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post Mar 25 2008, 09:38 AM

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I guess the gap between these 4 pipes is reduce, it maybe located nearer to each other if compared with 3 pipes line up.....
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post Mar 25 2008, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 25 2008, 09:38 AM)
I guess the gap between these 4 pipes is reduce, it maybe located nearer to each other if compared with 3 pipes line up.....
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sure it will... but after reduce.. u think the reduction can fit in 1 more 8mm heatpipe?? hmmm i think can half only lor... lets do some simple calculation.. 8mm x 4 = 32mm.. and assume the gap between heatpipe is 1mm only... means 3mm.. total 35mm.... wats the dimension of processor heatsink which connected to the base of cooler ah?? not 35mmx 35mm so big rite...

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post Mar 25 2008, 02:55 PM

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they are preparing it to be used on future octa-core proc doh.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 25 2008, 02:55 PM)
they are preparing it to be used on future octa-core proc  doh.gif laugh.gif
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i think octa-core the dimension of the proc will be the same... isnt it??

imo the 4 pipe is because of the competitor of other brand cooler always uses 4 pipes... and 4 pipes are usually always more efficient compare to 3 pipes... so i guess that is y they create a new 4 pipe just to compete with other brands only.... and most importantly make money out of us... laugh.gif sweat.gif

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post Mar 25 2008, 04:18 PM

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juz finish installing my red scorpy ....haih...i install da fan first before install da screw kit....big mistake! wasting almost 1/2 hour to cabut the fan back..screw it. to mobo and...and assemble fan back

btway..quite an improvement...i forgot to check temp before...but before this afaik... at 3.6ghz..my cpu temp in load is 69...now afta quick oc[havent tune it yet] at 4ghz....its around 64-65...

02:14:10 03/04/08 3600.06 70 70
02:14:11 03/04/08 3600.06 69 69

now

15:58:34 03/25/08 3996.04 65 65
15:58:35 03/25/08 3996.04 64 64

btway temperature above is during load...




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post Mar 25 2008, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 25 2008, 04:01 PM)
i think octa-core the dimension of the proc will be the same... isnt it??

imo the 4 pipe is because of the competitor of other brand cooler always uses 4 pipes... and 4 pipes are usually always more efficient compare to 3 pipes... so i guess that is y they create a new 4 pipe just to compete with other brands only.... and most importantly make money out of us...  laugh.gif sweat.gif
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8core might have a bigger contact area with heatsink.... but the processor size will be the same.... just steel area of the heatsink will be bigger... anyway just a might only acording to commonsense..

other brand is using 4 heatpipe but not 8mm..... if 8mm also not direct touch.... without direct touch u can put as many heatpipe as u can since the heat transfer thru the copper bast to heatpipe.... but direct heatpipe touch (HDT) is a more efficient heat transfer...

the question im wondering here is whether the 4x 8mm heatpipe can FULLY directly touch with processor anot....

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post Mar 25 2008, 04:25 PM

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dont know what to say..
even a quad processor i never test yet.. laugh.gif
anyway guys,hve u see anyone sell the smallrubber thingy?
the one that we use to hold-up the fan..lazy to do by own.. laugh.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 25 2008, 04:25 PM)
dont know what to say..
even a quad processor i never test yet..  laugh.gif
anyway guys,hve u see anyone sell the smallrubber thingy?
the one that we use to hold-up the fan..lazy to do by own..  laugh.gif
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try ask ckhoong... he mention b4 that IF the antivibration rubber broken then tell him... so i guess he got sell or spare for replacement or sumthg.... anyway no harm asking..


Added on March 25, 2008, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Mar 25 2008, 04:18 PM)
juz finish installing my red scorpy ....haih...i install da fan first before install da screw kit....big mistake! wasting almost 1/2 hour to cabut the fan back..screw it. to mobo and...and assemble fan back

btway..quite an improvement...i forgot to check temp before...but before this afaik... at 3.6ghz..my cpu temp in load is 69...now afta quick oc[havent tune it yet] at 4ghz....its around 64-65...

02:14:10 03/04/08 3600.06  70  70 
02:14:11 03/04/08 3600.06  69  69

now

15:58:34 03/25/08 3996.04  65  65 
15:58:35 03/25/08 3996.04  64  64

btway this is during load...
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what about the temp reading by using coretemp software? how long u stress it??? at least 15mins?

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post Mar 25 2008, 04:33 PM

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act..that was from the coretemp log file [Temp log.txt]


btway.here its[its quick 10 min stress..gonna to stress it tonight...]

Attached Image

nywya one thing i notice...the fan is so silent...

my idle temp around 44-45

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post Mar 25 2008, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 25 2008, 04:24 PM)

other brand is using 4 heatpipe but not 8mm..... if 8mm also not direct touch.... without direct touch u can put as many heatpipe as u can since the heat transfer thru the copper bast to heatpipe.... but direct heatpipe touch (HDT) is a more efficient heat transfer...

the question im wondering here is whether the 4x 8mm heatpipe can FULLY directly touch with processor anot....
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u have a point there ... i guess maybe the idea is to get the rest of the heatpipes that didnt touch the IHS to actually conduct a lil bit of heat away from those heatpipes that are touching the IHS unsure.gif hmm.gif

thus, this will allow the heat transfer away from the proc a lil faster ...this way it will make sense for teh increment of 10-15% performance right? hmm.gif


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10-15% is alot man.
it's 3 degree Celcius out of 20 degree Celcius. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 25 2008, 06:01 PM)
u have a point there ...  i guess maybe the idea is to get the rest of the heatpipes that didnt touch the IHS to actually conduct a lil bit of heat away from those heatpipes that are touching the IHS unsure.gif  hmm.gif

thus, this will allow the heat transfer away from the proc a lil faster ...this way it will make sense for teh increment of 10-15% performance right?  hmm.gif
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hmm not very agreed... if they wanna do as what u said... they can just use 3x 8mm heatpipe and branching from the 3 heatpipes. Thier purpose for 4 HDT is to direct touch to IHS but i doubt current processor can fully contact with 4 HDT...

AMD proc is more advantage in this situation since thier contact area with heatsink is much larger...... not now for Intel, maybe in future...
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 25 2008, 06:10 PM)
10-15% is alot man.
it's 3 degree Celcius out of 20 degree Celcius. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 25 2008, 06:21 PM)
hmm not very agreed... if they wanna do as what u said... they can just use 3x 8mm heatpipe and branching from the 3 heatpipes. Thier purpose for 4 HDT is to direct touch to IHS but i doubt current processor can fully contact with 4 HDT...

AMD proc is more advantage in this situation since thier contact area with heatsink is much larger...... not now for Intel, maybe in future...
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just a noob guess actually tongue.gif tongue.gif blush.gif


@vincent
well if according to what u say, then it means this is made for AMD? didnt realise that amd proc has bigger contact before u say this notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 25 2008, 06:21 PM)
hmm not very agreed... if they wanna do as what u said... they can just use 3x 8mm heatpipe and branching from the 3 heatpipes. Thier purpose for 4 HDT is to direct touch to IHS but i doubt current processor can fully contact with 4 HDT...

AMD proc is more advantage in this situation since thier contact area with heatsink is much larger...... not now for Intel, maybe in future...
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intel non native quad/multi core and larger sized cpu die's would benefit from the 4x heatpipes.

maybbe even phenom quad/tri core, since their cpu die size is so damned big icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 10:05 PM

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hmm seems would be not and advantage for intel quad core to be used with a 4 HDT
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post Mar 26 2008, 12:01 AM

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Dun judge it so fast... maybe it really can touch the 4 pipes with the proc, then u can imagine the heat transfer is how fast =).... well let juz hope this cooler perform well and it wont burn our pocket too deep.. haha... i hope to give a try on it... admire it once i saw it =P
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q6600@3.0 (8x375) vcore 1.275
OCT 30mins stress test

previous cooler .. scythe ninja
max temp 65 64 61 61

using red scorpion
max temp 61 59 57 57

significant improvement over the ninja .. smile.gif

sorry .. didnt take any screen shots tongue.gif
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post Mar 26 2008, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 26 2008, 01:17 AM)
q6600@3.0 (8x375) vcore 1.275
OCT 30mins stress test

previous cooler .. scythe ninja
max temp 65 64 61 61

using red scorpion
max temp 61 59 57 57

significant improvement over the ninja .. smile.gif

sorry .. didnt take any screen shots tongue.gif
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nice improvement there... anyway do take some screen shot when u can...

btw this test was done in room temp or air cond??

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post Mar 26 2008, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 26 2008, 02:19 AM)
nice improvement there... anyway do take some screen shot when u can...

btw this test was done in room temp or air cond??
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room temp .. no aircond .. smile.gif
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well not bad temps reading ur getting there QiW.... room temp lagik

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