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post May 19 2008, 12:07 AM

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Ya, last time i also put 1 pair of FS together. I thought one of the fs is a female FS coz short arm, black face and abit fat abdomen. After few days, i check got 2 male inside.
Young male FS looks like female.. easily mix up. Mindstorm got post some pics of male before and after moulted... think see its teeth or underneath abdomen to differentiate male or female?
Young males tat just moult got white legs.


QUOTE(ass @ May 18 2008, 12:56 PM)
I am so confused!!
On Friday I went to hunt FS and I saw one male doing courting dance at leaf then this Huge female run out, so I catch the female(short arms,fat butt, blackface) first then the male(i thought that were a pair so I catch both, usually dun catch female cos let them lay eggs). 2 days later(today) I found a gold color male in the container and a moulted skin where I put the fat female with another small female.
This is so totally different from previously, white face male with the longish arms moultin into slightly bigger male, but not very big.

Doesn't this mean that all the ultra huge female FS I've seen are actually males?! How do I differentiate them???


Added on May 18, 2008, 2:53 pm"pek ka"(white leg) spider refer to those newly moulted male with translucent and shiny legs right?


Added on May 18, 2008, 4:14 pmHmm the head of the moulted male is 3.5 - 4 mm ...
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post May 19 2008, 12:21 AM

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Chaos certainly getting braver. But at this stage, he sort of remind me of Bighead. It has the size and might but not ferocious enough. One teeth being smaller can still put up a good battle despite the size difference. And in the fight with Hope, Chaos did not chase after Hope after the first break, it just look at him and then turn away. I wonder if all large sized FS is like that. True ferociousness is when the FS actually tries to eat the opponent displayed in clips when Jack vs 6leg, and Hope vs Jack. In other words, body attack. That is really first level ferociousness. 2nd level would be arm biting etc. If a large FS like Chaos or BigHead shows first level ferociousness, I doubt any of the smaller FS would come out of the fight alive or at least losing an arm.

Choas at least now bite the arm of Xinan, showing its feriousness is rising. But it didn't directly killed xinan like you said, but Xinan died of fight exhaustion. Xinan is your oldest FS, so fatality after a fierce fight is not unexpected. You can tell the FS is in danger of dying even during the fighting when its legs start to bend inwards after being chop many times.

I have no doubt that repeated fighting and also having contact with a female will to some degree, raise the fierceness of a FS by raising its confidence level and motivation. We have since it time and again.
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post May 19 2008, 12:34 AM

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Destroyer RIP. Morning still ok, only reluctant to fight. So I gave him some ants and water.

The new moulted male is big!! I will post pics later.
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post May 19 2008, 12:41 AM

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Viper, since you keep a record of the date of capture for all ur FS, you should also record the day they are released or died. Then we can see on average how long you can keep a captured FS. It will add to the knowleged base for the hobby.

Eg.
X2 (Xinan) - Feb 28, died May 17(fight with Chaos), 2 months 17 days

I didn't keep a record like you, now if I want to know when i caught my fs i got to hunt all over this site. I shall follow ur record keeping from now on.
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post May 19 2008, 01:30 AM

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List of spiders I trained/will train/currently training

Longarm-caught 19 April. Current status: alive

thickarm-caught 19 April. Current status: alive(now a blackie)

Destroyer-given on 26 April. Current status: RIP(ok in morning but died at night)
cause of death: unknown(black spider, old age??)

Leviathan- caught 15 May. Current status: alive(moulted into male on 17May)

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post May 19 2008, 09:48 AM

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Chaos size is about like Spartan. BigHead is bigger.

Chaos is much bigger than Xinan. Its teeth is bigger and when chop can bite Xinan arm/teeth inject deadly venom thru much faster or tear off its opponent. Chaos arm also bigger/wider and can grab tight. There are some blood spill out on the fight platform from Xinan injury. Like Scorpio arm break-off last time, there are a spat of blood spill out. Scorpio die 1-2 days later.

I feel its the venom tat killed Xinan or maybe lost alot blood from severe injury. Eventho i managed to breakfree Xinan and no arm broke off, Xinan looks stun and very fragile weak. Few secs later, Xinan died. sad.gif Chaos even drink Xinan's blood on the platform, i didn't record this. I also saw Xinan's underneath body part near its arm still bleeding after it died.

I don't think Xinan died due to old age after fierce fight. Xinan leg still can stick well and hunts well for flies. It movement still active and can see it try to fight back when got attack by Chaos. Chaos is just too big and stronger. Like i mentioned bfr, bigger FS can wack and kill smaller FS most of the time.

Actually, i just want to let Chaos spar abit and c whether it can improve in fights. I've feed all my CHOPs fs with plant flies earlier in the morning and they are not hungry or want to kill tat much. All my chop FS just chop and ran especially the smaller ones like Thunderhawk, Vanguard, maybe not in mood to fight oso.

Thunderhawk chop at start but got its left arm injured bite by Chaos, after that Thunderhawk retreat.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SfZOUFYrPDg
Chaos strong bite attack almost break thunderhawk left arm. shocking.gif

Only Oneteeth, Hope and Xinan can fight long abit. Oneteeth is bigger abit than the normal average size fs. I feel FS tat injured badly especially those that blood spill out alot will get very weak and die later. I saw some fights between my skool fren FS last time where his KING keep grab and chop continuosly till its opponent become weak and die, some managed to breakfree and escape but become very weak and died also later. Those FS are also big/large healthy type not old, arm bend or cant walk properly. After kena wack few times in fight by stronger FS, those healthy big/large male FS also will die.

I don't think all big FS will just look its opponent ran away. The recent fight Sigma vs Crossfire..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvYnghgwx5Q
Sigma don't even let Crossfire run away, it chased and grab bite. Crossfire died few days later.

My other big FS, Spartan last time keep on attack its opponent with fierce attacks and even chased Archilles till fall off the ring. Spartan fought with Pandan2 and bite hard on its teeth which later break off shortly after retreat. Spartan keep searching/chase even when its opponent ran away. Even Archilles retreat from Bighead grip but later it still wants to fight back. These large/big FS have the strong fighting will and wants to wack its opponent till KO. They are not even CHOP but i do believe they can wack CHOP easily due to their strength, fierce and fighting power. I'm confident there are more of this same type of FS just tat its not easy to find their habitat place if in big town area like KL..

Its just my suggestion for your big FS to have body contact with female FS to boost their fighting will. Some after body-contact oso still weak in fight, haf to test and see how its result for your FS. If bronze can fight better, good la.. Maybe can fight Chaos next time.

How's Nightstalker and Longman? So fast old already?
Maybe sick? I see few fights video only from this 2 FS.

Nowdays less FS fight video from you. I've no FS to fight so have to fight my own FS.. blink.gif

There goes my another good fighter Xinan. yawn.gif
Xinan always have strong fighting will, eventho lost to other stronger FS, Xinan still able to fight back fast and not kecut easily.

Hope you can post up some good FS fight video soon. Tues you off right? Can go hunt for more new FS.

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QUOTE(mindstorm @ May 19 2008, 12:21 AM)
Chaos certainly getting braver. But at this stage, he sort of remind me of Bighead. It has the size and might but not ferocious enough. One teeth being smaller can still put up a good battle despite the size difference. And in the fight with Hope, Chaos did not chase after Hope after the first break, it just look at him and then turn away.  I wonder if all large sized FS is like that. True ferociousness is when the FS actually tries to eat the opponent displayed in clips  when Jack vs 6leg, and Hope vs Jack. In other words, body attack. That is really first level ferociousness. 2nd level would be arm biting etc. If a large FS like Chaos or BigHead shows first level ferociousness, I doubt any of the smaller FS would come out of the fight alive or at least losing an arm.

Choas at least now bite the arm of Xinan, showing its feriousness is rising. But it didn't directly killed xinan like you said, but Xinan died of fight exhaustion. Xinan is your oldest FS, so fatality after a fierce fight is not unexpected. You can tell the FS is in danger of dying even during the fighting when its legs start to bend inwards after being chop many times.

I have no doubt that repeated fighting and also having contact with a female will to some degree, raise the fierceness of a FS by raising its confidence level and motivation. We have since it time and again.
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Added on May 19, 2008, 1:54 pmYou still keep you FS in case without holes? Make sure enough air so FS can breath.

The new spider Leviathan, is it a FS, last time u said its GOLD colour leh.
Better be careful if handle other type of spider, some maybe can bite through human skin.

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QUOTE(ass @ May 19 2008, 01:30 AM)
List of spiders I trained/will train/currently training

Longarm-caught 19 April. Current status: alive

thickarm-caught 19 April. Current status: alive(now a blackie)

Destroyer-given on 26 April. Current status: RIP(ok in morning but died at night)
cause of death: unknown(black spider, old age??)

Leviathan- caught 15 May. Current status: alive(moulted into male on 17May)
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post May 19 2008, 04:16 PM

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ya, it is FS, but the shine goldish colour(FS usually got green blue or bronzish colour). Now normal colour alrdy)
I kept destroyer in matchbox... Should have air from the hole at the sides. But morning acting strange, I show him thickarm he run away.

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post May 19 2008, 04:44 PM

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Wa.. matchbox? Matchbox got chemical stuff, not good4 FS.
Get other case la... plastic toothpick case.

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QUOTE(ass @ May 19 2008, 04:16 PM)
ya, it is FS, but the shine goldish colour(FS usually got green blue or bronzish colour). Now normal colour alrdy)
I kept destroyer in matchbox... Should have air from the hole at the sides. But morning acting strange, I show him thickarm he run away.
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post May 19 2008, 08:50 PM

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dam, I tot last time ppl use matchbox one??
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post May 20 2008, 02:33 PM

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Hiya. tat time skool children no money ma.. so use their dad's empty match box to keep FS.
I use Trebor round sweet case to keep my FS, i use nail to poke holes and keep my FS with 1 dried leaf.
I alwys worry that i might accidentaly cut my fs when i close the case, so i blow at my FS and close it slowly. sweat.gif
My trebor case bottom is flat and can become fighting ring. The FS will fight from top till bottom of the Trebor case if kena push and chop hard. tongue.gif

Now use see thru case much more better la..

QUOTE(ass @ May 19 2008, 08:50 PM)
dam, I tot last time ppl use matchbox one??
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Added on May 20, 2008, 10:04 pmMindstorm the link u put at 1st page incorrect.

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Hades vs CrossFire
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&...llxps888&page=4



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post May 22 2008, 01:10 PM

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Something wrong with my discs. The 3 free DVD i got when i bought my camcord now all cannot use. Only left one panasonic DVD which i bought. Hence i lost 3 good clips. 2 death match - Longman ate Takut, Justine ate Ioimm.
But now even Longman died after i fought it with Justine. Justine lost and injured but Longman also injured and died next day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32HIv5m_n5k

Another good clip i lost is i mated Bronze with a female. I took the clip from underneath cuz they mated inside my transparent container. Can see clearly the sperm sac delivered into the female. Really too bad. Will try to take another one if can.

After mating Bronze still kecut, dont dare to fight. But today no longer scared. Fought with Justine and won by throwing Justine high up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9xNHsPgZKE

Nightstalker died quite some time already.

ok, i find the correct link
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post May 22 2008, 11:02 PM

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After rest my FS for few days, try and check their condition.

Thunderhawk arm still not yet recover. Can see its abit senget abit when walk.. So cant let it fight 2nite.

Only fight those FS tat have recover from their injury and have enough rest from previous fierce fight.

Vanguard vs Eagle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgo6lO4ASQ

Sigma vs Oneteeth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=istVVVnOR5I
Best fight for tonight. Fierce fight. !!
FS tat won chased after the loser but its also injured and exhausted so unable to finish off its opponent. sweat.gif

Mindstorm, your Longman looks weak and got push till flew away from the fighting ring and fall down. After fight later died.. wa... really unexpected. rclxub.gif
Justine much smaller size but still win. Since longman died, it don't have chance to fight Bronze anymore.

Bronze looks more confident after mate with female FS, can defeat Justine without much sweat.
Maybe Justine exhausted and still injured from fighting with Longman earlier?
Since Justine size is much smaller, i don't think Justine can win fighting with a bigger fs tat have strong fighting will.

Wanna try fight Bronze with my Chaos or Sigma?

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QUOTE(mindstorm @ May 22 2008, 01:10 PM)
Something wrong with my discs. The 3 free DVD i got when i bought my camcord now all cannot use. Only left one panasonic DVD which i bought. Hence i lost 3 good clips. 2 death match - Longman ate Takut, Justine ate Ioimm.
But now even Longman died after i fought it with Justine. Justine lost and injured but Longman also injured and died next day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32HIv5m_n5k

Another good clip i lost is i mated Bronze with a female. I took the clip from underneath cuz they mated inside my transparent container. Can see clearly the sperm sac delivered into the female. Really too bad. Will try to take another one if can.

After mating Bronze still kecut, dont dare to fight. But today no longer scared. Fought with Justine and won by throwing Justine high up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9xNHsPgZKE

Nightstalker died quite some time already.

ok, i find the correct link
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post May 23 2008, 12:33 AM

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Ya, dunno why suddenly Justine no longer look healthy. Right now, Bronze is the most healthy, walking with jerkiness and alert. Justine is walking tiredly.

I think playing with the FS and letting them jump and move about daily is important to keep them in the pink of health. Only when a FS walk with jerkiness do i have confidence in it to be able to win a fight.

ya, Bronze can try Sigma although i think your Sigma is damn fierce.
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Leviathan and giant female
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Added on May 23, 2008, 9:55 pmThickarm vs Black
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAa4R5vUYmU

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post May 23 2008, 10:34 PM

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Wa.. your Leviathan looks big, bigger than Longarm.
Even its head and arms oso look BIG. drool.gif

Nice pics. rclxms.gif

It just chg skin rite? better keep it for few weeks 1st to strenthen its skin.

Thickarms can fight quite well. thumbup.gif

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Added on May 23, 2008, 11:10 pmAfter fight maybe got injured or theres some poison in its body not fully neutralized yet.
Oneteeth died today. Yesterday after fight still ok but look very exhausted. Still can walk and stick on leaves.

Previously Oneteeth lost to Vanguard also in fierce fight but few days later won Hope in short fight. Both Vanguard and Hope about Oneteeth size.
After rest for about 4 days, Oneteeth looks healthy and ready to fight.

I realized most of my FS died after fought with other bigger stronger FS.
Crossfire lost to Sigma
Oneteeth lost to Sigma
Xinan lost to chaos

Some Fs fought in fierce fight with same average size FS but still ok even after lost in fight.
Hope vs Xinan
Hope vs Crossfire - very fierce.. fought with powerful killer chops continuously from both FS.
Kaizer vs Nexus
Spitfire vs Nexus
Xinan vs Xonan
Scorpio vs Xinan
Crossfire vs Xinan

I do feel bigger size FS can inflict more critical injury to other smaller size FS during fights.
Last time when my friend feed his hungry large FS with other small FS. The hungry large FS just attack with few strong chops + grab tight the smaller FS, within few secs.. the smaller FS dead. shocking.gif

Of coz.. those exhausted, injured from previous fight FS will also die if fight with smaller FS.


QUOTE(mindstorm @ May 23 2008, 12:33 AM)
Ya, dunno why suddenly Justine no longer look healthy. Right now, Bronze is the most healthy, walking with jerkiness and alert. Justine is walking tiredly.

I think playing with the FS and letting them jump and move about daily is important to keep them in the pink of health. Only when a FS walk with jerkiness do i have confidence in it to be able to win a fight.

ya, Bronze can try Sigma although i think your Sigma is damn fierce.
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Some short FS fights. I feel Chaos will become chop soon.

Hope vs FS Rd1(24May2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf7EiFedEqM

Hope vs FS Rd2(24May2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnD-qeJIo9c

Chaos vs Thunderhawk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0VTLYpFLzg

Vanguard vs FS (24May2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhgCpRHvWsg
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post May 25 2008, 09:19 PM

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Sparring practice.

Vanguard vs FS (25May2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8naQi16dRbY

Eagle vs FS Rd1 (25May2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MYJZmAnROc

Eagle vs FS Rd2 (25May2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imW55zCZAVA


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Added on May 26, 2008, 9:03 pmYour nightstalker died after lose to IoiM?

I saw its video, Nightstalker kena direct chop few times..

QUOTE(mindstorm @ May 22 2008, 01:10 PM)
Nightstalker died quite some time already.
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post May 29 2008, 10:35 PM

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Added on May 26, 2008, 9:03 pmYour nightstalker died after lose to IoiM?

I saw its video, Nightstalker kena direct chop few times..
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yeah, that was quite a long time ago.

I had trouble keeping so many FS lately. All my fruitflies died because i shifted my metal shelf to downstairs room where there is no light most of the time. So i let go a lot of my FS, mostly females. Now i left with a 2 females and Whiteleg, Bronze and Quicksilver.

Leviathan certainly looks like kingkong to me.

Viper, wonder if you're still keeping all your top males. By now your Chaos is chop i suppose. Maybe soon we may have to take a break for a while. Let the places where we have comb come back to life. Hopefully we can have an encounter before that. Are u free next week?


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i like 2 play fighting spider also...
but for me it really hard 2 get..
dunno where can i catch it...
last time my dad also have play...haha
u all have any idea? where u all catch...
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HI,weekend I caught some FS.
but small and weak.




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