-D sucks  blush.gif

Wondering how would I know if I need to raise voltage for NB and stuff, and what voltages to set them to. Currently only raised vcore and a vdimm for the rams (2x 2gb now at 1.9v,  5-5-5-18 for stability).

E8400 proc, at 3915 mhz (435x9) at 1.32volts-bios (1.25-1.26v on load) but when I leave OCCT on mix running for a few hours I come back and my pc is frozen. Same with prime95 on blend, though that froze in 15 minutes. Program didn't terminate or prompt error, but the screen is frozen. Only can push reset button  doh.gif

However, the pc doesnt freeze when I do prime95 small fft for over an hour. And orthos doesnt freeze or return any errors too (so far 1 hour on priority 8).
What should I do? Memtest 1000%?
Raise vcore?
Anything else?
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it could be anything for freeze..

could be vcore vs nb vs vtt vs mem voltages..

and it could even be cause one of them is overvolted etc...

recently a forumer came and asked me about my striker formula 2 clocks.. same i spent nearly a month with my e8400 on p35's and x38's so didnt take me long for the 780 board..
theres no clear define way or shortcuts... know thy board and then know that proc...

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QUOTE(aLWAYStHEsAME @ May 21 2008, 01:43 AM)
Any Striker Formula II user here??
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yup..
and nattan also..

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i can tell u guys right now..
keep ure p35's
and maybe think about p45 maybe way way later on..

end of the year or something
tested two boards and find them faulty with all the bios.. beta/public/engineer..


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y bro .. u keep asking that..

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hopefully u got some D9GMh's

so far all the p45s i tested just loves d9's

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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Jul 5 2008, 05:39 PM)
About VDroop, it depends on the Voltage that you set. For my case (Rampage formula), when I set the voltage to 1.5125, I didn't see any vdroop at all. However, when I set voltage to 1.5000, it will has 0.01 to 0.005 vdroop.
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loadline calibration doesnt work that way
use a vmm to check

on load.. voltage increase instead of decrease

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A lot of ppl Been asking me how to clock the asus striker 2 formula to 500fsb
will show u a pic and u can follow the voltages from there..
and then adjust the rest of the setting as u go

Hardware
Intel E8400
Striker 2 Formula
OCZ ReaperX PC2-8000 2x2gb
Leadtek 9800GX2

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QUOTE(naTTan @ Jul 7 2008, 08:26 PM)
Thx i was getting BSOD pushing it around those numbers. Anyway any help on NB and CPU gtel ref range? Not sure how to set it.


Added on July 7, 2008, 8:26 pmOh yeah is this possible with air cooling ?
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not going to make everything easy for u..
kekek sorry nothing personal

but i spoon fed a few ppl in lyn .. and they turn out to be idiots..
so stopped doing that already

yes u can do this with air..

the clocks above was done with gigabyte 3d mercury galaxy case which has a inbuilt watercooling kit
i would say the performance is about the same as IFX 14 air cooler but not as noisy

just use the nb and fsb voltage

the pll voltage.. hmm thats a debate.. actually 1.5v stable..
but once like in a blue moon .. my ram bandwidths like flutters
found that changing that stablize is somewhat..

also the vcore i increased it a bit around 0.03v...
reason cause of loadline...

again for my proc is stable at 1.28v.. but because of loadline.. i increase it for stability for idle.. since the temps were low already

have fun guys..
i still find the striker formula 2 a fantastic overclocking board even compared to my maximus 2 formula
this is a really good board..


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loadline doesnt harm ure cpu...
raja.. anandtech fella.. first oppose of it..
and then guess what on all the other boards after that he was clocking with it...

sishh
no corruption problem at all..
actually never had it from the beginning..maybe cause every setting i entered manually??


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