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post May 29 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Chica @ May 28 2014, 06:43 PM)
Hi,

after going through all the threads.. I'm still not clear about purchasing medical card.
Is it a good idea to buy stand alone or with another plan (my agent friend told me that it's advisable to buy investment link because it is renewable whereas a standalone might not be renewable). I read some threads that said medical cards are renewable. Which is the better option?

I'm looking to buy insurance for my mum with emphasis on the medical card. My budget is less than RM3k per annum and her location is in Sabah. She will be 60 this October.

I was interested in AIA but I  only found one agent in Sabah who was kaw2 trying to sell me investment link and using scaring tactic to get me to buy higher insurance amount. I didn't like her approach. My agent friend from Etika also busy with family and replies my queries sporadically. I feel frustrated with this situation. Can anyone give me a recommendation? Thanks a lot.
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Buy together with investment link are better, in terms of agent's profit margin. But for you, you may get something, like this year they target to make rm10 billion net profit from your money, even if they already rm9.99 billion also they will declare lost. So you won't get any return from that policy.
rm3000 per annum are wasting most of the agent's time, so is right for that AIA agent and your Etiqa friend did by not entertaining you.
BTW, medical card they are only making few % commission, so you do the maths.
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post May 29 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 28 2014, 10:46 PM)
why ur medical card is rm200 but can use rm249 room?
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Under private hospitals, when you show the medical card, cost will raise by 20-30% on the spot. But if you pay cash, it will be cheaper.
So, you have to know the room rates before buying any insurance, else better you stay in government hospitals.
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post May 29 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 29 2014, 08:05 AM)
Seem the calculation quite complex... But why still need to paid co-insurance when other company no need?

Could you explain what is the meaning of
"The takaful operator reserves the right to revise the maximum cap for cotakaful by giving at least 30 days prior written notice"
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If buying insurance are straight forward, then insurance company's each year net profit won't strike new high.
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post May 29 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 29 2014, 08:18 AM)
I'm quite regret to sign up Great Eastern few months ago. Especially when seeing this sentence in the policy.

The Company reserves the right to revise the maximum cap for co-insurance by giving at least 30 days prior written notice.

· Portfolio withdrawal condition - the Company reserves the right to cancel the SM portfolio as a whole if it decides to


I always think is just RM500 maximum of co-insurance and guarantee renewal...

Could any GE agent explain this to me??

I'm thinking to cancel the policy rather then in future GE revise and cancel the medical plan when I need the most.  mad.gif

Don't trust GE agents any more, they always try to hide something and divert the topic from client.
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Are you sure only GE will do like this only doh.gif
As far as I know, there's only 1 company that never state this, which is Carboost company whistling.gif
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post May 29 2014, 10:12 PM

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[quote=leonard73,May 29 2014, 11:00 AM]
c) There is a small death/tpd protection and projected cash return of RM32k+ but consider this as your bonus only. Want to invest, do it in an investment account.

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Does it stated in the policy for the tolerancy limits for the extra charges for the room to be covered?
Another question is, what or which private hospital I can stay with room & board rm200? Can I get a single room in prince court or Gleneagles & etc.? Can you state some for me or to others? smile.gif
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For the hospitals you stated, rm200 only entitle you to sleep at their basement parking rclxub.gif
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post May 29 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 29 2014, 01:21 PM)
No thanks...

New plan mean new charges and mean I need to paid more. Very good sales tectic.  vmad.gif

Seem no agent dare to answer to these question... doh.gif

The Company reserves the right to revise the maximum cap for co-insurance by giving at least 30 days prior written notice.
· Portfolio withdrawal condition - the Company reserves the right to cancel the SM portfolio as a whole if it decides to
WTH... GE could just cancel & revise the medical card as they like. I'm not sure how many victims had fall into these trap.

What is the meaning of protection where GE agent keep emphasize? shakehead.gif
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Do you really want all the agents that looking for water fish here openly admit to you that their company are cheating whistling.gif
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post May 29 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 29 2014, 01:31 PM)
Just curious, you feel ok if GE cancel you medical card when you need it the most? And don't mind to paid extra co-insurance when they asking? Or your aunt/agent will be paying those unnecessary extra cost which incur by GE? rclxub.gif

If yes, can I be your & your aunt friend? rclxms.gif
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All the insurance companies are still nego with BNM to strike off medical coverage, so sooner or later your medical card may be as light as your hair sweat.gif
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post May 29 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ May 29 2014, 02:10 PM)
Very true, out of millions I would say up till today still haven't meet one yet. lol

I would say insurance is one of the general knowledge must know rather than blaming to agents or insurance company.
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post May 29 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 29 2014, 06:13 PM)
why GE always come out with new medical card plan and at the same time withdraw the old plan from market?

why not they learn from other company? Just upgrade it not withdraw it from market
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Ever heard of Genneva whistling.gif
This is what GE are doing, launch new policies and dump old policies. This is another reason why I dump all insurance. Is not our money getting smaller, is the policy's value depreciate by it self every year doh.gif
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post May 30 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 29 2014, 11:03 PM)
NO SUCH THING

Argh... what's wrong with you? mind telling me which agent or which company pissed you off? i'm very curious now.

I know 99% of the agents out there don't mention all the hidden clauses.

But to be fair, majority of the normal people out there are very ignorant too. and i'm not saying about understanding the hidden clause. i'm just refering to just basically understand what your insurance policy can do. i know of people, who are educated and not stupid. but they are just ignorant.
My father was down with cancer. and because we can't afford to send him to private hospital and he doesn't have medical card... so... thank god for government hospital or the semi gov like UM UKM.

If you don't want insurance? it's ok, just burden your family members.

AND NOT SUCH THING as policy value depreciate every year. unless ILP, and you didn't pay. that's another story.
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When I bought GE, 2 Prudential agents approached me and said GE can void an insurance policy at any 1 time at their discretion while Prudential won't simply void. Even if Prudential void, I'm still covered as I'm covered based on the hard copy policy. So quickly I changed it.
After a year, then another Prudential approached me and keep on discriminating 1st agent's way of selling policies. My medical coverage are very low and he can change it for me. So my medical card's coverage increased.
When I want to do a small operation and apply to claim it, stated on the policy I can claim. But to my surprise, I can't claim unless I lost that part due to severe infection.
So at the end of day, paid close to rm12000 and I can't enjoy any benefit from it and I have to pay rm6000 by my own.
And a policy will depreciate by its own and not like you said. Room rates are higher over the years and the medical card can't cover full amount. Like for a rm200 monthly package, room rate only cover rm150. Just a simple private hospital's 4 bed sharing already rm250 just the bedthis year vs last year of rm220. Food are counted differently.
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post May 30 2014, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 30 2014, 07:50 PM)
Its written black and white the room charges.

Stop misleading people say if use medical card the room charges will increase
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Already happen to my wife before on this, so is a fact that all insurance agents will try to deny whistling.gif
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post May 31 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ May 31 2014, 02:10 PM)
Room & board rate won't simply because you show your medical card and any hospital will shown it on the reception counter or their website. Then if you allowed your wife medical card to be charged hire, it might means that you and your wife are ignorant about it.

I did use my medical card before but the bill never shown different rate or higher that stated on the room rate chart.
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Pay by cash and see how they charge. Even if the room rate never change, consultation fees also they will charge more. As long as you used 1 time medical card, the rate already different from you pay by cash.
All this info are discussed by my wife and her room mate when she was admitted.
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post May 31 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ May 31 2014, 03:31 PM)
Same doctor with same sickness? How we can be justify as each doctor have their own charges, same like servicing a benz and a proton car. I am not saying that you are wrong and I also believe there is a board of fees range charged per case. Example like lawyer, consultant, architect, doctor and others professional board.
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Same doctor with same sickness.
And my wife got extra service compare to her room mate, she always got sms from the doctor, on offering new checkup package.
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post May 31 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ May 31 2014, 04:09 PM)
Sounds like your wife is a good potential customer than those who use medical card. rclxms.gif
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She had medical card before that's getting sms.
Now we cancel already no more sms from that doctor, expected from a person that's heart is animal.

 

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