Aaron Sorkin writing traditional superhero movies...nope that will be disaster. If he come up with a draft and allowing others to adapt then it's more realistic. He's that all controlling writer butting head with David Fincher and give zero f about studio. So Marvel got no chance at all while DC may get a shot getting his involvement.

Chances are he will pick those edgy Vertigo titles like Transmetropolitan/DMZ which felt like something on his wheelhouse with an a-hole anti hero busting everyone's balls to be rigtheous. Basically that's most of his writing subjects or topics. Although he was well known for his rapid fire lines but to me he is genius at structuring and pacing story arcs. He does a lot of innovative plot set-ups that no one can match.

Generally
Film directing skill>>everything else.
Aaron Sorkin
Script>>everything else.
Michael Bay
Style>>everything else.
Fincher,Scorsese,Nolan,Kubrick,Malick,WKW,etc...
Auteur theory>>everything else.
CBM
Fanboy>>everything else.

Whedon can't risk to change the foundation too much. Only left with 4 months plus to complete the movie. Let alone completing vfx shots...reshoot,sound mixing, music scoring, lip synch dubbing and final color grading. All these takes considerable amount of time to do. They literally need to finish the film by October otherwise they will f-up the format conversion to imax and 3d or what not. On top of that some countries may even need language dubbing. They are already behind schedule as I can see.

Isn't the whole point of editing is to have multiple version so the studio can pick one version to finish up to release theatrically. It's already been a standard practice started from the Godfather days. I'm saying fundamentally Whedon does not have a lot of room to make changes to the edit as release date is too close for effects heavy film like this one. Simply no knowing whether minor or extensive reshoot. Furthermore it's disrespectful to a degree for Joss Whedon to do a 180 on Zack Snyder's rough cut unless the state of it really bad which simply again no way of knowing it. In order for the studio to greenlight the reshoot, think they already decided which rough cut version to base on. Pretty sure Zack Snyder already shares more than one of his extended edits to gauge feedback.

Does it even need Whedon edit vs Snyder edit to begin with? If it's good,it's good...so if it's sucked then it's sucked and not a single thing you can do about it.

The edit structure of BvS extended cuts....are just missing scenes without touching the heavy effects shots too much. It's not like Ridley Scott's Kingdom of Heaven which is night and day different.

So did Gareth Edwards cries when the last one third of Rogue One being reworked by Tony Gilroy. Neither did Gilroy came out dissing Edwards for not being credited for his contribution.

Unless you are living under a rock....blockbuster movies nowadays are being released simultaneously regionally mostly to call first dip on foreign ticket sales and to compete against streaming services.

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Sound and look like JL might open above tracking projection. Currently projected at 120m, just 5m shy away from Thor Ragnarok opening. So if legion of WW fans able to flock the cinema, it will be a repeat of WW opening. The question now is will Thor able to be relevant in the coming 2 weeks as WB marketing on hyperdrive.
Wife seen 30 mins of it and looking good. No indication will carry over if it is any good as a movie on a whole. By coming monday or so the complete version will be out for filmboard certification so got snip locally or not is anybody guess.

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Wife work with WBHK and she got a group selfie with Diana. Me the idiot husband loitering in kl and hk. Actually she is my client as I do trailer localization and editing for sponsorship tie-in like if KFC decide to buy sponsorship for JL they will come to me to edit promo clip out of the trailer or extended footages that the studio provide me with. LOL....

She is the last person you want to hear how good a movie gonna be especially the one she is directly working on. During that premiere the WB executives and staff main focus is ensuring the event runs like a clockwork especially with all the celebrities and VVIP guests. Down the road she will need to put out half a dozen screenings more or so, she will just check out from the movies she had a hand working on. She will be more interested in talking how well the movie tracking across cinema halls and does it generate enough social media awareness or how much she can swindle out of advertisers. LOL...

Well the industry insiders just look at movies as product to push to the masses and they have a different perspectives altogether. I too suffer from the same problem as I avoid disney movies like a plague cause I did hundreds of localized trailers with them when I started.

In regardless JL a good movie or not it will make a killing at BO initially but definitely can't tell whether it has serious legs like WW or MCU movies.

On the surfaced we insert premiere date of respective countries and vo.This is before youtube/facebook become a thing...cause distributors regularly advertised on tv and radio back in the days. Nowadays we do it for display panel at cinema and social media. Trailers from US came to us with empty titling and in extreme cases we also censor clips in order to pass LPF certificate for any public screenings of the trailers. We get more work in HK as they are more chinese language focus and practically every foreign languages will be translated into traditional chinese character and VO rerecording of announcer. Its all tedious work and we become numb to the movies we are working on as we watched dozen of times of the same trailer over and over again. Luckily nowadays i don't do the editing myself anymore and more of supervisory role. The only perks is some early screenings here and there or early bluray releases that my wife usually get for free from her dealings with suppliers. LOL....

Yo small boy...how old are you? How is daddy and mommy ....if need any counselling I can recommend some people that I know.

You reminded 3 buddies of mine Ig, Nor, & Ant. Sadly lost touch with them after coming of age....lol

Totally agree with you it's a new universe out there hence Snyder was dumped if you did not read the writings on the wall clear enough.
(Edit:not to sound malicious toward Snyder and i do empathized with his lost of a family member, maybe it's time for him to make other types of movie.)

Masturbating is an important aspect of growing up but the real deal is not to embarass yourself by premature release when comes to the real thing...lol...

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Neither....Pron Parody fanboy

Was picking up my stash of graphic novels, the seller was hyping about the new story arc of Batman. Scott Snyder can be a bit of hit and miss for me...this one really hit out of the park.

Holy molly....racked up some serious cash on Dark Nights Metal. Do not be fooled by the gimmicky heavy metal Batmen invading DC. It's flashpoint 2.0 had a baby with Crime Justice of America with a super sick twist. The origins of the Metal Batmen super freaking awesome. Can't wait to know who is the person behind Batman who laughs...never felt this excited for mainstream books for a very long time.

That is if anyone still reads comic book....

They are marketing assets to use for promotional ties in for advertisers who buy into their price gouging sponsorship and for tv shows/media outlets to integrate into their promotional works. Hence big movies usually dumped all sorts of duration and movie clips right before release for all the tie-in ads to come out and entertainment shows to keep the hype train going.

Also content creator in social media/websites will generate conversations about these clips and the metadata will be studied by analyst to do tracking of specific goal or insight of the target audience.

Not just TV ads....duh!! Lol...

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To be fair there are a lot of good movies with complex plotlines that clocks under 100mins. Grand Budapest Hotel, Reservoir Dogs, Trainspotting, Chronicle, Cloverfield, etc...

On the flipside, longer duration also does not guarantee a movie will be good unless you are so kiasu to calculate the ratio of money spend vs minutes in return.

From marketing perspective...shorter movies does affect screening rotations that they can exploit especially when you are looking at big movies like JL. Easily they can squeeze one or two extra showings per day at the peak of launch window. So that's how the studio ensure they hit certain threshold of guarantee projections within their estimation of ROI. There's actually a science behind it especially animated movies that majority aimed at clocking 90 minutes to ensure heavy rotations. Case in point, do you feel Lion King inadequate as a movie because the runtime only 89 mins.

Just saying...so I will reserve judgement until really watching it to decide whether the duration compromised the pacing or plot development. For now...just no telling about it. Or maybe this is not an overcomplicated story to tell.

I can point to you on the same principle of Grand Budapest Hotel has a dozen of mechanized plotline with a dozen of big and small characters to complete the big picture. Present timeline and flashback.

Lion King need to establish Scar usurping the throne and the hero's journey of Simba growing up with no less meeting his two companion and falling in love as well. Then he needs to reclaim the throne by fighting off the 3 hyenas and Scar in 90 minutes.

Honestly how complicated it is to link motherboxes to Steppenwolf with a 3 to 4 minutes flashback. Big blue return just not gonna be as convoluted as it need to be unless they have yet to learn their lesson from BvS. All they ever need is a setup or the same old cliche of race against time to find a deus ex machina mechanic.

Quicksilver appear less than 6 minutes in DOFP to make a lasting impression so i don't think it need to use a lot of time to introduce the 3 new heroes. Their likability and importance boil down to their performance and does the script give them enough things to do or not. Just overreacting nitpick of the runtime.and won't know until you judge it in the context of watching the movie on a whole.

You simply do not know JL going for complex narrative or straightforward point a to point b story. WW is a straightforward mission to leave island and confront Ares narrative. So why assume so much of the unknown and create this unnecessary premature assumption for the worst outcome.

Warcraft suffers not from rush pacing but bad film making on a whole with a bland plotline that does not resonate with general audiences. Correlation does not imply causation.

Just because MCU needlessly had a long shared universe history to build up their big story does not mean JL has to do the same. Again watch it first then only you bitch about it so you don't half assed your opinion.

Excuse me...who is fear mongering the screen runtime???

Dude it is what it is....why excarcebate the obvious unless you really like to be Captain Obvious.

Do fans complain that Vision only appeared for 8ish minutes in AoU. So will the Academy rescind the Oscar from Viola Davis and Judi Dench because they only appear for a paltry 8 minutes in their winning performance.

Fanboy anxiety is one thing I can comprehend but not all fanboys are equal in their opinions. Over reacting is one thing and closed minded is another thing.

You not gonna convince me with your so call rational so I couldn't care less if you buy into what I'm expressing. Even if JL sucks it could be mainly for other reasons than the runtime. The bigger concern is does it have conflicting tone with 2 different film directors and does it become too much of MCU copycat. Even worse it's just another passable CBM neither here nor there. If its good does it even matter what is the runtime. Lol...

Flashpoint most likely will be used to retcon Batfleck to another actor should Affleck quit DCEU. Furthermore there was another Joker movie in development that has nothing to do with Jared Leto.

The irony....Thanos is a copycat of Darkseid...hahaha. Anyway check out some youtube vids of Dark Nights Metal cause comic book readers are losing their shit over this new supervillain group. They outclass Crime Syndicate of America. Very big chance you will see them sticking around for some time to come.

Ha...japan???