http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9x-49-...OO-70-2e6x.html
Is this one the one u want?

they did mentioned that, but im not sure if it applies to season2

so graham is either gay or it's some mecha rivalry thingy

graham: I love you setsuna..
setsuna: I fap to my gundam!!!..

Hmm, the lanced MS do look like Knightmare in Code Geass, but lance weapon did exist in Gundam before, if i'm not mistaken, used by most of Crossbone Vanguard MS in F91. The lance (if i'm not mistaken) are used to penetrate beam shield.

Those are called Shot Lancers. Crossbone Vanguard MSes use that to prevent any collateral damage to the civilians as beam weapons or even random shooting will damage the colony. I can't remember whether they used it to pierce beam shields in the movie, but theoretically it shouldn't be able to do so as the beam shield would cut the lance in half. Unless the shot lancers are coated with anti-beam coating then it might be possible.

maybe they equip lance for GN X so as to ripped through the GN Field like wat Setsuna did to Gold Gay MA!

Best Gundam AC??... Err I disagree.. I think Stargazzer is still better than gundam 00.. or TurnA

Episode 25..

Sighh Its just a rush ending.. Its like Bandai keep some of the chara alive for to long until they forgot to kill em earlier..

I dont see why they need to spend half of the show between CB vs Alenjdro MA.. If its not gonna help to conclude the show..

Seeing Alenjdro GM.. makes Lasse sacrifice less meaningful, They could have done it without the GM vs Gundam scene..

Graham is trullyyy WTFFFF... He got left out for nearly 5 episode, Just to do some kamikaze attack and dissapear.. Its like the director forgot about his Mod Overflag and decided to shove it in the last episode

Last and not least.. EARTH FEDERATION!! LOL WHUT!!.. What the f*** is this now Gundam 00 is shaping the world to Mobile Suit Gundam??..

Lemee guess then eventually CB will rape EF and EF will fight CB until they are poor.. When they are poor then they force to people who in space to give more for Earth.

Then eventually some space people will get fed up then will form "ZEON" since the last battle CB vs EF, EF lost all their MS technology so no more MS..

but Apparently Wang Liu Mei who is curently 100 years old manage to salvage a Tieren data and gave it to "ZEON" and hence the "Zaku II" was invented..

thats why both MS have the same unit number MS-06!!

JUST AS PLANNED!! YEAH THAT COOL BANDAI!!

I thought you didn't like Stargazer.

I quite like the first 2 eps. First one was absolutely brilliant, while the second one gave us insight about Sven's background hence giving him more personality than any of the GSD characters did. Didn't enjoy the exaggerated fight though, how the heck can Noir hurl two heavy Bucues with just a puny cable? Its arm joints would have been snapped off. 3rd ep was quite mediocre as it repeated GSD's flaws i.e. static grunts and free frags. The ending was good though, it actually gave me more impact than Lockon's "death" did. Awesome soundtrack too.

OMFG... Wang Liu Mei = 100 years old + creator of ZakuII? NOOOOOOOOOOOO BLASPHEMY !!

But yeah, the final episode of 00 is rushed too hectically as if they just dumped everything inside to end the show, and suddenly timewarped to 4 years later.

Time warp was not a big deal for me, i find it quite new but also they have no more story to tell lah if they remain they!!! But the fact tat they chincai make the final battle and mask dude bother me the most! I would really like to see more Mono-Eye! But please no Zaku! They appear too many times!

This post has been edited by 300078: Apr 1 2008, 07:42 PM

Well Stargazzer although episode 3 was rushed but the overall anime is really good.. I hoped for a proper OVA for it.. instead of model commericial.

I agree with 0300078 Graham with masked is overused.. having masked men theme is wayyyyy tooo overrrrused. I was thx god that the stolen mecha wasnt really used.. except once..

I write a full review of gundam 00 later on.. I wanted to hold back to see how the anime flow.. then evaluate.

This post has been edited by redeye84: Apr 1 2008, 08:51 PM

the more I look at graham mask, the more it reminds me of Hannibal...

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This post has been edited by kyon22: Apr 1 2008, 09:00 PM

lol @ your line.

Didn't expect them to HKC actually, but then again... Gotta wait til Oct for 2nd season according to wiki

Alright now for Gundam 00 review..

I dunno how to really start with this anime. I guess the best description for me is Gundam 00 is like a roller coaster. The phase of the plot starts out average then good then bad then good again then bad. There really no constant stance this anime have.

Plot is what this anime suffers a lot, I know Gundam 00 doing the whole multiple POV story. Yeah I like the concept but the problem is Gundam 00 doesn't ulitlize it properly. A lot of Chara is unnecessary used, I point out a few examples.

Patrick Collasawar: He virtually plays no role in the plot whatsoever, He just pretty much for comic relief.. Also they isn't much tension in the show to need any comic relief.

Soma Peliris: She just HRL ace, Although she has some connection with Kyrios( Allelujah) but was never elaborated. Since the last episode reveal a sort of deeper connection. So therefore I say If your planning for this in season 2, I don't see why she needs so much screen time for.. Save it for season 2.

Saji, Louise and Kinue: As if as Patrick isn't enough to fulfill any comedy bits so Saji and Lousise is more a mix of Civilian point of view and love comedy. Kinue in the other hand is like a fruitless story. She gone deep and dirty to find out the truth of CB just to get killed of without revealing anything.. So I don't see what the point having her around at all.

Graham Aker: Graham was our well respected ace.. He did good despite all odds. Yeah Graham actually made the story good.. but everything was ruin when He gone all emo and kamikaze attack Exia the last episode and now wears a Mask.

Throne team: This is truly a mess.. They pretty much come in to bail the CB out then wreak havoc. Then later on all three organizations have new toys and they are out. What the whole point with Throne since they don't play much of the plot whatsoever.. save the screen time for better used.

Other than character wise, Plot also as they some areas which was hinted then forgotten. I think I already mention it in previous post.. so check there.

To be fair There also some good things in the plot of Gundam 00 as atleast it break off from the overused theme such as main chara steals MS, young bratty teenage (Setsuna may not obey orders all the time or behave rational but atleast he was focus on the given task) , and masked bandito although iam afraid I might speak to soon.

Also this anime potray front line grunts as real devoted soldiers instead of recycle cannon fodder grunt who stand and shoot. Grunts here try their best ultilizing what they have. Instead of standing and dying, They dodge, evade and attack in coordinate fashion. Also we see with a superior force at their end, They manage to exploit weakness instead going OMG WTF IT'S A GUNDAM WE ARE ALL DEAD. That cost Gundam pilot to be intimidated to ace pilots skills. So overall Plot for me was average, I still feel they could have done better as they got the ground works done right.

As for Graphics, Well I can see that graphics Is pretty good we can fresh footage and detail animation. It's better than getting constant recycle footage and lazy animation.
The only downside is that the art maybe to kinda too clean as clean footage make things look cheerful. Which that not War is about. War people bleed, houses burn, things break and etc.. Clean animation doesn't give you that accurate portrayer but to be fair The animation do get dirty when its needed to.

It's still no match to some other Gundam anime like F91 and CCA but at least it does better than Seed.

Mecha wise.. Mecha design for Gundam 00 is really original, We don't get the typical Generic Gundam head design for all gundam but I still don't like the every one has a Gundam in their backyard. As for Grunts instead of recycle Zakus and GM we truly get something original.. I say that it's a good thing.

So mecha design is what I like for this anime but I still find UC design a lot more inspiring.

So overall this anime may not be good or bad.. So I wont exactly recommend it . So watch it if u have really nothing better to watch.

I think if you wanted to be fair and put your criticisms on a UC show, you'll see the UC shows (being old shows) have more of the problems you listed than 00 had.

Or maybe us being modern anime watchers, our expectations are quite high now due to high quality works being produced every year that raises the bar, but we somehow forgot the classics left behind and we remember them when we thought they were the best, which if you decided to re-watch it now you'll feel "Yuck...i used to like that?"

At least that's what i think the bias of most UC-purists are about.

Can I can do that... I had criticize UC gundam also.. even in this thread.. .. You ought to really read back all the old post.. instead of just jumping to conclusion.



err No i never did that... Gundam series that i like still forever be my fav. Matther of fact MS0083 is my Anti Depressant.. At times i am down and out I always pop in MS0083 Last Blitz of Zeon and it helps to heigthen my mood.


.. Well i just quote what Starghazzer used to say.. If you say we are UC fanboys.. then bring out reason why we are wrong to love UC. Dont just creep it and slander everyone.

I have read those before and its nowhere near the overly critical review u gave for 00. 00 is standard action shounen fare and should be treated as such. A popcorn flick with extra butter if you will. Your review paints a picture that 00 should come across as a serious and detailed sci-fi novel where characters needed to be expanded and other characters removed from story cuz they are useless etc. If 00 was a serious sci-fi novel then yes, i agree. But as an anime for pure entertainment value? I think its just being overcritical. But to each their own eh?

I do agree to most of your points but unlike you I was still able to enjoy the show since I didn't treat it so seriously. Its like watching John Woo movies and thinking "Apa larr...this one tak logik la...this is stupid ass show."

What's 0083 again? Stardust Memories? I dun know gundam by year names.

1stly i didn't call anyone a UC fanboy.

2ndly, nothing wrong with loving UC. I just dislike people who seem to be stuck in their limbo world of "UC is a classic and the best" just because of the nostalgia factor during the "good ye olde days" when in fact there were many problems with the show itself. Then they go around saying "BOOO....Turn A sux, Wing Gundam Sux, Wing and 00 sux...cuz UC is da best....AU copies all the elements from UC but PHAILSSSS"

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Added on April 2, 2008, 8:32 amI lol-ed.

Copy pasta-ed...to be sung to the tune of "Prince Ali" from Disney's Alladin.

This post has been edited by wolfx: Apr 2 2008, 08:32 AM

because its a anime that decipt WAR... Was War supose to be funny??.. Comedy seems to be a pretty easy excuse for Director to do a crappy job. Doing this is like making Saving Private Ryan where Tom Hank wears a clown suit as he goes around shooting German Nazis. Because Spielberg thinks that the show is overly violent and to serious and comic relief is needed...

Like Transfomers.. So we should take Transfomer for just entertainment value so we can excuse Michael Bay for sucking cos he made lousy plot.. based on your reply..

Or I should say ZZ Gundamu is nice for mere entertainment value cos Tomino apparently gone high and turn Gundam around 360 with comedy slapstick..



Yay... Someone who just says slander about UC is as bad as Gundam 00.. doesnt really knows the anime at all...

MS0083 is not the year name.. IT IS the title of the anime it self..



Well because IT IS THE TRUTH.... Well If you watch all the Gundam series produce you get what i mean.

This post has been edited by redeye84: Apr 2 2008, 09:45 AM

wah.. flame war ka?

lol..

gundam 00 should at least have one more week.. the ending too packed.

Thanks for the clarification. Anyway, I find Lockon & Saiji's sister(can't recall her name) to be a essential on unearthing CB's organization background or history. That includes people who funded or involved with the project. If the world has developed Super soldiers then CB was the creator for innovators? I think the best question of all time is, who was the original pilot for gundam 0