Just add a note, when the lights go down.... the Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS beat all equivalents lenses.

I had used it a number of times at ISO1600 @ f2.8~f3.5 , 1/8 and consistencely good result as long as the subjects do not move around. Just tell them dun simply move la...

But of course, when the sun rise back again, Tammy shine again with its higher value for money la...

I got the 3rd party remote (wireless)
Very nifty gadget, but this model suits all kinds of prosumer as well as DSLR so I got it at rm50
Few weeks back I found there are other models supporting only Canon and can get it for less than RM30 where someone selling it.

Problem is I forgot where I saw the cheaper one(only support canon DSLR)

But for my version, search for a member "petunia"
He sells this and I did COD with him before cos we both same place

Kewl thanks for the info!

Anw, anyone else knows YL selling a remote?

I have to agree that IS is the only deciding factor for one to aim for the better one. But do remember Sigma and Tamron already has OS/VC capability. Do you think they are not looking at the EF17-55mm F2.8 IS USM? I can tell its already in the works. I just hope there is a replacement for Sigma in the form of 17/18-50mm F2.8 OS HSM EX built.. kekeke! Priced at RM1800-2000. Its gonna have tremendous value and the scale will change significantly.

Sigma and Tamron is look at a general 18-200 zoom range as a launching and test platform. Pretty soon, they will implement into 17/18-50 and 70-200/300 range. Its only natural they would do that.

I am looking forward for that to happen, so that I can replace my 17-50 with an IS version hehe, and also a cheaper alternative to canon 70200 f/2.8 IS

Yeah! I'm sure that is going to happen sooner or later. I remember Sigma releasing a lens somewhere around that 70-300 range but with OS. Forgot the model. Anyone?

But Optically, might not be equivalent.....

As in?

let's not forget to mention that the Canon EF-S 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM is nearly 3x the price of Tamron 17-50 F2.8.

I meant in terms of quality and compatibility......

Your ARE competiting against an L Lens..... And one of the best to be exact.....

Hehehe I hope Tamron and Sigma can at least match in by the inclusion of OS/VC with the focal ranges. At least come near 17-55 2.8 IS and at an affordable price. I'm sure a lot of people is waiting for this solution.

450D high ISO photos surfaced!
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=299673

Tell me how much 450D has improved over 400D

Wow ISO1600
Enlarging the file can see noise as well
But no comment cos I seldom take at ISO1600 with my 400D

Just take a ISO 1600 shot to compare.

Took one, I think this new 450D is better a bit at ISO1600
My photo take in more noise

Upload my humble shot to compare, sorry if pic not so nice
[img=http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3077/img7564tc3.th.jpg]

This post has been edited by Shoot@M3: Mar 12 2008, 09:48 PM

Hi vikingw2k,

Pls update my detail as below:

Canon EOS 350D
Tamron SP 17-50mm f2.8
Canon 580EX II Speedlite
Canon BG-E3
Lambency flash diffuser

This is my update kit liao.
The Sigma 24-75mm f2.8(return to Fotokem for exchange Tamron), Canon EF 50mm 1.8(sell to khalad) and Nissin Di622 speedlite(sell to Shoot@M3)

Hmmm the noise not bad, though its grainy but its not like the 350 where u can see color noise instead of film grain like noise

But now im not sure whether im going to get the 450D in the future or not, doesnt seem like much of an improvement =/

Rad... dun change to 450D la... go to 40D....

When can we go out yamcha? when are you free? haha... been so long talking about that d..

Wait for '50D' to come out la....

I AM waiting for it... Now enough dough to buy 40D, but not enough to couple it with a good lens. So decided to buy a kit lens replacement first... So by the time 50D come out... hehe.. probably i'll be getting it...