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post Apr 3 2008, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 3 2008, 10:43 PM)
yes but evry person hve their own perspective..
let see the picture :
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refer the picture above,what do u think?which one better?
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i know wat u mean... if u apply both way nicely then it will still end up nearly the same spread after u pressured it... the trick is on how much u apply it... tongue.gif... u can carry out both ways of applying tims and make a test and let us know here..... but remember to be consistant for both way of apply...

there are afew ways to do it actually... refer here
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post Apr 3 2008, 11:01 PM

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why need to transfer the heat through 3 pipes?
why not just transfer the heat directly to each heatpipe..
if we compare both cond A & B .. logically in cond B the tim usage are less than tim in cond A..but its all depends


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post Apr 3 2008, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 3 2008, 11:01 PM)
why need to transfer the heat through 3 pipes?
why not just transfer the heat directly to each heatpipe..
if we compare both cond A & B .. logically in cond B the tim usage are less than tim in cond A..but its all depends
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i've edited my previous post with added link
okay here is my point of view,
1. applying tim on every single heatpipe as u mention is not 100% sure the paste wont spread and touch the next heatpipe paste.... unless u are very accurate....(take off ur HSF and see after few days and see the spread of ur paste)

2. if u can achieve the no.1 then u must be sure the paste is spread along 3 heatpipe and have divider in between them, about 1.5mm only.. which is difficult to do it after u pressured it onto CPU.......(take off ur HSF and see after few days and see the spread of ur paste)

3. my own logical thiking on "why need to transfer the heat through 3 pipes?" its to best optimise all 3 heatpipe usage.... as we know processor die inside is not as big as the whole IHS, and the heat from the die is not even across the whole IHS, so if u do that divider thggie for 3 heatpipe.... im very sure the mid heatpipe will be hotter compared to the side 1 due to the arrangement of cores inside the processor. Then the side will be cooler.... this is not very efficient...... for example 3 heatpipe.... 50'c | 65'c | 50'c.... not very efficient..

So if all 3 heatpipe are link then at least the hotter section can spread the heat to the side heatpipe which is cooler to cool it down.... for example 54'c | 58'c | 54'c... more efficient

all above stated is just my personal logic thinking and no fact proven..... i might be wrong

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post Apr 3 2008, 11:49 PM

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great explanation there vincent...

imo condition B is better but after seeing what they did from http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=549530, one can apply the compound and use a flat thing like a ruler or blade to spread it until the compound looks flat then only install the HSF... i think that idea is good too but it may waste a lil compound... dont u all think so??
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post Apr 3 2008, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 3 2008, 11:49 PM)
great explanation there vincent...

imo condition B is better but after seeing what they did from http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=549530, one can apply the compound and use a flat thing like a ruler or blade to spread it until the compound looks flat then only install the HSF... i think that idea is good too but it may waste a lil compound... dont u all think so??
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yap it is a good way, make sure u have apply equal thin/flat surface.... this is the traditional way of applying paste i guess... coz last time i used to do this with Intel stock cooler... after reading some guide of applying paste then i change my way... applying on middle of the processor and use pressure to spread the paste.... then now with xigma is this..

here we have a great guide on installing spring and screw guide..... to get best pressure between ur HSF and IHS without spoiling ur mobo (bend).. the theory applies to all S&S Kit...
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=16

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post Apr 4 2008, 12:08 AM

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after go through all reference n discussion with u
i see both way have their own advantage..
either horizontal or parallel this cooler are perform well..
got people achieve best performance wif horizontal way..
and mine as my previous result using the other method
thanks for ur time vincentlaw

edit : next time i pinjam ur mx2 ya.. joke

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post Apr 4 2008, 12:11 AM

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maybe the performance is more or less the same la... at most i think 1c or so diff only la... too bad i malas to take out and do it all over again...

fesick, maybe u could do it... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 4 2008, 12:15 AM

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yoohh..plssss..even the sskit make it easier to install..
i dont think i`ll re-do it again..after arrange all my cable so nice edi..
later la..hehe
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post Apr 4 2008, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 4 2008, 12:08 AM)
after go through all reference n discussion with u
i see both way have their own advantage..
either horizontal or parallel this cooler are perform well..
got people achieve best performance wif horizontal way..
and mine as my previous result using the other method
thanks for ur time vincentlaw

edit : next time i pinjam ur mx2 ya.. joke
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go get Tuniq TX-2 lor... my next target paste after mx-2 finish... prove to have same capability as MX-2 or even better with about ~40% price cheaper from MX2.... RM20 vs RM35 tongue.gif... maybe u can get urself 1...

u dont need to take off the cable la... just take off ur xigma thats all... tongue.gif

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post Apr 4 2008, 12:26 AM

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ya i know..but the fan cable i tie it together with other cable..
thats why lazy..haha
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post Apr 4 2008, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 4 2008, 12:18 AM)
u dont need to take off the cable la... just take off ur xigma thats all... tongue.gif
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AGREED laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyway vincent y dont u just go get a TX-2 and run the test... since u did so much for this thread edi.... a lil more wont harm right.... tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 4 2008, 12:28 AM)
AGREED laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

anyway vincent y dont u just go get a TX-2 and run the test... since u did so much for this thread edi.... a lil more wont harm right....  tongue.gif laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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ya loorrr vmad.gif vincent..u the thread starter..go get ur tuniq now..hehe

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 4 2008, 12:28 AM)
AGREED laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

anyway vincent y dont u just go get a TX-2 and run the test... since u did so much for this thread edi.... a lil more wont harm right....  tongue.gif laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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lol im quite bz with my life recently... im still a student.. hehe uni student..... recently alot of project need to finish up especially that tough microprocessor... haha..... additionally final exam is coming soon.... maybe will do it next weekafter i settle down with my project....

TX-2 is a confirm get when i got go down to imbi... tongue.gif.. but i dont think the temp will be affected alot.... both MX-2 and TX-2 have strong debatable performance but interm of price... TX-2 stand out alot.... thats why my next 1 is TX-2.... but MX-2 still have abour 40%... zzzzzz

any1 wanna sponsor me the Tuniq TX-2? drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 4 2008, 12:38 AM)
lol im quite bz with my life recently... im still a student.. hehe uni student..... recently alot of project need to finish up especially that tough microprocessor... haha..... additionally final exam is coming soon....  maybe will do it next weekafter i settle down with my project....

TX-2 is a confirm get when i got go down to imbi... tongue.gif.. but i dont think the temp will be affected alot.... both MX-2 and TX-2 have strong debatable performance but interm of price... TX-2 stand out alot.... thats why my next 1 is TX-2.... but MX-2 still have abour 40%... zzzzzz

any1 wanna sponsor me the Tuniq TX-2?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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bro, u can afford to buy mx-2 edi what... tx-2 only rm22 including postage la... dont eat 3 meal i think can buy edi lo...

btw im also student la... college student to be exact... haha
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guys, i u need ppl to test the scenario on xigmatek s1283? btw, going to cod with lehteck this evening...so which scenario u guys want me to test on my e6420?
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Mar 17 2008, 02:46 AM)
here's is my red scorpion set up.

thank god is fits vertically on my mars sweat.gif

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Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 3 2008, 10:43 PM)
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Apr 4 2008, 07:58 AM)
guys, i u need ppl to test the scenario on xigmatek s1283? btw, going to cod with lehteck this evening...so which scenario u guys want me to test on my e6420?
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bro, try out scenario A..... see how is the temp but its hard to compare la unless u did both condition with ur spec... unless some one has exactly the same spec with u and did condition B....

but if u want, feel free to try out both condition and run some test and see how is the temp like... and pls post some screens too.... laugh.gif


QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM)
Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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dont worry la bro.... the xigmatek will fit just nice... so what are u waiting for... faster go get 1 la.... laugh.gif
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bro ham_revilo,fyi all my previous test are same as condition A..
only the latest test are using condition B..
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM)
Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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gud to hear dat.mine need to twist it.cannot installed it like dat.so pc still sweat.gif
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM)
Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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hahaha seem ko nak join kitaorang guna xigmatek gak ker mara hehehehe.............

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