Sulcata More macho but prone to pyramid if don't take care well

Leos definitely!

haha. now i am choosing wether to have a ulcata or leopard. how lah? both of u gave the different chooice.. haha..

given me... i like sulcata more... hehe...

I like both. Either one is thumbs up for me!

buy both la senang

other than this brand.....




can sumone suggest other brand of vitamins gud for torts ?

This post has been edited by inexsis: Feb 1 2008, 11:18 AM

You can buy these at Pets Safari @ Ikano

JBL TerraVit Powder

http://www.jbl.de/factmanager/frame_page.p...IdType=2&Id=371

JBL MicroCalcium

http://www.jbl.de/factmanager/frame_page.p...IdType=2&Id=372

Actually repti vite is good mar. My star was weak when i bought it from the store. This repti-vite is vet recommend to get wan. I'm still using it. It's good.

I went to look for repti vite & calcium, but mostly going to expire soon

Quite a useful article

Should I give my Tortoise a Bath?
from Tortoise Trust web site (the site has been down for a while)

People seem to have many different ideas regarding "outside" care for a healthy tortoise, that is, the part that he lives in!

One thought is that since turtles are "wild" animals, they needn't be bathed. Exactly the opposite is true.

Another misconception is preparations of some type (many of which are commercial) are recommended, to be placed on the shell, to "give it nutrients" and make it shiny. Many, if not most of these products, are potentially harmful.

Both the carapace and the plastron of a tortoise or turtle is comprised of living tissue. It needs oxygen and exposure to sunlight to keep healthy.

The build-up of soils, waxes, oils, or other preparations, is actually harmful to a tortoise's shell. The keratin and bony layers contain millions of microscopic pores, and things such as the products mentioned actually clog the pores, causing problems.

It is perfectly safe to give your chelonian friend a bath, in fact he/she might actually like it!

All one needs is a toothbrush, a tub of some sort large enough to accommodate the tortoises, and tepid water, no deeper than is necessary to cover the entire plastron, and a few centimetres of the carapace.

Allow your tortoise awhile to rehydrate itself, usually 15 to 20 minutes, then replace the water. Often, tortoises will often take advantage of this time to replace their water stores, voiding the old, and replacing it with fresh.

Take the toothbrush and gently brush the entire carapace, being particularly attentive to any areas of build up, between the scutes, and beneath the carapace as well, to include all areas above the head, surrounding the legs, and around the tail.

Repeat the same for legs, tail, and neck. Be careful of any areas not covered with scales, as these areas can be more sensitive.

Repeat the same procedure with the plastron, paying careful attention that all dirt is removed from between the scutes.

Finally, rinse well. DO NOT use any type of detergent, shampoo, or other product unless recommended by your veterinarian. Some of these products, while safe for dogs, cats, or people, can be potentially harmful, and sometimes even fatal to turtles.

Turtles and terrapins, even though most always in water, appreciate a shell cleaning on occasion as well. Algae, shedding skin, and normal peeling of the scutes in paper-thin fragments can all be removed from the turtle, allowing for healthier shell growth.

After your turtle is clean and dry, if healthy and on a good diet, should have a shell which shines all by itself. No additional treatment should be necessary.

This procedure gives the owner an excellent opportunity to examine the animal in detail for any problems, such as injuries, shell rot, or abrasions.

Regular, monthly cleaning and inspection make for a healthier, happier turtle, with less chance of potential for skin or shell problems.

i gave my tortie bath when i feel he is dirty, since all the poo stick under his shell. but will choose the day where the sun is a little hot. after cleaning will let him have a sunbath to let him dry.......

but buy 2 is very expensive lah. huh.... anyone want to buy together with me ah? hehe.... (i think i will choose leopard lah...) tat seller offer me rm5++ for a 4 inch lol... u guys think tat price ok ah?

by the way, did u guys give those 'worm medicine' to ur tortoise??

This post has been edited by dai86: Feb 1 2008, 01:50 PM

RM5++ for 4 inch... wow seems cheap

In Pets Safari they are selling leopards (2inch+) at RM500

If you can afford RM5++, why not save more and buy Radiata

I think if want buy can start buying now, after March or when actions are being taken, pet shops will not sell it liao

the person who sell to me is not a petshop lol. is a trader i think. i dun like radiated, cos it's pattern seems like star's one. haha... and radiated is so expensive. haha... scared i can't handle it. but leopard can easily adapt to enviroment. haha... (readed from chelonia.net) and i think 4 inch radiated will cost me about rm15++ right?? is 3 times the laopard price. haha...

leopard tortoise can die fast if the humidity is too high. it is more sensitive to humidity than stars, even in specimens 10" and up. i experienced that before.

You sure about chelonia.net as they are up for sale now LOL

Anyway most of those website are western country or northern based ( almost non are tropical based ) thus their recomanded species are mostly low humidity tolerance one ie Sulcata , Leopard , Herman , Russian ...etc as their country has a lower average humidity than ours ( Malayisa)

Better to hear from ex-keeper speaking from experience who are locally based ( kept that species here in Malaysia ) !!!

In Malaysia, I think 4 inch radiated can range from RM2200 to RM2900

But check out the price for radiata at other countries (I think the price is in US currency). These are new adverts







Disclaimer: I'm not associated with any of those people above

This post has been edited by dzi921: Feb 1 2008, 03:59 PM

Some old news but worth reading. So beware malaysians for posting out their tortoise for sale in the internet

Indictment charges crime of Illegal Commercialization of Wildlife
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/dec/dec23a_04.html





This post has been edited by dzi921: Feb 1 2008, 05:49 PM

Ok, this news is quite fresh

Illegal pet trade threatens freshwater turtles and tortoises
http://www.wwf.org.my/index.cfm?uNewsID=5200
08 Jan 2008





This post has been edited by dzi921: Feb 1 2008, 05:50 PM

dai: i checked on the net, there is indeed a caresheet on chelonia.org (not chelonia.net lol) that mentioned about leopard easily adapting to their environments in Africa



malaysia is literally surrounded by coasts..

dzi: i think you could use the spoiler tag to post those articles, looks neater that way.

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Feb 1 2008, 05:00 PM