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post Nov 17 2017, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 17 2017, 01:19 PM)
Beats me how people can complain about Superman's mouth was slightly out of proportion and noticeable when you look for it  shakehead.gif
But nobody complained about Moff Tarkin's and Leia's cgi right, which is very easy to spot in the film?  brows.gif
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there were discussion abt star wars too. some veer toward ethic and some do question was it necessary to CGI them rather get a lookalike. i think that is a different occasion. Both were CGI cuz one has pass and another was too old to play the character. This supe is just removing facial hair.

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post Nov 17 2017, 01:46 PM

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Justice "Snyder" League.

Sums it up in 3 words.

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Sorry I didn't hear & was late to this news, this happens when i tried to avoid all JL spoilers online & otherwise 😔

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post Nov 17 2017, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(demio121 @ Nov 17 2017, 01:45 PM)
there were discussion abt star wars too.  some veer toward ethic and some do question was it necessary to CGI them rather get a lookalike.  i think that is a different occasion.  Both were CGI cuz one has pass and another was too old to play the character.  This supe is just removing facial hair.

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Still, that opening scene stood out cos not only was the cgi somewhat below par and yet they actually zoomed in on his face, that's why it's quite noticeable... laugh.gif

With different framing and lighting, they could've hid that

Well... not as bad as say...



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post Nov 17 2017, 02:19 PM

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Oh lord can't stop laughing... biggrin.gif laugh.gif

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Plot that might have been written by two 7-year-old boys making “pew pew pew!” fighting noises.
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Hate to be party pooper but the bad CGI, Ben Affleck's lack of motivation, Stephenwolff (did I spell it right) uncanny valley, disjointed plot... seems like a bad sequel.

I can safely say, Zack Snyder is now the M Bay of superhero films.










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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Nov 17 2017, 02:19 PM)
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Oh lord can't stop laughing...  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif

-NYPost

Hate to be party pooper but the bad CGI, Ben Affleck's lack of motivation, Stephenwolff (did I spell it right) uncanny valley, disjointed plot... seems like a bad sequel.

I can safely say, Zack Snyder is now the M Bay of superhero films.
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Not to defend Zack or anything, sure the film has flaws but so do MCU films, but difference is they don't receive as much hate as DCEU films. I think this whole 'hate DCEU is cool' thing has gone way overboard whistling.gif

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 17 2017, 02:35 PM)
Not to defend Zack or anything, sure the film has flaws but so do MCU films, but difference is they don't receive as much hate as DCEU films. I think this whole 'hate DCEU is cool' thing has gone way overboard  whistling.gif
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Bro. No one hate DC. Stop with the "everybody hate DC" mindset.
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 17 2017, 02:35 PM)
Not to defend Zack or anything, sure the film has flaws but so does MCU films, but difference is they don't receive as much hate as DCEU films. I think this whole 'hate DCEU is cool' thing has gone way overboard  whistling.gif
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I have to disagree laugh.gif ... a good film is a good film and if it is otherwise, it will have the equivalent reception. There is no MCU/DCEU bias.

What about 'Wonder Woman' - - this is a DCEU film that critics loved, and I too found WW to be really good. It had plenty of wow moments including quite an emotional ending.

Marvel is not all with an excellent streak - - to me, the weakest had to be Iron Man 3 (average 7/10), Avengers 2 (6.7/10) and GotG 2 (7.2/10) in which I skipped.

But... even though these Marvel flicks were not that great, it is NOWHERE AS BAD as MoS (6.2/10), BvS (4.9/10) or the utterly atrocious Suicide Squad (4.8/10).

*These are the average rating from RT, not the 'big value' consensus score.

MoS was Snyder's last 'decent' flick IMO while his best work to date remains to be '300'.

Heck, I was hoping JL would break his bad streak but looks like it is just BvS 2.0.

I am hopeful for 'Aquaman (2018)' - - helmed by James Wan.









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post Nov 17 2017, 03:33 PM

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7/10 from me

- bogged down by 2 hours limit from WB executive. could have benefited more from an extra 10-20 mins.
- wonky editing and pacing especially in the first act
- something wrong with the color grading especially during the final act, somewhat exaggerating the poor cgi effects.
- weak villain, as bad as Ronan in guardians of the galaxy 1.
- again, weak cgi, final battle worse than BvS doomfist final battle lmao
- superman’s cgi lips urrgghh especially the opening scene
- batman's sudden 180 degree character changes from BvS. from a super serious guy, suddenly becoming a wiseass trying to make jokes in every scenes.
- batman's opening battle lmao. one of the worst fight in comic book history ever. what happened to that awesome BvS warehouse fightscene? :/
- lots of wonder woman’s butt shot (kinda cheapen the character imo). also there's a scene where flash landed on her boobs. typical joss whedon crass humor. blueerrgghh
- quite a lot of jokes not working due to flat delivery by some of the characters. flash's jokes are decent, but aquaman's..not so much.
- forgettable song theme. danny elfman's generic superhero theme ruins the only positive thing in BvS.

But hey, it was fun. never a dull moment unlike BvS. 2nd half of the movie works way better than the first half in terms of editing and scene cohesiveness. Good chemistry between the JL members. Better than BvS, but not as good as Man of Steel. So there’s that.

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post Nov 17 2017, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(damnself @ Nov 17 2017, 03:12 PM)
Bro. No one hate DC. Stop with the "everybody hate DC" mindset.
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Didn't say DC, I said DCEU which is Zack Snyder's vision laugh.gif

QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Nov 17 2017, 03:16 PM)
I have to disagree  laugh.gif ... a good film is a good film and if it is otherwise, it will have the equivalent reception. There is no MCU/DCEU bias.

What about 'Wonder Woman' - - this is a DCEU film that critics loved, and I too found WW to be really good. It had plenty of wow moments including quite an emotional ending.

Marvel is not all with an excellent streak - - to me, the weakest had to be Iron Man 3 (average 7/10), Avengers 2 (6.7/10) and GotG 2 (7.2/10) in which I skipped.

But... even though these Marvel flicks were not that great, it is NOWHERE AS BAD as MoS (6.2/10), BvS (4.9/10) or the utterly atrocious Suicide Squad (4.8/10).

*These are the average rating from RT, not the 'big value' consensus score.

MoS was Snyder's last 'decent' flick IMO while his best work to date remains to be '300'.

Heck, I was hoping JL would break his bad streak but looks like it is just BvS 2.0.

I am hopeful for 'Aquaman (2018)' - - helmed by James Wan.
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He sort of finished his trilogy, MoS, BvS and JL... all average and critically poor films sadly
So falls the house of Snyder mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 17 2017, 03:35 PM)
Not to defend Zack or anything, sure the film has flaws but so do MCU films, but difference is they don't receive as much hate as DCEU films. I think this whole 'hate DCEU is cool' thing has gone way overboard  whistling.gif
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The red flags were pointed out long long ago by staunch DC fans but are lambasted by pro Snyder as Marvel loving or turncoats. 😡

It was a situation loyal DC fans can do without. Being accused as closet marvel fans. 😪😪😪

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post Nov 17 2017, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Nov 17 2017, 03:58 PM)
The red flags were pointed out long long ago by staunch DC fans but are lambasted by pro Snyder as Marvel loving or turncoats. 😡

It was a situation loyal DC fans can do without. Being accused as closet marvel fans. 😪😪😪
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Pretty sure his era is already over, thanks for 5 years of a very precarious roller coaster ride rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Nov 17 2017, 04:39 PM)
Didn't say DC, I said DCEU which is Zack Snyder's vision laugh.gif
He sort of finished his trilogy, MoS, BvS and JL... all average and critically poor films sadly
So falls the house of Snyder  mega_shok.gif
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Again chill your banana ego...no need to swing your dick on everyone's reply. Allow difference in opinions even the one does not jive with yours. You are starting to sound like the other small boy.

MCU rules simply because they are a better brand on a whole and already perfected a tight operation. Even JL became a juggernaut hit, DCEU still got their ass spanked in 2018. Aquaman vs Black Panther, Infinity Wars, Antman 2. There also the wildcard of Deadpool 2 from Fox. DCEU with 5 movies vs MCU 17 movies. The bad press from DCEU just never stop and wasn't addressed properly while you seldom hear controversial news from MCU camp except creative differences or actor demanding higher salaries. It's not hard for people to look at DCEU with a tainted reputation.

With or without Zack Snyder it just an uphill battle to topple MCU overnight. They are the Apple equivalent of CBM.

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Just watch it. It fun but the battle with steppenwolf lack that umphh feel. I hope the battle in JL 2 will be insanely bigger.
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QUOTE(masterelr @ Nov 17 2017, 01:48 AM)
I just remembered the part in the trailer where Bruce is looking at some kinda hologram and Alfred saying "lets hope you're not too late" isn't in the actual movie. I know its pretty normal for trailer bits not to end up in the movie but those look like important parts that got people talking. Oh well.
Was really disappointed there was no surprise Green Lantern or even the black Superman suit that was teased.
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Indeed.
The rising of Superman. could do so much better..
But in the movie, the type of screenplay to bring Superman up.. a simple and forgetable fight scene. then leave
Is TVB drama plot since ages...
He is not creative or sensitive to the superheroes movies , bad director


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Hahaha, this is hilarious laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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Much better than BvS due to the entertainment value.

The goods:
- Some fantastic actions, especially one scene involving Wonder Woman
- Entertainment value

The bads:
- Awful editing and flow, especially the 1st half
- Batman 180 turn and wisecracking smartass
- While some jokes land, some are very forced
- Some character moments/interactions feel very forced in, probably due to reshoots
- Anti-climatic final fight and the movie ends too abruptly
- Superman's revival is stupid and the resolution reminds me of MARTHA. Henry Cavil is very wooden.
- Can feel what I call the Snyder style: trying hard but failing to make the movie smarter than it really is, with all the "deep"words thrown in. This also makes many dialogues very unnatural

Well despite all the bads, I would say its worth a watch. Kinda like Transformers level of popcorn entertainment.
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The geeky nitpicks I had is the power showcase of Aquaman. With his trident on hand he can take down the big blue in the comic book. So a bit surprised how lopsided the fight was with the revival of Kal-El. Yupp i love Aquaman more than the Trinity.

For the greatest detective in the world, he made no secret he is batman in front of a handful of extras during his first encounter with Arthur Curry...lol.

The flash sequel need a super charged training montage to bring him back to being a capable hero and don't milk he is a rookie although it make sense by his naivety he trigger flashpoint but the eagle eyed people will retort he is an older flash in BvS dream sequence.

Was rewatching Ocean 11, that would be a good benchmark of witty banter they should aim for in the future. Organic, clever and the quips truthful to character development instead of insert jokes here and there.
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I was excited when I found out the classic Batman theme will make it to the movie but was disappointed that it can only be heard clearly for like 3 seconds. The rest of it was drowned by the explosions and all.
It was during the climax when Batman was driving the Batmobile trying to distract those giant fly-like things by the way.
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Sorry,

Just to add, been listening to Sigrid's 'Everybody Knows' and I have a feeling it was a Zack Snyder decision this song. Opening credits definitely his work.

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QUOTE(McF7y @ Nov 17 2017, 09:10 PM)
Sorry,

Just to add, been listening to Sigrid's 'Everybody Knows' and I have a feeling it was a Zack Snyder decision this song. Opening credits definitely his work.

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Memang his decision pun, I didn't like that song... sweat.gif


Also this music that plays in the beginning, I thought I entered the wrong hall or something, cos it sounded like something from Star Wars or Marvel laugh.gif Then towards the end, oooh JL theme



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