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eclectice
post Mar 22 2008, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(1piece @ Mar 22 2008, 09:18 AM)
I'm newbie here... I would like ask all members here for my intention to buy new laptop.

This week I did survey in Lowyat to buy laptop. According to my budget around RM2700+ I'm really prefer this laptop:

Fujitsu Esprimo U9200
- Intel Centrino core 2 duo T5250 (1.5GHz, 800FSB/4MB L-2 Cache)
- Intel Pro/wireless 4965AGN network connection
- IGB DDR2, 120GB SATA HDD
- 12" superfine WXGA TFT
- 384MB Intel Graphics media accelerator X3100
- V.92 Modem
- Bluetooth
- SD/PC card/Hard Drive Shock Sensor
- DOS

I want use this laptop mostly to connect the internet and do my assignment. I don't need for games of design graphic jobs. Hence, I need small screen and not very heavy to bring it anywhere.

So,  Is this laptop worth and reliable one??? anybody have this kind laptop... please advice and share your experience.
and also is there any other laptop recommended for my budget above????

thank a lot.
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You can buy this model for your purposes. Anyway, you only choose FreeDOS OS. Are you going to install Linux or Windows XP later on? You should upgrade the memory >= 2 GB RAM because the GPU (graphics card) already steals some of the memory. Go for a better 4GB RAM to run the memory-hungry Vista OS with a few hiccups if you decide to install Vista.

If you don't want to be a loser so soon, maybe you can go for...

Dell Inspiron 1420 at basic setup offer with RM2599 (online price includes delivery as at 22 March 2008):
Pre-installed MS Works 9.0 OEM
Pre-installed McAfee anti-virus solution OEM
Intel(R) Centrino(R) Processor Technology - Intel(R) Core(tm)2 Duo Processor T5450 (1.66 GHz, 2MB Cache, 667 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista(R) Home Basic
2GB (2 X 1024MB) 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM
14.1" WXGA Display with Integrated 2.0 mega pixel web cam
120GB SATA 5400 RPM Hard Drive (free upgrade to 160GB currently if you choose this option)
DVD Burner (8x DVDRW with dual layer support)
Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Intel(R) 3945 802.11a/g Mini-card
8-in-1 media card reader
Integrated 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Integrated Bluetooth
Internal 56K Modem
Integrated Stereo Sound
One year limited standard warranty NBD + POW

If you want to buy a Dell product, it is better to buy online because you can decide from a lot of choices (with individual item price difference indications) and you get online promotions. Well, I sound like a sales agent (I am not)...hahaha..but, I give my advice based on my current experience with Dell. Go for it!

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post Mar 22 2008, 04:08 PM

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hi guys ,
planning to get a laptop for brother bday , he does surfing and some light gaming e.g. fifa07
plz advice me on which laptop i should go for

1. brand : HP / Asus ... ... (No acer , benQ )
2. budget : 2.5 k - 3.0 k
3. spec. : 2 GB Ram , 120 HDD , external grahic card , Intel vs AMD (which would be a better recommendation?)
4. size : no preference.
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post Mar 22 2008, 04:44 PM

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Looking for a new laptop around May but might as well start researching now ~
Im seeking for a laptop to watch anime, movies, some gaming but not intense and little graphic design stuffs and im hopefully of getting a laptop with good warranty covers.


1. brand : Dell?Hp?Asus?BenQ?Or any other recommendation~( strictly no acer )
2. budget : Erm 2.5k to 3.2k
3. spec. : 2GB Ram at least , 160 HDD , erm? 8400? , Intel 1.6 above
4. size : 14 inch or 15inch both suits me

I've heard Dell's warranty is great and the price looks tempting but how about the performance of it? How Inspiron offer 8400 with DDR3 while Inspiron 1520 with DDR2? Any differences ? PcFair's coming too, know any great offer at that time? tongue.gif
Thanks =)

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post Mar 22 2008, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(eclectice @ Mar 22 2008, 11:45 AM)
You can buy this model for your purposes. Anyway, you only choose FreeDOS OS. Are you going to install Linux or Windows XP later on? You should upgrade the memory >= 2 GB RAM because the GPU (graphics card) already steals some of the memory. Go for a better 4GB RAM to run the memory-hungry Vista OS with a few hiccups if you decide to install Vista.

If you don't want to be a loser so soon, maybe you can go for...

Dell Inspiron 1420 at basic setup offer with RM2599 (online price includes delivery as at 22 March 2008):
Pre-installed MS Works 9.0 OEM
Pre-installed McAfee anti-virus solution OEM
Intel(R) Centrino(R) Processor Technology - Intel(R) Core(tm)2 Duo Processor T5450 (1.66 GHz, 2MB Cache, 667 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista(R) Home Basic
2GB (2 X 1024MB) 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM
14.1" WXGA Display with Integrated 2.0 mega pixel web cam
120GB SATA 5400 RPM Hard Drive (free upgrade to 160GB currently if you choose this option)
DVD Burner (8x DVDRW with dual layer support)
Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Intel(R) 3945 802.11a/g Mini-card
8-in-1 media card reader
Integrated 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Integrated Bluetooth
Internal 56K Modem
Integrated Stereo Sound
One year limited standard warranty NBD + POW

If you want to buy a Dell product, it is better to buy online because you can decide from a lot of choices (with individual item price difference indications) and you get online promotions. Well, I sound like a sales agent (I am not)...hahaha..but, I give my advice based on my current experience with Dell. Go for it!
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Thank a lot for your advice. I will look for more information regarding Dell Inspiron 1420. Btw, buying dell product through online, is it better and cheaper than through shop? or when PC fair? please advice. thanks
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post Mar 22 2008, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(williamngwl @ Mar 18 2008, 01:32 AM)
definately M51SN is better than F5VL
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how much is the asus F5VL & M51SN cost now ?
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post Mar 22 2008, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(1piece @ Mar 22 2008, 05:05 PM)
Btw, buying dell product through  online, is it better and cheaper than through shop? or when PC fair? please advice. thanks
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I don't know if it's cheaper than PC fair but what I know is online is better than the DELL roadshow they had in Lowyat Plaza yesterday. I am eyeing for Dell 1525 but the sales people there really leave bad impression (of DELL company & products) to me.
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post Mar 22 2008, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(1piece @ Mar 22 2008, 05:05 PM)
Thank a lot for your advice. I will look for more information regarding Dell Inspiron 1420. Btw, buying dell product through  online, is it better and cheaper than through shop? or when PC fair? please advice. thanks
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I don't prefer down-to-earth shops that offer Dell products because they are lacking buying options and courtesy. Last time, I asked for MS Office option pre-installed and they could not offer it. Dell has agreements with these down-to-earth shops that offer Dell products. But, Dell could not control how the sales are done by these shops.

Dell online store is still Dell's strongest point. So, it is better to get what I want from online Dell store and get more offer promotions. In fact, I get better support and promotions from sales agents that I deal with online. And, Dell sales agents are ehem ehem..(just kidding hehehe).


Added on March 22, 2008, 10:42 pm
QUOTE(NicJolin @ Mar 22 2008, 04:44 PM)
Looking for a new laptop around May but might as well start researching now ~
Im seeking for a laptop to watch anime, movies, some gaming but not intense and little graphic design stuffs and im hopefully of getting a laptop with good warranty covers.
1. brand : Dell?Hp?Asus?BenQ?Or any other recommendation~( strictly no acer )
2. budget : Erm 2.5k to 3.2k
3. spec. : 2GB Ram at least  , 160 HDD , erm? 8400? , Intel 1.6 above
4. size : 14 inch or 15inch both suits me

I've heard Dell's warranty is great and the price looks tempting but how about the performance of it? How Inspiron offer 8400 with DDR3 while Inspiron 1520 with DDR2? Any differences ? PcFair's coming too, know any great offer at that time?  tongue.gif
Thanks =)
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You got to realize that what Dell offers the best is their service & support. Dell works hard to rival HP on this area. All the items that are installed on Dell laptops are common brands that also exist on other laptops. So, in terms of performance, they are more or less the same if compared between the same specs. It is nothing extraordinary about components that exist on the laptops in the market no matter what brands they are. Except Asus: they design their own motherboard and graphics card, so you can expect something from Asus. The rest still outsource the components from the same vendors like Seagate, Samsung Electronics, Sony, etc. And, most brands have their own reasons with their offerings. If you want something, it is better to talk with money. Got money and you get what you want.

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post Mar 23 2008, 12:12 AM

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Oh thx for the reply
So how about the comparison between Geforce 8400 with DDR3 with 8400 with DDR2 and 8600 with DDR2?
Oh so both Dell and HP got a great customer service right?
Any recommendation for the info i posted above? =/
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post Mar 23 2008, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(NicJolin @ Mar 23 2008, 12:12 AM)
Oh thx for the reply
So how about the comparison between Geforce 8400 with DDR3 with 8400 with DDR2 and 8600 with DDR2?
Oh so both Dell and HP got a great customer service right?
Any recommendation for the info i posted above?  =/
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Yes, both Dell and HP try to compete for service & support for those with a business entity, like my company...hehehe. I like Dell because of the pricing when compared to HP on the same specs. For example, when you buy a Dell laptop + Microsoft Office Pro 2007 + 7200 RPM HDD, the price is cheaper than the one offered by HP (or Lenovo or Acer). Last time I checked with Lenovo for 7200 RPM HDD, they could not offer it.

On Geforce 8400 with DDR3 and Geforce 8600 with DDR2: maybe you should add other two: Geforce 8600 with DDR3 and Geforce 8400 with DDR2. My conclusion will definitely be like below:

8600 + DDR3 > 8600 + DDR2 > 8400 + DDR3 > 8400 + DDR2.

But why does Dell offer like what you stated? It is called pricing strategy and it could be an issue with heat design. On heat issue: If you want to have 8600 with DDR3, you can request Dell sales agent if you want to, but the heat generated will be greater and it could possibly be a problem for 14.1" laptop design. Check on Google the temperature specs between DDR3 and DDR2 (and 8600 and 8400). Maybe, you can check Dell2Direct blog.

So far, I have let my Vostro 1400 active all night long (sometimes when I fall asleep, the movie which I set it in repeat mode, will watch over me...heheh), and it does not have any issue with heat.

Updated: see the link for Differences between "G"DDR2 and "G"DDR3 http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/168

This post has been edited by eclectice: Mar 23 2008, 02:34 AM
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post Mar 23 2008, 12:01 PM

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can suggest me a labtop plz:THX

Brand:except acer,benq
Budget:below RM2100(after upgrade to 2GB)
Spec:2GB, X3100 or 7000m, AMD and intel also can

I found that compaqF762 and FUjitsu EM V5535(dunno is GMA950 or X3100)also below RM2000


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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Mar 22 2008, 10:13 PM)
I don't know if it's cheaper than PC fair but what I know is online is better than the DELL roadshow they had in Lowyat Plaza yesterday. I am eyeing for Dell 1525 but the sales people there really leave bad impression (of DELL company & products) to me.
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of course they want u to buy High End notebook frm them ..higher commission for them..thats y i never ever buy from roadshow or dell outlet.... prefer through phone or online....can negotiate till gaogao wif seeing them , paiseh mar... laugh.gif laugh.gif


Added on March 23, 2008, 12:04 pm
QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Mar 22 2008, 10:13 PM)
I don't know if it's cheaper than PC fair but what I know is online is better than the DELL roadshow they had in Lowyat Plaza yesterday. I am eyeing for Dell 1525 but the sales people there really leave bad impression (of DELL company & products) to me.
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of course they want u to buy High End notebook frm them ..higher commission for them..thats y i never ever buy from roadshow or dell outlet.... prefer through phone or online....can negotiate till gaogao wif seeing them , paiseh mar... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Mar 23 2008, 12:03 PM)
of course they want u to buy High End notebook frm them ..higher commission for them..thats y i never ever buy from roadshow or dell outlet.... prefer through phone or online....can negotiate till gaogao wif seeing them , paiseh mar...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif


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of course they want u to buy High End notebook frm them ..higher commission for them..thats y i never ever buy from roadshow or dell outlet.... prefer through phone or online....can negotiate till gaogao wif seeing them , paiseh mar...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Hmmm, i see many of you can nego with the phone operator in dell there. How to do that ? I need to phone them before do the online order or phone them after the online order ?

Any recommended sales agent ?

Thanks
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post Mar 23 2008, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(eclectice @ Mar 23 2008, 12:54 AM)


So far, I have let my Vostro 1400 active all night long (sometimes when I fall asleep, the movie which I set it in repeat mode, will watch over me...heheh), and it does not have any issue with heat.
I saw a promotion from Dell online sales, Vostro 1400. I am interesting with the spec and price but the design is not very attractive as I saw from the net lah. Could you share the pros and cons for this lappy as you have this one. thanks

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QUOTE(eclectice @ Mar 23 2008, 12:54 AM)
Yes, both Dell and HP try to compete for service & support for those with a business entity, like my company...hehehe. I like Dell because of the pricing when compared to HP on the same specs. For example, when you buy a Dell laptop + Microsoft Office Pro 2007 + 7200 RPM HDD, the price is cheaper than the one offered by HP (or Lenovo or Acer). Last time I checked with Lenovo for 7200 RPM HDD, they could not offer it.

On Geforce 8400 with DDR3 and Geforce 8600 with DDR2: maybe you should add other two: Geforce 8600 with DDR3 and Geforce 8400 with DDR2. My conclusion will definitely be like below:

8600 + DDR3 > 8600 + DDR2 > 8400 + DDR3 > 8400 + DDR2.

But why does Dell offer like what you stated? It is called pricing strategy and it could be an issue with heat design. On heat issue: If you want to have 8600 with DDR3, you can request Dell sales agent if you want to, but the heat generated will be greater and it could possibly be a problem for 14.1" laptop design. Check on Google the temperature specs between DDR3 and DDR2 (and 8600 and 8400). Maybe, you can check Dell2Direct blog.

So far, I have let my Vostro 1400 active all night long (sometimes when I fall asleep, the movie which I set it in repeat mode, will watch over me...heheh), and it does not have any issue with heat.

Updated: see the link for Differences between "G"DDR2 and "G"DDR3 <a href='http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/168' target='_blank'>http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/168</a>
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That's very informative, thx ^^
Erm so...the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 is juz power consumption and heat produced. In terms of performance it should be much difference right? How about the usage of cooling pad? Will it help cool down alot?
Izzit possible to ask Dell for such an offer? I mean i havent see any 1420 with 8600 in it seriously and im hoping it to have one tongue.gif

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pros, recommend me a lappie.

im looking for something to bring for oversea studies and size is not much of a matter cause i wont be hiking it around. i am hoping to run some cool games on it tho, like bioshock and stuff like that but the specs need not be stratospheric untill i can run everything on max medium would be cool enough. im sorry but i have the slightest idea about the lappie world so bare with me on some of the requests.

international warranty is somewhat a must,

my budget? maybe around 2-4k but preferably in the 3- 3.5k range.

thanks

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QUOTE(NicJolin @ Mar 23 2008, 09:03 PM)
That's very informative, thx  ^^
Erm so...the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 is juz power consumption and heat produced. In terms of performance it should be much difference right? How about the usage of cooling pad? Will it help cool down alot?
Izzit possible to ask Dell for such an offer? I mean i havent see any 1420 with 8600 in it seriously and im hoping it to have one  tongue.gif
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When I checked Dell online store today 23 March 2008 for Vostro 1500, the offered price is RM2499 with 1GB RAM DDR2. Add up 8600M GT with 256 GDDR2, the price becomes RM3126. But, when you choose 8400 or 8600, you must choose 90W AC adapter. Maybe you can play around with the options there to find the best price:
http://dellstore04.sg.dell.com/public/cart...=169960&sr_no=1

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Mar 18 2008, 03:42 PM)
Looking for a new notebook...need someone to recommend cause long time din get myself updated with the latest offering n techs

Brand: NEC, HP, Dell or others....no Acer please ^^
Budget: 3-4k
Spec: Can't really decide as I'm kinda outdated now...but must include graphic card
Size: Medium sized, 2-2.5 kgs, 14-15' LCD.

Updates:
1. Currently having an eye on NEC E6310 that comes with 8600M GS, is there any better alternative for this??
2. XPS 1530 looks nice...but what spec can i get for my budget??
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I think i've decided to go for XPS1530....but i'll call in instead of buying on9 cause i would like to get the alphine white colour n add 1GB intel turbo memory. Do u guys think it's worth??

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Mar 23 2008, 09:44 PM)
I think i've decided to go for XPS1530....but i'll call in instead of buying on9 cause i would like to get the alphine white colour n add 1GB intel turbo memory. Do u guys think it's worth??
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Alphine white with gloss finish is so ugly...it does not match the white feel of Macbook or Ipod at all...heheh...I know this because I bought one for Inspiron 1420.

And only 1GB DDR2 system memory? Better get 2GB or more if you decide to use Vista.

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Hmmm, i see many of you can nego with the phone operator in dell there. How to do that ? I need to phone them before do the online order or phone them after the online order ?

Any recommended sales agent ?

Thanks
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Joanne Teoh ....juz upgrade anything within Rm100-Rm150 and she able to giv u a targus backpack freegift....try ur luck ... i managed to get 1..


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