i dun earn as much as u guys..
but i just wanna learn and work oni...
up until now...

I suppose if you want help on how to move ahead you can always ask here and people will offer advice.

How much of target income just depends on ownself ^^
Every ppl got own satisfaction.
That's is no limitation for a ppl choice or target =)

target how much to save better.

Not learning how to save money, but learning how to financial =)

so sad got this kind of thread.

i made 25k this month so how? i'm 28yrs old, i've a colleague who earns more than 0.5mil a yr less than 30yrs old too. Learn to be financial independent is more important. It is not how much you make it is how much you save every month. I do not need a BMW to show off, if i can buy one property a yr i would be financially independent before i hit 45yrs old.

what is your profession?

Real estate related. what do you do?

Robert Kiyosaki "Rich Dad Poor Dad" reader?

It's even worse when there are people who claims that earning 10k per month is normal.
If earning money is that easy I'll be earning quite a number of zeros right now

There are no "normal" or "abnormal" for income 10k when reach 30 yr old, just depends on u think "can" or "cannot".

If someone dun even think he may get 10k income per month when reach 30, that's already put a deadline to his limit .
How can the guy will will earn 10k or more when reach 30? (Except the big supprise as lottery or something else.)

How much a human can go for and how much a human can do, it's unlimited. Just depends on dare to try ort not.

P/s : my english not well... any language prob, pls fix for me. Thx.

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 5 2008, 03:27 AM

fren, when they say NORMAL - they meant for the AVERAGE person.

10k is certainly not your average income at 30.

http://www.trainpro.com.my/IT_Salary_Report_MY.pdf (PDF file)
http://www.payscale.com/research/MY/Country=Malaysia/Salary a 30yr old would fall under the 5-9 year section, comes to around 6.5k on average.

almost everyone is aiming to earn more than 10k at 30 - however positions that quality for such level of pay aren't many. so definitely it's not your average people income level, many can't even get there at 40.



no one in this world is unlimited.

every individual has their limitation.. education level is a limitation. communication skills is a limitation. language is a limitation. PR is a limitation. contacts is a limitation.

sometimes even gender becomes a limitation.

This is my first post, and i register this account just to post my comment here

First, before i advance my comment, i have a little question, all lady want to be treat fair from the age ago, they claim they can do anything a guy can do, since we (male/female) are in same position, when you expected ur husband earn more than 10k/month....

How much you(to all lady) can earn for a month? 10k/month? 15k/month?

Since we are in same position, why guy must responsible for whole family expense while the wife sitting in the house? baby sitting? house maintaining? Please lar, i hire a baby sitter or a cleaning maid SPECIAL FOR MY FAMILY also dun need so much money.

i spent night reading through this tread and i found out, only male who post and claim they earn more than 15k/month, but how about the ladies?

If this is a fair world, dun expect something cant even do by urself, dun depend on ur husband, depend urself

2nd, with little sense and report from goldfries, i would say
"earning more than 10k/month at age of 30 is very very difficult in malaysia"

narrow your thinking area, how many position in a company will offer more than 10k/month? not much right?

being a business man? be a boss? if you a business man/boss, will you offer ur employee 15k/month to work for you?

If 10k/month is easy, i wont see any bus operating on the street anymore. I would say for those who really can earn 15k/month, you are freaking GOOD, HARDWORKING, and maybe LUCKY.

3rd, This tread totally make me feel hopeless to get marry.
why? cause i know whenever i face problem in my financial problem maybe like age of 35-40, my wife will leave me away, as somebody out there stated this is RIGHT for lady.

review some history, those share market or any political decision can totally turn the country upside down, no one know what will come tomorrow, saving always safer than income, anyone who hungry want to eat right away and cant wait till next month, right?

if this is what a marriage mean, i would rather to be single, at least it enough for me to use (always).
i can clubbing out there anyway, even open a club/pun/disco myself
marry for baby? marry for the loved one?
i could spend my night with choice of lady in the club (it sound dirty, but its true)

i rather to be single if this is what the marriage mean for a lady......upgrade for lady,burden for mister

4th, Income VS Happiness
This world is fair, the more income you earn, you being require more time, skill, knowledge, specialty from the source, why would anyone pay you just because you are age of 30 or you could not afford ur family.

High income does not mean Higher enjoyment
-Do you feel extra happy when you have steak 3 time a day rather than normal bowl of curry noodle?
-Do you feel extra happy when you live in a large house which can fit a garden?
-Do you feel extra happy when you when you having a diamond ring on your finger?

No!! right? The most popular scene in most drama/movie inside the rich family is children fighting each other for parent property, haha?

If we the human being is helpless, lets hear what the god say, Once i been taught by a priest, what is the most common sad thing for people nowaday

-People turn health into gold when they young, but turn gold into health when they old (understand it urself)

Still think income is the most priority? Think it again when you laid on the bed hoping all ur money can extend ur life with pills.

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Added on April 5, 2008, 8:15 amBut in other way, for myself as a guy, feeling so stress and fear for future, really.

Fearing that i cant survive my future family, cant protect my love one.
I always think this is the responsible for man, its happy to see the love one smile.

in those romantic scene we always admire, husband wash his car , wife cooking in the kitchen, children play around.
Is this simple dream can only achieve with this high demand of income?

God said, we forged by him, we are what we are, who already decide by the god.
I will try my best, for everything, but i wont blame myself for not achieving the high requirement.

I will feel sad if my wife treat me as a money machine
I will feel sad if my wife never appreciate what i tried for her
I will feel sad if my wife think i not love her base on my income
I will feel sad if my wife request something which i cant afford, never weighting my capability

I will feel kill myself, if my wife is this kind of lady.

Which kind of man impress you?
- A guy simply have many zero in his account
- A guy still working hard to earn you a better life

dun judge your man with their income, judge them by how fast they fall asleep when they return from work
how much they worry upon their sicked children, but not how much they pay for hospital expense.
Seeing your father outside of the school door,are always happy than a stack of money on the table.

I do understand girl want to protect them self, as many previous history can be seen.
But do you really understand why the old days, woman life are control by their husband?

They rely on their husband salary, their income, thats why!!

The best way to protect your self is not choosing a right man, or jump between man to man.
You!! are the only one who 100% trust worthy. If you afraid of any betray from your man.

Control your man with your income, its same as you surrendering yourself to your husband income.

Dun angry with guys who hide their mistress outside, it will be the same as you choose to leave your husband when they have financial problem. Man maybe doing for love, entertainment but lady are doing purely for money.

So far i know, in japan, husband and wife swapping their position are normal, dun be shame if your salary is lower that your wife, work harder to let she know, you never give up to prove her your will to protect her.

What is life? Life is yours, you own it, you decide what your life will be.
dun waste it just to follow what have been told, what that people say "you should".
as long as you happy with your life, why bother to get more trouble?

perodua kancil make you feel shame? Only ride on BMW?
i would give my parent more money rather to show off a BMW to friends or society.

Financial planning are always important than income, you cant own all the gold.
But you can always make your life beautiful with the money you have.
Human desire should not be a greed, its only a target, which make you useful of your life.

For Ladies
I not offending the ladies here, i just wish to share my opinion, to tell you
how to evaluate a good husband, sacrifice everything try not to let it go away. Dun feel afraid of sacrificing for your loved one, as your husband will also scare to sacrifice for you.

Why should they buy a set of SK2, while you not even cook him a meal?
(how many % girl are actually know house keeping and cooking or even child caring? result came out when i visit houses most of my female friend in the university, lol)


For Guys
For guys, try not to care the discussion here, its pointless, its only show how greedy a woman could.
They will cry when their husband finally tired with their endless desire, thats when the mistress come in or they bend their head to become a mistress for other when get old.
As long as you tried your best, you can raise your head and tell every body what you did, and you did the best.

Every man died, but not every man truly live

dun waste ur life as a slave of money and wife

This post has been edited by ShadowSongz: Apr 5 2008, 08:16 AM

TRUE! TRUE!

yeah...me too... i'm slaving away but earning peanuts if compared to 10k

never a truer words have been said

bravo to shadowsongz too... bottom line - dun expect something you're not willing to do 1st!!!

i agree..it's unfair for the guys..
plus, the guys will have all sorts of excuses if they're the one earning while we stay at home

Good essays

Base on the comment above, I've decided to post another new topic --> How much should a girl earns per month? To be fair on both sides... Feel free to drop by and vote fairly. TQ

"I'm doing this for our family planning"... if you care enough to call it as OUR FAMILY; then the contribution shall come from both of you NOT only from him. So don't put too much of pressure on him... as a wife or part of the family both husband and wife shall help each other.

Haha I guess u didn't read thru all my posts, I nv said tat I'm goin to depend solely on him or pressure him in either way, of coz I'll continue my work even after married (although my income will be much much lesser than him since he might be promoted to senior manager next year with basic of 14K, whereas I'm just earning 6.5K ) I'll contribute by helping him taking care of kids(while pursuing my freelance job), to plan, to invest and to save