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 ☆Fellowship of the Strings☆Violin,Viola,Cello etc., ~String Instruments Lovers are welcome!~

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Stuffi
post Dec 28 2010, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Dec 28 2010, 06:51 PM)
it's hard to make a conclusion without knowing your current violin's quality/condition. sometimes, you find RM900 violin sound better than RM1500 violin, and vice versa.

if your current violin has got setup problem, you can change bridge (RM120~150), soundpost adjustment (usually free). then, good quality strings (RM100+), good quality rosin (RM30+-). sometimes, fingerboard might not have proper scoop or overall shaping too. bow is entirely different matter, just like buying new violins, the more you pay, the better quality you get.

then, all the above problem might present on the RM1500 too if you don't choose carefully (along with knowledges and experiences), so you might end up buying another problematic violin.

at this price point, playability and setup is priority.
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post Dec 28 2010, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Dec 28 2010, 07:48 PM)
anyone tried a scarletti violin ?
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besides scarletti...... very soon you'll come across gagliano,hannover,skylark,valencia, dvorak, helicon... cry.gif ....and rm5k-6k violins with no names...... rclxub.gif
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post Dec 30 2010, 03:22 PM

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I want to learn violin but hard to find a teacher? any1 knw where to learn or who to teach at pjss2?
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post Dec 31 2010, 02:30 AM

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finally bought a violin from amadeus. brand's scott cao. am really happy with it smile.gif
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post Dec 31 2010, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Dec 31 2010, 02:30 AM)
finally bought a violin from amadeus. brand's scott cao. am really happy with it smile.gif
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thumbup.gif The sound okay? Handmade?
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post Dec 31 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Dec 31 2010, 02:30 AM)
finally bought a violin from amadeus. brand's scott cao. am really happy with it smile.gif
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rclxms.gif ............ drool.gif



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post Dec 31 2010, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(liwei92 @ Dec 30 2010, 03:22 PM)
I want to learn violin but hard to find a teacher? any1 knw where to learn or who to teach at pjss2?
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maybe you can try some in PJ...

-AmPAC: the plus thing about ampac is they had their own orchestra the last time I went, they had this big hall and own string ensemble/ orchestra so learners might have a chance to join groups like that.

http://www.ampac.com.my/

-The Music Professionals Academy of Performing Arts... also will be a good choice... They too produced many fine classical music students.

http://www.musicproacademy.com
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post Dec 31 2010, 04:25 PM

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the sound's good. better than some of the more expensive violins that i tried at guitar store and all. think its real value for money as the workmanship is pretty good. and yes it's handmade.
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post Dec 31 2010, 10:27 PM

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no doubt, scott cao is world wide reknown brand.
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post Jan 1 2011, 02:00 AM

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lol. i didn't that it was such a famous brand until another friend told me.
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Woah... How much does it cost?
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post Jan 1 2011, 08:35 PM

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got it for 900...apparently they changed the strings to something tat's about 140 and also gave a rm19 rosin tongue.gif
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post Jan 2 2011, 10:38 AM

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AWWW MAN !!!!!!!!!
It's a STEAL !

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post Jan 3 2011, 12:55 PM

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Hey there people,

I'm happy to found this forum here. I'm a violinist too.. ^^
I saw you guys talking about the purchase of violin, just to share with you all, i just found a store at the advertisement that they are selling Jez brand violin. haha i "ass itchy" go try out their instruments! tongue.gif

their lower grade violin only cost RM250 for beginner and till highest grade violin RM1980, i just tried their violin and my bro tried most of the guitar and found out their quality is so good although the price is so low! They even give discount when promotion time! hehe i just bought the highest grade violin with 15% discounts. so happy!! and my bro also so excited, bought a Adonis 41" high grade guitar only at 1.9k.. my bro say the same quality, he found it outside at 4.8k.. waaa..

Anyway, I tried around 3k and 5k dvorak violin before, i feel that the quality don't worth the price, i think they just mark up too much with "europe made violin". But what i heard is, most of it is China made too only with Europe quality control ><
Thats why i intro my musician friends to that store and many of them get instruments from there! I'm just so lucky to bump into this store, and all my friends thanks me haha i think they mentioned b4 that they got direct factory in China, but they take care the quality, that's why the instruments can be so worthwhile.
The store is quite far from me at Kajang but i found out that there are another dealer of them at Puchong.. Me and my bro bought violin and guitar from there. It is a music centre, strumento music house, the place i learn my guitar now! haha love the teachers there! cause they really make me so passionate in music! thumbup.gif
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post Jan 3 2011, 02:01 PM

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little ice, how long it takes you to become a grade 8 violinist?..

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I'm quite depressed because no matter how long and how hard I practiced, I just can't improve..

Unlike piano, you sit infront the piano for 2 hours to practice a song you can at least play until the end without mistakes but not so dynamically.

Violin is so different from piano ! Gosh... I think it took a DECADE or even a CENTURY (exaggerating) to master the violin.

I understand the theory of learning music, you cannot skip this skip that. You must learn in a proper order

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post Jan 3 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Stuffi @ Jan 3 2011, 02:01 PM)
little ice, how long it takes you to become a grade 8 violinist?..

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3 years sharp, i actually prepared my grade 8 pieces at the beginning of 3rd year, or was it like around 8 months before the exam?

to be fair, before i started the violin i already had good deal of musical trainings in general since 4 years old, as well as grade 8 in piano. so i can just focus on everything about violin, and sight reading was extra easy cause mainly just single line melody.

then, teacher and environment played a big role as a whole. my teacher is that kind of "the more you hardworking the faster you learn" kind of teacher, means, he will NEVER reserve any inputs for the students. if the student is ready, he'll straight spoon feed all kinds of necessary things to student. whether the student want to follow and practice hard, it's up to the student. back then, i was a full time music student too, so i have free time to practice all day long, and people around me are all being competitive (in a good way) so i was kiasu and practiced hard. brows.gif

not to say my teacher is suitable to everybody, obviously i reckon finding the right teacher is essential as a starting point, hence i highly recommend my teacher. mind you, i'm not his only student to scored grade 8 under 3 years.
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i am currently looking for a girl/ lady who knows how to plays violin to perform in an upcoming commercial.

Anyone here interested?

Kindly drop me a mail at erik.talent@gmail.com
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post Jan 3 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Dec 31 2010, 10:27 PM)
no doubt, scott cao is world wide reknown brand.
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.....is Eastman on the same level.. ? rolleyes.gif Thnx
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post Jan 3 2011, 10:51 PM

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hey dey....juz wanna share with you guys the new bow I just got.... its a brand called dorfler made from pernambuco wood. I'd spent my last 6 months working like hell and save like hell just to get this bow.

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Weight: heavy - As I loved heavy bows since I prefer songs from the romantic period. I need heavy bow to give much more expression than usual.
smoothness: not smooth - sad.gif this is the only thing I don't like about the bow. It required me to control it really well (extra strength wasted) in order for its flow to work nicely.
volume: sure dam loud.... brows.gif imagine a heavy bow without smoothness... Really love the volume produced.
spiccato: yea....can do spiccato albeit its heavy but had to control the bow really well as compared to light bows where you can do it easily.
price: about RM3k (RM2900++)

This is my first pernambuco bow... Well, quite like it but tbh its far from the high end bow that I dreamed of. Its good in playing romantic period song... but one has to control it really well to play the likes of classical and 20th centuries.

QUOTE(Stuffi @ Jan 3 2011, 02:01 PM)
I'm quite depressed because no matter how long and how hard I practiced, I just can't improve..

Unlike piano, you sit infront the piano for 2 hours to practice a song you can at least play until the end without mistakes but not so dynamically.

Violin is so different from piano ! Gosh... I think it took a DECADE or even a CENTURY (exaggerating) to master the violin.

I understand the theory of learning music, you cannot skip this skip that. You must learn in a proper order

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I had a student who finished Grade 8 in 16 months, believe it or not. brows.gif

of course, I wasn't the one who guided him for 16 months fully.... He enrolled in April. he has Grade 6 piano and good ears ( dun relaly know whether its perfect pitch anot, but if it isn't then he has really good relative pitch). In April, that was my mum started to guide in all the basics...how to hold violin etc... then he finished grade 1 scale in 1st month, then started to play grade 2 and 3 songs in 2nd month.... It was in August, I started to guide him... my philosophy in training student is 50% scale, 40% studies and 10 % songs. it means I will focus alot on scale and studies.

here's the deal. If you are grade 3 onwards...you should start playing kayser (a study) and focus more on 3rd position (try to familiarize your third position by continuously playing C major on 3rd position)

so in August, I trained his 2nd position...it took him 2 months to master 2nd position, at the same time, I make him master his Grade 5 scale. So for his studies, he played Kayser, positional study (a china book that let you master different position)...songs? I used suzuki ...

In November, he registered for his Grade 5 exam. In November itself, I started his Grade 8 scale ( to those who are doing Grade 8 now or done it....you will know only one word can be referred to Grade 8 scale- HELL ) . Its hard but he didnt give up.... I will wanna cry out if I was him. he is a tough guy at the age of 17 at that time. In December....I realized he mastered half of his Grade 8 scale.... I made him registered for his grade 8 exam.

now as a tutor...I realized...I have only 8 months to prepare for his grade 5 and 8 exam.... He finished most of grade 8 scale in January and I started his first piece of grade 8 song. but then I stop. I further trained and try to perfect only his scale and studies..... In February, I passed him to my teacher who got a shock when he knew that hes gonna take grade 8.... my teacher keep on saying he's not gonna make it for some times.... I said... he is not a skipper....he's got basics....that was what I had been training him for the past 6 months. Through hard work....He passed his grade 5 (which he didnt care at all ...lol) and grade 8....

now this student....how did he make it?
-he practised about 6-8 hours a day.
-he got good ears
-he's discipline and determine
-he listen to his tutor and so he practised nothing but basic.....
-he did studies....after he went to my teacher. my teacher gave him kreutzer (another more difficult study). and I became his friend eventually and lend him some of my studies....including Hrimaly, sevcik...etc.

see? everything is possible...but practise is a must!

QUOTE(aric6 @ Jan 3 2011, 08:59 PM)
i am currently looking for a girl/ lady who knows how to plays violin to perform in an upcoming commercial.

Anyone here interested?

Kindly drop me a mail at erik.talent@gmail.com
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mind being more specific? i.e: age range, is appearance important (i.e: face, height etc), is there payment for it, the difficulty of the piece to be played. I have some student's contact but more specific details is needed before I even asked them.

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QUOTE(aric6 @ Jan 3 2011, 08:59 PM)
i am currently looking for a girl/ lady who knows how to plays violin to perform in an upcoming commercial.

Anyone here interested?

Kindly drop me a mail at erik.talent@gmail.com
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I wonder why must be a lady or girl

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