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leonard73
post May 31 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 31 2014, 03:35 PM)
Same doctor with same sickness.
And my wife got extra service compare to her room mate, she always got sms from the doctor, on offering new checkup package.
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Sounds like your wife is a good potential customer than those who use medical card. rclxms.gif
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post May 31 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ May 31 2014, 04:09 PM)
Sounds like your wife is a good potential customer than those who use medical card. rclxms.gif
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She had medical card before that's getting sms.
Now we cancel already no more sms from that doctor, expected from a person that's heart is animal.
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post Jun 5 2014, 07:15 PM

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supersound,
just curious. so what plan are you on (if any)? do you still have insurance?

btw, my Etiqa friend replied already.
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post Jun 5 2014, 07:52 PM

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what he reply?
velthan
post Jul 3 2014, 05:48 PM

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Hi Insurance Expect,
Would like to know what I'm paying now worth for money or is there any better policy and should convert to add more value for what I'm paying for it.

Current Insurance AIA (previously know as ING)
Annual Limit RM100,000.00
Lifetime Limit RM300,000.00
Critical Cover 36 Illness = RM20,000.00
Hospital Income = RM100.00 PER DAY
DOF: 17/APRIL/1955.
Note: Claim medical for 2 times = due to low pressure.

Please advice or PM me.

Thanks


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post Jul 3 2014, 06:09 PM

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how much u pay per month?
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post Jul 3 2014, 07:50 PM

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Your annual limit is okay but not your lifetime limit. With the new medical plan, there are offering of no lifetime limit. My advice is don't forgo your current plan when you buy a new plan, as there is a waiting period. Susah if there is anything happen to you.
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post Jul 11 2014, 12:35 PM

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ok, im convinced now that AXA smart medic optimum + additional Tokio Marine medic plus is unbeatable. total about RM1100 yearly, for someone age 35. I don't get why have to pay RM250 monthly for some other providers.
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post Jul 11 2014, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jul 11 2014, 12:35 PM)
ok, im convinced now that AXA smart medic optimum + additional Tokio Marine medic plus is unbeatable. total about RM1100 yearly, for someone age 35. I don't get why have to pay RM250 monthly for some other providers.
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You need to read carefully on the tnc why the difference are there. Try to populate a table on coverage comparison and thereafter you can decide
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jul 11 2014, 12:35 PM)
ok, im convinced now that AXA smart medic optimum + additional Tokio Marine medic plus is unbeatable. total about RM1100 yearly, for someone age 35. I don't get why have to pay RM250 monthly for some other providers.
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QUOTE(ganesher85 @ Jul 11 2014, 01:16 PM)
You need to read carefully on the tnc why the difference are there. Try to populate a table on coverage comparison and thereafter you can decide
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RM1100 annually could be a standalone medical card. As genesher85 mention, better read carefully and know what you buying.
For standalone medical plan, the premium will increase gradually & will be very expensive when come to golden age. Of cause someone hidden clause that client may not notice.

For an Investment Link plan(ILP) at age 35, a comprehensive coverage with premium monthly RM250 is pretty common. Generally ILP offer comprehensive coverage, remain the same premium till the maturity and it come with cash value (saving).

The company and ILP will not survive in the competitive market, if it is the same as RM1100 plan as mentioned.

Just hope you understand there are totally a different product.

This post has been edited by conqu3ror: Jul 13 2014, 05:03 AM
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post Jul 11 2014, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Jul 11 2014, 03:58 PM)
RM1100 annually could be a standalone medical card. As genesher85 mention, better read carefully and know what you buying.
For standalone medical plan, the premium will increase every 5 years and will be very expensive when come to golden age. Of cause some hidden clause that client may not notice.

For an Investment Link plan(ILP) at age 35, a comprehensive coverage with premium monthly RM250 is pretty common. Generally ILP offer comprehensive coverage, remain the same premium till the maturity and it come with cash value (saving).

The company and ILP will not survive in the competitive market, if it is the same as RM1100 plan as mentioned.

Just hope you understand there are totally a different product.
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bro ur insurance training not yet finished?

ILP medical card rider COI will not increase ?
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post Jul 11 2014, 10:45 PM

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Hi, my insurance agent from great eastern told me about a new plan they have, which will need me to upgrade my current medical card plan.

this upgrade will increase the annual limit and remove lifetime limit for the medical card while the rest of the thing remain the same, such as investment return and others..

is there any catch? this sounds to me like durian runtuh...

need advice pls
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post Jul 11 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 11 2014, 08:50 PM)
bro ur insurance training not yet finished?

ILP medical card rider COI will not increase ?
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Thanks for like me so much, every single post you eager to give your feedback.

I know you expert in insurance, what waste you don't join insurance industry.

This post has been edited by conqu3ror: Jul 13 2014, 05:01 AM
ganesher85
post Jul 12 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jul 11 2014, 10:45 PM)
Hi, my insurance agent from great eastern told me about a new plan they have, which will need me to upgrade my current medical card plan.

this upgrade will increase the annual limit and remove lifetime limit for the medical card while the rest of the thing remain the same, such as investment return and others..

is there any catch? this sounds to me like durian runtuh...

need advice pls
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No such thing as durian runtuh. Paying same premium but no lifetime limit? Only policy tnc can answer your question.
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post Jul 12 2014, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Jul 11 2014, 11:30 PM)
Thanks for like me so much, every single post you eager to give your feedback.

I know you expert in insurance, what waste you don't join insurance industry.

Do I ever mention ILP medical rider COI won't increase as well? Everything come with a cost.

I don't understand where is your logic and real motive?
I'm not your agent nor I don't even know you in person and do I step on your tail.  mad.gif
If you hate your agent so much, why sign up with him/her? Then now you can't find him/her any more and treat me as your revenge target? vmad.gif

If you hate Allianz so much, please terminate your policy, sign up with your beloved uncle Roy, not one will stop you.
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Do you finished your training bro?

If I show this statement to LIAM(If you hate Allianz so much, please terminate your policy), you will get warning letter. Do you know why you will receive the letter?
leonard73
post Jul 12 2014, 10:35 PM

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Mnet, That are most common insurance agent attitude by acting hard which is try to cover their weaknesses, divert question they can't answer, others plan better than theirs and etc.
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post Jul 15 2014, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Jul 11 2014, 03:58 PM)
RM1100 annually could be a standalone medical card. As genesher85 mention, better read carefully and know what you buying.
For standalone medical plan, the premium will increase gradually & will be very expensive when come to golden age. Of cause someone hidden clause that client may not notice.

For an Investment Link plan(ILP) at age 35, a comprehensive coverage with premium monthly RM250 is pretty common. Generally ILP offer comprehensive coverage, remain the same premium till the maturity and it come with cash value (saving).

The company and ILP will not survive in the competitive market, if it is the same as RM1100 plan as mentioned.

Just hope you understand there are totally a different product.
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It's good that you're reminding consumer to read carefully and spot the hidden clause thumbup.gif

Yes, you never mentioned anything about COI not increasing but when you never mentioned the increase of COI in ILP while comparing and promoting only the good point, that's the same as the so called hidden clause? There is a fine line between not telling and lie whistling.gif

I believe Mnet motive is to be as transparent as possible and share his knowledge since this is a forum discussion. notworthy.gif


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post Jul 15 2014, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jul 11 2014, 12:35 PM)
ok, im convinced now that AXA smart medic optimum + additional Tokio Marine medic plus is unbeatable. total about RM1100 yearly, for someone age 35. I don't get why have to pay RM250 monthly for some other providers.
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Apart from reading the tnc carefully, some medical cards are not guaranteed renewable, which means that should someday you admit to hospital with some prolonged type of illness, they may refuse to renew your medical card the next year. So, need to check this out.
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yep AXA smart medic optimum is general insurance not life insurance that why there is risk there
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post Jul 15 2014, 10:56 AM

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Please do not ASSuMe when it comes to insurance. It is all mentioned in the contract. Anyway, here is what I found.

<< Product Disclosure Sheet (PDS) >>

1. As someone mention Cheap, The Projected Costs of Insurance << << HERE >>

2. Policy Renewal/ Renewal Premium
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One thing about yearly renewable policy option is that if the product is withdrawn in accordance with the Portfolio Withdrawal Condition, the next year the policy cannot be renewed since the term is only up to one year.

It is not a problem if our health is still healthy to buy another policy, but if not, no insurer will want to insure/upgrade someone who had developed diabetes along the years.

In accordance with the Portfolio Renewal for the case of ING, since its withdrawal and the policy term is until age 85, AIA that took over is bound to renew the ING policy till age 85.

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