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x_barrage
post Jun 18 2009, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 18 2009, 02:36 PM)
Errrr....

I'm trying hard to decipher what you're talking about or if you even know what you are trying to say.... rclxub.gif
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In conclusion, why compare with Pioneer while the question is about Panasonic? So I can compare with Samsung LED if your want to talk about Pioneer Kuro.

My other statement doesn’t relate to you.

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 18 2009, 08:54 AM)
Why don’t just saying we’ll don’t see Samsung LED TV on action do we? I’m talking about general LCD vs. Plasma especially on Panasonic & I’m also Pioneer HDTV fan but the price always make me think twice. We might have some plasma better than LCD TV & there is also good LCD TV can match plasma on HD video, but I’m talking about general. Plasma always have high amazingly contrast ratio while Korean LCD panel usually can try matching them up on other area.

In my opinion still LCD is better for gaming & plasma for HD movie regardless HD-DVD, blu-ray or digital download/stream. LCD had sharp display for tense viewing while plasma had soft display for pleasure viewing.  For more clear picture just go to any electronics store & make comparison. Probably your eyes are different than mine so you won’t regret later. If you notice, there is always default setting for LCD TV on most game menu rather than plasma. M$ & SONY also would prefer LCD while make their game/console presentation.

Sharp is better known on it LCD. Aquos is their LCD HDTV brand. If you are buying for reliability & durability it was a good deal. However, I’m not saying Aquos will have best display. I have Sharp Aquos 46” Full HD with 10 000 contrast ratio & Toshiba REGZA 32” HD Ready with 10 000 contrast ratio. All I can say is my Toshiba REGZA always had better & brighter display than my Sharp Aquos. Since my Aquos is Full HD, I’m still using it for gaming. Toshiba REGZA is also using Korean/Seremban made LCD panel.
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Do you know Sharp Aquos is assembled in Malaysia too? rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 18 2009, 03:08 PM

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Don't know about final assembly on both Samsung and Aquos. So please tell me about Sharp LCD panel manufacturing factory & R&D also. I’m eager to know information like this. drool.gif

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:13 PM

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I was relating to amduser's claim that LCD is better for movie, plasma better for gaming. He didn't state about any particular model at all. So if in general, I'm just saying he hasn't seen a Pioneer Kuro in action for movies.

If you really want to compare the best of the best, I'd just pull out a Sony Pearl XBR projector. That'd own everything, nuff' said.

What you said on the other hand... has no relation to what I was saying.

And yes, Sharp Aquos is assembled in Malaysia.
Their panels, their internal circuitary, design, all done in Malaysia. The only thing it has in Japan is the R&D team.

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:13 PM

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currently very very interested in samsung's new Full HD series 6 range!! i went to senq and i must admit samsung LED tv look so so different than their LCD. but i must resist it bcoz i said i will skip LED and wait for OLED. hahaha


Added on June 18, 2009, 3:15 pm
QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 18 2009, 04:13 PM)
I was relating to amduser's claim that LCD is better for movie, plasma better for gaming. He didn't state about any particular model at all. So if in general, I'm just saying he hasn't seen a Pioneer Kuro in action.

What you said on the other hand... has no relation to what I was saying.

And yes, Sharp Aquos is assembled in Malaysia.
Their panels, their internal circuitary, design, all done in Malaysia. The only thing it has in Japan is the R&D team.
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bro i think you've reversed amduser's claim. he said LCD better for gaming and Plasma better for movies

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(FoxAss @ Jun 18 2009, 03:13 PM)
currently very very interested in samsung's new Full HD series 6 range!! i went to senq and i must admit samsung LED tv look so so different than their LCD. but i must resist it bcoz i said i will skip LED and wait for OLED. hahaha


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bro i think you've reversed amduser's claim. he said LCD better for gaming and Plasma better for movies
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You can never keep up to the technology unless you have a lot of money to burn. Just buy if you need it now nod.gif
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post Jun 18 2009, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jun 18 2009, 04:16 PM)
You can never keep up to the technology unless you have a lot of money to burn. Just buy if you need it now nod.gif
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i need a new full hd lcd tv for my living room so badly!! since the price is getting cheaper n cheaper. anyway my living room lcd tv now is also samsung brand but the 3rd series only HD ready and it was rm5000 last time for a 32'. damn it but that was years ago la!! I must get the new full hd series 6 asap
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post Jun 18 2009, 03:19 PM

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No point arguing with people obsessed with LCD SSJBen tongue.gif

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:21 PM

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I’m not arguing. I just want to keep digging since he/she look knowledgeable.
QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 18 2009, 03:13 PM)
Sony Pearl XBR projector. That'd own everything, nuff' said.
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That's an HDTV or projector? Does projector is same as HDTV? My hunger for knowledge still does not enough. Sorry to bother you.

Yes. Aquos manufactured in Malaysia. So they use their own LCD panel technology, which is R&D in Japan. Is it?

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(FoxAss @ Jun 18 2009, 03:19 PM)
i need a new full hd lcd tv for my living room so badly!! since the price is getting cheaper n cheaper. anyway my living room lcd tv now is also samsung brand but the 3rd series only HD ready and it was rm5000 last time for a 32'. damn it but that was years ago la!! I must get the new full hd series 6 asap
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I myself hunting a 5 series.. Must make sure my room is bright enough though


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QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 18 2009, 03:21 PM)
That's an HDTV or projector? Does projector is same as HDTV. My hunger for knowledge still does not enough. Sorry to bother you.

Yes. Aquos manufactured in Malaysia. So they use their own LCD panel technology, which is R&D in Japan. Is it?
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Not all using their own technology (panel wise). For 32" below it's certain they are made in Thailand by certain 3rd party. Some 32" and 37" are made by another well known 3rd party as well. Higher end models should be made my themselves, but I'm can't say for sure where, could be Japan. Final assembly usually takes place in other places like Malaysia.

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(FoxAss @ Jun 18 2009, 03:13 PM)
bro i think you've reversed amduser's claim. he said LCD better for gaming and Plasma better for movies
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I didn't man;

QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 18 2009, 12:08 AM)
no, LCD good for HD movie, especially blu ray and also HD gaming

plasma good for astro and normal TV
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jun 18 2009, 03:19 PM)
No point arguing with people obsessed with LCD SSJBen tongue.gif
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lulz...

We should all wait for OLED to go big and go full-scale as well as being cheap.
That would end the discussion to all panel technologies. laugh.gif


QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 18 2009, 03:21 PM)
I’m not arguing. I just want to keep digging since he/she look knowledgeable.
That's an HDTV or projector? Does projector is same as HDTV? My hunger for knowledge still does not enough. Sorry to bother you.

Yes. Aquos manufactured in Malaysia. So they use their own LCD panel technology, which is R&D in Japan. Is it?
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No problem.

It's a projector, one of the very best around.
Sharp manufactures their own panel and also distribute it to many others.

In the US, some of the popularly known third-parties like Westinghouse (sort of like our own brand called GC here, no comparison of course doh.gif ) uses Sharp panels. Their research and development team is based in Japan. It used to be Sharp back in the day manufactures their panels over there as well as in China. Rising costs moved them over to Malaysia. Their quality hasn't dropped a bit but instead got better.

Though there are higher-end models which uses hand-picked panels from the engineers themselves. Don't know if they are assembled in Malaysia or not, but most likely not.

Sometimes, it isn't only the panel which makes the deal. The internal circuits does alot as well, from correctly processing colors, to scaling, "useless" features, and what not.

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:38 PM

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No wonder Sharp usually put large at their Aquos advertisement; “Japan made LCD panel”. Do you believe Sharp advertisement saying their Aquos is no.1 LCD in Japan?

It’s hard to find 32” below nowadays. Does it related to their panel vendor or market? What do you think?

Final assembly for Toshiba REGZA is at Indonesia If not mistaken.

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post Jun 19 2009, 06:42 PM

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its allright guys...
i just bought the panasonic plasma...
staff price...
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post Jun 19 2009, 08:15 PM

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what i am saying is LCD TV good for both gaming and movies, while not perform well in normal TV like 8TV, RTM and NTV7 and also astro

but plasma perform better in normal TV channel and also astro

and i'm not comparing with some high end plasma TV, i'm generalize it...

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post Jun 19 2009, 11:47 PM

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Just buy new HDTV LG 47" LH50YR..awesome!.
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post Jun 20 2009, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 18 2009, 03:38 PM)
No wonder Sharp usually put large at their Aquos advertisement; “Japan made LCD panel”. Do you believe Sharp advertisement saying their Aquos is no.1 LCD in Japan?

It’s hard to find 32” below nowadays. Does it related to their panel vendor or market? What do you think?

Final assembly for Toshiba REGZA is at Indonesia If not mistaken.
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Not worth creating a TV for a size smaller than 32" now a days. Research has shown that 32" is the sweet spot for people who sit within 5-7 feet from the TV, which is also what most Living Room sizes are. Not everyone has a living room the size of a courtyard ya' know.

IINM, creating smaller TVs is also much more expensive than to create within the sweet-spot sizes.
Theres the perfect example of the Sony Bravia 22-incher (forgot the model), priced over RM1k. For that price, you can pick up a 24" Full HD monitor which does even better than the TV at all aspects, movies or games.


QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 19 2009, 08:15 PM)
what i am saying is LCD TV good for both gaming and movies, while not perform well in normal TV like 8TV, RTM and NTV7 and also astro

but plasma perform better in normal TV channel and also astro

and i'm not comparing with some high end plasma TV, i'm generalize it...

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Plasma technology is based off CRT.
So yea, they do scale better on low-resolution sources.
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post Jun 21 2009, 10:28 PM

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Hello, i wanna ask whether RM2.5k for sharp aquos 32a66 is a good price..or it should be lower?im in kedah..i had ask for rm2.2k but they say its impossible
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post Jun 22 2009, 08:29 AM

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It is good deal if Full-HD.
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post Jun 22 2009, 12:38 PM

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Requirements:
- LCD TV
- at least 40" wide
- preferred brands Sony, Sharp, Samsung but leaning towards Sony
- for PS3
- 1080P
- budget ±RM4000

in b4 LED TV
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post Jun 22 2009, 12:42 PM

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I would choose Samsung's 40" A530, it fits into your budget and performs rather well. If you don't mind Plasma Panasonic's 40" range seems rather good as well

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