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conqu3ror
post Oct 4 2013, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(a-ei-a @ Oct 3 2013, 11:49 PM)
Any medical card recommendation for golden age? The fee should be quite high but please quote me:
1) 61, Male, non smoker
2) 56, Female, non smoker

What is the cheapest available? Prefer those 100% claimable, forget about those pay and end up can't claim.
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For investment link life insurance with medical card for these age is expensive. The premium is from RM400 and above for the basic medical plan.

Whether is claimable is depends any pre-existing illness and medical history and the underwriter. At these high risk stages, normally insurance company will require for pre-insure medical check up which the cost are bear by insurance company.

Hope this will give you some ideal about the cost. Let me know if you interest to know more.
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post Oct 4 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 4 2013, 04:58 PM)
any medical card can recommend?
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Maybe you can read this thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2980824

it will give you brief ideal about the medical plan from various company.

You can refer to my signature as below for Allianz Medical Plan.

Hope it help.
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post Jan 20 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 19 2014, 10:28 PM)
yep indeed is not so good plan.

GE? Need pay co-insurance

try search for allianz power link umcr more affordable no co-insurance
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The main reason we get medical card is protect ourselves against the heavy medical cost which above our expectation and we can afford. Investment part is just a adding value to it.

Allianz have no annual limit which mean, the individual can claim as high as 500k to 1mil(depends on plan) medical claim even within the year.
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post Feb 27 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(sbd18 @ Feb 27 2014, 04:53 AM)
Looking for medical card (with investment if possible) for AIA, Allianz & Prudential.

DOB: 3/7/79
IT Manager
Non smoker
Budget: 250 to 300 per month

Hope to get some quotes through the agents here.

Cheers...
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Hi with Allianz Medical Plan, the main benefit are

- No Overall Annual limit
- No Co-Insurance
- Coverage up to 91 years old with no additional cost
- Outpatient Treatment of accidents, cancer as well as kidney dialysis. (As Charge, No annual limit)
- Hassle-free hospital admission and discharge with your Medical Card (up to 42 Panel Hospitas in KL-Selangor)
- Upgrade of Room & Board every 2 years

PM me if interested.

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post May 14 2014, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ May 13 2014, 09:12 PM)
Is there any comprehensive list of medical card provider that we can referred to? I'm wondering whether there are a standalone medical card for parents (senior citizens - 60 and 62 years old) without the need to buy any insurance?  hmm.gif
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At the age of 60+, the medical card will quite expensive. Probably around RM3000++ annually, when reach 66, the cost will go to RM4000++

But the most important question is, do your parents still in well & healthy condition without any medical history?

Insurance company always realistic, only accept those which still strong and healthy.

We always think too early to get insurance, but we regret we didn't buy more in early days when we need the most.
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post May 16 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Dino168 @ May 15 2014, 07:06 PM)
Wandering if there is any medical insurance plan that can start with lowest coverage (when one is still covers by employer's medical insurance) but can increase coverage during retirement?  If there is such plan, insurance agent in Penang, please PM me.

Thanks.
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Good question. But when we need to upgrade, the first question always are our health condition still as last time, well & healthy?

I have a friend, she diagnosed with SLE last year, now she keep look around for upgrade medical card... too bad every insurance no longer accept her anymore.

If anyone know any of insurance medical plan still accept her, I can refer her to you.
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post May 27 2014, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(kherox @ Mar 12 2014, 10:51 AM)
Hi Guys

Looking for good agent in KL, i'm in Ampang area. Planning to get either insurance or just stand alone medical card for the whole family of 5pax. I've already had a quotation from Prudential, AXA so  maybe from AIA, Great Eastern etc.

Do PM me with your details and i will then share further info & details outside of the forum.
Thank you.
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QUOTE(prema2277 @ May 26 2014, 11:51 PM)
Hi there, I am looking for AIA or Tokio or Prudential agents for medical card quote. Pleasw private msg me and I will send my details. Thanks
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Ever consider for Allianz Medical Card?

It just as low as RM5 daily for age below 30. And you may have RM1mil of lifetime medical coverage.

Benefit of Allianz are
- No Overall Annual Limit (Never worry of not enough annual limit due to heavy medical cost)
- No Co-Insurance (Why need to pay the 10% when you can get full coverage)
- Coverage up to 91 without additional cost
- 42+ Cashless Panel Hospital in KL-Selangor, 100++ for Nationwide (Including 5 Star Hospital, Prince Court & Gleneagle)
- Treatment of accidents, cancer as well as kidney dialysis. (As Charge, No annual limit)

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post May 28 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2014, 07:58 PM)
buy ILP + Medical equivalent to buying 2 apple at RM1.80
buy standalone equivalent to buying 1 apple at RM1.00

i bought standalone medical for my mum. Also AIA. Renewable up to age 100. because my mum doesn't need life insurance. she has no dependent anymore. i believe the same goes to your mum.

BTW, yes, it can be less than 3k for now... by the time your mum reach >70... the premium is real expensive...

AIA has standalone medical. So does other life insurance companies. But these agents like to sell you Investment-Linked + Medical... 2 in 1. but insist on the standalone if you are keen. it's available... though agents may not promote that to you.

Insurance company will tell you that it's guaranteed renewable up to age 100 or something.

Just get it asap before she turns 60.

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You were right, it is very important to get it as soon as possible, due to the reason the person still strong and healthy.

But at the age 60, it is not easy to accept by insurance company anymore. Medical Insurance is not like shopping, when you have money, you can get as much as you need.

Standalone might be cheap, but be mindful of the hidden clause such as
"company have right to revise the plan" or
"reverse the right to cancel and withdraw the plan as a whole" or
"reserve the right to revise the maximum cap for co-insurance".


These had happen to some of my client who have older medical plan.
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post May 29 2014, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(everest @ May 29 2014, 02:13 PM)
My mother pays RM200 monthly for her insurance.
My question is
1. Does it mean she has to pay more money?
2. What is Clause 17 (Portfolio Withdrawal Condition)?
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Your mum having an old medical plan with Allianz since 2005, which not available any more. Due to inflation and increase of medical cost, the premium had increase, but Allianz also increase the annual limit and lifetime limit.
Anyway, it is after almost 10 years only announce to increase.

For the current medical plan have no annual limit, meaning insured can claim up to maximum life time limit in one time. This plan have not impacted by the increase.

Clause 17 (Portfolio Withdrawal Condition) had removed by Allianz. This is a good news, Allianz will not able to cancel and withdraw the medical plan, in directly now become genuine guarantee renewable.

If you notice some company still remain this clause to protect the company. Meaning they have the right to cancel/withdraw the medical plan from the insured = not guarantee renewable.

Please refer to your agent/Allianz for more detail info.

This post has been edited by conqu3ror: May 29 2014, 02:33 PM
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jul 11 2014, 12:35 PM)
ok, im convinced now that AXA smart medic optimum + additional Tokio Marine medic plus is unbeatable. total about RM1100 yearly, for someone age 35. I don't get why have to pay RM250 monthly for some other providers.
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QUOTE(ganesher85 @ Jul 11 2014, 01:16 PM)
You need to read carefully on the tnc why the difference are there. Try to populate a table on coverage comparison and thereafter you can decide
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RM1100 annually could be a standalone medical card. As genesher85 mention, better read carefully and know what you buying.
For standalone medical plan, the premium will increase gradually & will be very expensive when come to golden age. Of cause someone hidden clause that client may not notice.

For an Investment Link plan(ILP) at age 35, a comprehensive coverage with premium monthly RM250 is pretty common. Generally ILP offer comprehensive coverage, remain the same premium till the maturity and it come with cash value (saving).

The company and ILP will not survive in the competitive market, if it is the same as RM1100 plan as mentioned.

Just hope you understand there are totally a different product.

This post has been edited by conqu3ror: Jul 13 2014, 05:03 AM
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post Jul 11 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 11 2014, 08:50 PM)
bro ur insurance training not yet finished?

ILP medical card rider COI will not increase ?
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Thanks for like me so much, every single post you eager to give your feedback.

I know you expert in insurance, what waste you don't join insurance industry.

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post Jul 15 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(morning06 @ Jul 15 2014, 03:42 AM)
It's good that you're reminding consumer to read carefully and spot the hidden clause thumbup.gif

Yes, you never mentioned anything about COI not increasing but when you never mentioned the increase of COI in ILP while comparing and promoting only the good point, that's the same as the so called hidden clause? There is a fine line between not telling and lie  whistling.gif

I believe Mnet motive is to be as transparent as possible and share his knowledge since this is a forum discussion.  notworthy.gif
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Bro, you may right, I miss out the point. It is common that health risk is increase by age, so to the Cost of Insurance.

It just had so much to explain and I can't put in a single statement. Just a simple quotation is 20-40 pages.
Of cause it is agent job to educate their client, just it will spend hours to explain the everything from scratch.
Different client have different expectation, some they just want to know every single line like lawyer, some just want to know what they getting and the coverage only.

Now the trend is going towards ILP instead of Traditional Insurance Plan due to many advantage to it. You can check out my page as the link below.

This post has been edited by conqu3ror: Jul 15 2014, 01:56 PM

 

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