Becoz Turn A story is about the civilization on earth was degraded due the continuous war and new weapon develop! The UC era end right after some organization develop the Turn A with the Moonlight Butterfly weapon! Which wipe out all civilization on Earth onli leaving those that stay on the moon with their technology! So the Zaku and all other weapon was dig out of the ground by the earth ppl! And later when they enter the moon they got access to see the black history of earth where u c Gundam Zaku and lots more!
This anime was meant for Tomino to show us wat was the ending of gundam!

What I mean by Zaku is:
In V Gundam, in which is suppose to be the last Gundam series(time wise) in UC, didnt have Zaku in it, which implies that all Zaku, well, maybe except those displayed in museum, were already extinct (well, Jegan in F91 was already considered to be very old). Then, if Zaku were already extinct by the time of V Gundam, how come in Turn A Gundam time, they can excavate a bunch of Zaku (Borjanon)? This only shows that Turn A Gundam might happen in some kind of alternate UC, in which the Moonlight Butterfly incident happen around the time of ZZ Gundam to CCA time, b4 F91(technology-wise), where Zaku is still exist, and AMX-109 Capule (Mobile Kapool in Turn A) are used.

This means more vinyl puppet models. Argh.

There's a bit confusion, If there is 0 gundam, & there's 00,01,02,03,04. Where the hell is 1,2,3,4? surely they are the predecessors of the current models.

gundam 000
the nx gundam after 00

maybe hav 007? bond

gundam 00 would be referring to the most advance and powerful MS that CB ever design, the OO gundam...

But for me why Tomino place Zaku instead of others in the Turn A was becoz lots of ppl recognize Zaku more than any other mecha tat came out! Ppl may not be able to name a gundam they just saw but a green mono-eye is really well known! I luv them!
But yeah since it does not have direct connection with UC and also it a story 100 or maybe thousand years after the UC so it is really unclear or may consider parallel or alternative universe!

What's confusing, solar furnace means its from the sun? so how do they collect it? Why are there generally different types of colour? green is original? why? gold and red comes close to the solar colours why aren't they the original solar gn drives? Why are there so many Innovators(sounds like elevator when they try to pronounce it) to begin with? Tierre was one of them, why wasn't he in the league? Flag with GN drives? Why do they always kill the best few characters? and last not least. Why is there always a masked man, a single eye(cyclop) guy and a scarred fellow.

Solar furnace means it draws power from the sun. Not that its from the sun.

Different type of colours because CB developed the somethingsomething blanket that reduces the polution of the GN particles and allows it for unlimited operational time. The pirated GN drives must be recharged with GN particles after awhile but apparently has higher output than the green ones as demonstrated by the Thrones and apparently has some kinda radiation or cellular pollution. (that's why louisse's arm can't grow back and Graham's face can't be made "pretty" again.

Why? Cuz they are clones. Looks like everyone who has yellow glowing eyes have a twin brother/sister that is the opposite sex.

Flag with GN drive....reminded me of Epyon/Sazabi with big beam saber. XD

Kill Best few characters? Define best few.

Why got phsyically disabled ppl in the army? Cuz its war. That's reality.

Karozzo didn't.
If I remember correctly from F91, his blurred silhouette showed greyish hair. Yet it could still be blonde as that screen lasted a spilt second.

Chronicle Asher is a redhead.
Harry Od had silver hair.
To be fair, both of them didn't exactly wore full masks.

They could have found some hidden Zakus somewhere.

Old doesn't mean it can't be used. In F90, the Mars faction which consists of Zeonic remnants still used Gelgoogs and Doms, which they called Oldsmobiles. In F91 we can see a Zaku on display in the museum. The absence of Zakus in Victory doesn't mean it cannot exist, it could be just hidden somewhere.

Turn A can be considered as an alternate UC. In fact, in Mark Simmons' old Gundam Century website there used to be a full UC calendar which included events of Turn A centuries after the UC we know. The concept of Correct Century attempts to incorporate all the various gundam timelines together, where one calendar ultimately was destroyed (similar to the dark ages of Turn A) and another subsequent calendar arose. Something like that. Can anyone with the Turn A DVDs check whether UC was mentioned or not?

The apperance of Zakus and Kapools are just cameos. It's good to see some familiar suits too.

To look badass.

Do you think a real military will allow a one-eyed pilot who has zero stereoscopic vision to pilot a war machine?

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Mar 31 2008, 02:16 PM

Remind me of a rebel leader in colombia that always wear a mask...

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MENCLAVE IS SLOWER THAN A TURTLEEEEE... IM HUNGER FOR GUNDAM 00!!!!!

From /m/ :


Dumbass shoulders

neena/nina is already a clone/newtype/cyborg just like tieria and ribbons/livonze. lol
remember the time she hacked/accessed veda in tieria's beloved veda console room?

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Added on March 31, 2008, 4:29 pm- overused char clones are overused, i could really careless if graham is just using it to cover his battered face from the explosion or hes simply being another char clone.
- Alejandro's MS would be good if it isnt retarded gold, and having a better head/face design other than the generic grunt crap. if you look his back view, it actually looks pretty damn good/detailed minus the color, but once you turn him infront, its just total facepalm.jpg
- reminds me a LOT bout code geass
- grown up setsuna should be interesting.

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Added on March 31, 2008, 4:30 pmi think gundam 00 isnt revealed, they just showed exia being rebuilt. i could be wrong though

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Added on March 31, 2008, 4:35 pmtieria should be picked up by sumeragi/ian/feldt crew, along with the gn drive.

the last scene of graham was a few episodes back fitting the overflag with the gn drive, i suppose while they were fighting on space or w/e during 23 24 and 25 graham prolly made his way into space.

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Added on March 31, 2008, 4:36 pmunknown CB test run of a new gundam most likely

INC SEASON2 ANGEL WING + ANGEL POSE.

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Added on March 31, 2008, 4:54 pmgraham scene was probably forced, but it still good enough. overall, better to have him out on 25 than totally delaying 6 months for his appearence on s2 disappointing a lot of 'gar'ham fans

Regarding the fight performance, you have to take note of the below:

- previous episodes where graham was owning "gundams" were against RANGED specialized gundams (lockon/eins), and just to be fair, he didnt really own lockon minus the endurance battle (lol 15hours?) and the part where he sliced off eins' arm, eins was caught offguard, and he disarmed him AND using eins' weapon to slice off his arm (as he prolly know his own beam sabers would prolly not do enough damage)

- previous episodes he also used straight charging approaches in his fight minus some strafings which is only effective against direct attacks especially ranged attacks when you can see it coming and anticipate a dodge and lets not forget that previously his overflag uses propulsion based over GN drive anti gravity based movement hence his charging speed (or static straight flight) is actually faster than most if not all GN drive based gundam and just that alone provides a shock factor against his enemy (calvary charge from old times comes into mind or the famed blitzkrieg)

- exia is purely a melee based gundam and even post trans-am, would still provide a significant challenge as the overflag werent designed to be melee based units after all. and given the performance in episode 25, i doubt one could pull the "setsuna is a bad pilot and graham is an elite pilot and its IMPOSSIBLE" bullshit anymore.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 31 2008, 04:54 PM

All i could said is the scene for Graham is too rush and forcefully place! Beside that i have no problem! Since over all it is still the problem whether we get a NG 1/100 Graham GN Flag!

have to second that, even up for contending to be the best 2007-2008 anime *THUS FAR*

would like to see if anything topples it
(a close second imo would be shana? but the first few episodes is just /facepalm)

note: i rate animes based on overall quality such as plot/storyline, seiryuus, graphic, sound etc etc. mainly the "general appeal".

Go try True Tears. I think its one of the best this season.

Char clones: If they had significant roles in the plot, I wouldn't mind at all. I don't think Graham is a worthy Char clone since he doesn't have a agenda like the others do. This is by no means to degrade him, but just saying that he != Char apart from the mask. Let him have the mask, if he has an actual reason for it. Just don't let him wear it for the sake of being badass.

Alejandro's golden gaybot: PURE FAIL. The design is too simple, just bland lines compared to the details of the other Gundams. The generic grunt face is actually a good move rather than yet another Gundam i.e. V-fin plus dual eyes appearing (although it's blasphemy for the classic GMs). Those plastic looking wings are absolutely hideous. The WZC (which I think it's overdramatic anyway) has better looking wings, while the Freedom's wings is already a classic. And as if the golden bling isn't exaggerated enough, Exia's stabbing is even more overboard. He doesn't need to waste all his blades, just a single stab to the cockpit will do since it's already disabled.

The golden MA doesn't seem that bad though, in fact it reminds me of Victory's kickass Recarl. Why can't they just use the MA? Why do they have to reveal another MS?

Code Geass resemblance: If you mean mecha designs, I totally agree. The recent weirdo mechas look more comfortable and appropriate in Code Geass rather than Gundam. I have no hopes for the 00 gundam as it's likely to be an overdesigned Exia, maybe along the lines of the Avalanche. The 0 gundam however, might follow a more traditional design esp when the head is a blatant ripoff from the MKII.

Grown up Setsuna: Hopefully he will have a more important role instead of "just another Meister"... come on, he's the main protagonist. He should be fighting Ali as his main nemesis instead of Graham.

ANGEL WING + ANGEL POSE = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Let's be serious please, Sunrise.

Graham should not have charged forward. Post-Trans Am Exia should be depleted, hence easier to fight. Graham should have fought the typical way, i.e. strafing and pumping shots from afar. Charging mindlessly forward is unwise, especially when your opponent is a melee specialist. All I can say that it was an anticlimax fight, especially when that battle could have been an epic. Of course, it's nice to see them chopping each other's limbs off and hacking away crazily.

Oh well... there's always masked Graham in Season2. I hope he has more to show rather than just another Jerid.

how long hav to wait o~~~~~

seems like ribbons did open the old greek's grave n found sth

dunno anyone mention before, i noticed allelujah both eyes is not the same representing dual personalities. i think tat's why the furios him(hallelujah?) died as one of his eyes blinded... lol...