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 Need advice on repaying PTPTN loan, all ur News and Questions on PTPTN

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junxianw91
post Mar 24 2018, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Mar 22 2018, 03:58 PM)
not worth for 20%  cool2.gif  when u get 1% for years
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Please note that for those who got 1% is a flat interest rate based on the starting principle loan amount. Not necessary not worth it. You have to do your own calculation.


Example 1
Starting principle loan amount : RM16,000
Remaining loan amount: RM7,000
Remaining loan year: 3 years

Case 1:
Lump sump payment to clear the remaining loan amount and get the 20% discount.

Payment to PTPTN = 7,000 x 80% = RM 5,600

Case 2:
Assuming that you keep the money in EPF and get 6% return every year.

Payment to PTPTN = 7,000 + 16,000 x 1% x 3 years = RM 7,480
Dividen from EPF = (5,600 x (1+0.06)^3) - 5,600 = RM 1,070
Payment to PTPTN - Dividen from EPF = 7,480 - 1,070 = RM 6,410

you can see end up you will pay extra of RM 6,410 - RM 5,600 = RM 810 in case 2.

Example 2
Starting principle loan amount : RM50,000
Remaining loan amount: RM25,000
Remaining loan year: 10 years

Case 1:
Lump sump payment to clear the remaining loan amount and get the 20% discount.

Payment to PTPTN = 25,000 x 80% = RM 20,000

Case 2:
Assuming that you keep the money in EPF and get 6% return every year.

Payment to PTPTN = 25,000 + 50,000 x 1% x 10 years = RM 30,000
Dividen from EPF = (20,000 x (1+0.06)^10) - 20,000 = RM 15,817
Payment to PTPTN - Dividen from EPF = 30,000 - 15,817 = RM 14,183

you can see end up you will get earning of RM 20,000 - RM 14,183 = RM 5,817 in case 2. However, for case 2 your monthly positive case flow will be lesser as you still need to take out money from your income to pay your PTPTN loan.

This post has been edited by junxianw91: Mar 25 2018, 09:58 AM
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post Mar 24 2018, 02:04 PM

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If the remaining loan year is long, it is better to apply the auto-debit to get 10% discount..... not worth to get 20% from full settlement.

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post Mar 24 2018, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(junxianw91 @ Mar 24 2018, 01:02 PM)
Please note that for those who got 1% is a flat interest rate based on the starting principle loan amount. Not necessary not worth it. You have to do your own calculation.
Example 1
Starting principle loan amount : RM16,000
Remaining loan amount: RM7,000
Remaining loan year: 3 years

Case 1:
Lump sump payment to clear the remaining loan amount and get the 20% discount.

Payment to PTPTN = 7,000 x 80% = RM 5,600

Case 2:
Assuming that you keep the money in EPF and get 6% return every year.

Payment to PTPTN = 7,000 + 7,000 x 1% x 3 years = RM 7,480
Dividen from EPF = (5,600 x (1+0.06)^3) - 5,600 = RM 1,067
Payment to PTPTN - Dividen from EPF = 7,480 - 1,070 = RM 6,410

you can see end up you will pay extra of RM 6,410 - RM 5,600 = RM 810 in case 2.

Example 2
Starting principle loan amount : RM50,000
Remaining loan amount: RM25,000
Remaining loan year: 10 years

Case 1:
Lump sump payment to clear the remaining loan amount and get the 20% discount.

Payment to PTPTN = 25,000 x 80% = RM 20,000

Case 2:
Assuming that you keep the money in EPF and get 6% return every year.

Payment to PTPTN = 25,000 + 50,000 x 1% x 10 years = RM 30,000
Dividen from EPF = (20,000 x (1+0.06)^10) - 20,000 = RM 15,817
Payment to PTPTN - Dividen from EPF = 30,000 - 15,817 = RM 14,183

you can see end up you will get earning of RM 20,000 - RM 14,183 = RM 5,817 in case 2. However, for case 2 your monthly positive case flow will be lesser as you still need to take out money from your income to pay your PTPTN loan.
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Agreed, if your year is short, u are still paying the interest for the whole term, it will be more costly.
But if your term is long, and you just started to pay,
you do auto debit get 10% and invest the rest would be better.

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post Apr 9 2018, 08:39 PM

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If Insurance/Takaful portion is not paid on time, will that scar the CCRIS scoreboard?
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post Apr 9 2018, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 9 2018, 08:39 PM)
If Insurance/Takaful portion is not paid on time, will that scar the CCRIS scoreboard?
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So far doesn't seems to be effected
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post Apr 9 2018, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 9 2018, 08:39 PM)
If Insurance/Takaful portion is not paid on time, will that scar the CCRIS scoreboard?
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I think no,....for it is not a sort of loan whereby 1 is obligated to repay
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post Apr 9 2018, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 9 2018, 08:45 PM)
So far doesn't seems to be effected
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 9 2018, 08:47 PM)
I think no,....for it is not a sort of loan whereby 1 is obligated to repay
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Thanks.
The amount is too small to be paid every month!
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post Apr 9 2018, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 9 2018, 08:49 PM)
Thanks.
The amount is too small to be paid every month!
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You pay the Ujrah and insurance in one lump sum every month right? That said the PTPTN officer told me before insurance can even pay one shot at the end of payment.
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post Apr 9 2018, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 9 2018, 08:55 PM)
You pay the Ujrah and insurance in one lump sum every month right? That said the PTPTN officer told me before insurance can even pay one shot at the end of payment.
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Now, I pay at Portal using PBB Quantum MC.

I remembered last time I paid using JomPay, they don't adjust the insurance portion.
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post Apr 9 2018, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 9 2018, 09:04 PM)
Now, I pay at Portal using PBB Quantum MC.

I remembered last time I paid using JomPay, they don't adjust the insurance portion.
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Portal can include insurance payment.
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post Apr 10 2018, 09:15 AM

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can i change the auto debit amount after i register it?
want to increase the monthly payment amount.
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post Apr 10 2018, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Apr 10 2018, 09:15 AM)
can i change the auto debit amount after i register it?
want to increase the monthly payment amount.
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i dont think u can 'change'
u need to cancel previous one, then register new one. this is what i know sweat.gif

better you call ptptn n ask
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post Apr 10 2018, 09:39 PM

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quite risky as now ptptn and bank very strict abt the signature.
slightly mismatch then ur auto debit failed.
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post Apr 10 2018, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Apr 10 2018, 09:39 PM)
quite risky as now ptptn and bank very strict abt the signature.
slightly mismatch then ur auto debit failed.
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What age is now?
It's biometeric era. doh.gif
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post Apr 10 2018, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 10 2018, 09:51 PM)
What age is now?
It's biometeric era. doh.gif
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Got bio also need sign..at least for bank.. Nt sure bout ptptn
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Apr 10 2018, 10:09 PM)
Got bio also need sign..at least for bank.. Nt sure bout ptptn
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Banks does double verification: signature and biometric.
Especially during withdrawal since nowadays most accounts are passbook-less
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post Apr 10 2018, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 10 2018, 09:51 PM)
What age is now?
It's biometeric era. doh.gif
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I know right!!

Damn hate sign things, as I am one of those people always have mismatch signature issue due to my signature always cacat n different each time. So modern liao I don't understand why just can't biometric everything.
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post Apr 11 2018, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Apr 10 2018, 09:39 PM)
quite risky as now ptptn and bank very strict abt the signature.
slightly mismatch then ur auto debit failed.
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huh, i remember i only done it online, no need go counter eh?
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post May 1 2018, 03:09 AM

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Should I get direct debit now or wait till the next budget since the grace period is extended to 12 months?
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post May 1 2018, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ May 1 2018, 03:09 AM)
Should I get direct debit now or wait till the next budget since the grace period is extended to 12 months?
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PTPTN exemption next budget

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