If you're looking for a value for money setup by overclocking, then you're planned setup has some major mistakes..for a start, no wise overclocker will buy a top end chip unless there's something special about it, which for most cases including this one there is nothing special. All chips of the same revision and core code have the same design, so in your case any chip using a Windsor F3 with 1mbx2 cache will overclock similarly to the 6000, while being a lot cheaper (check here for a list). Board, Asus has traditionally been overpriced, go for something like gigabyte or biostar. Biostar is a good choice for overclockers, almost as good as Abit in features & price but without the quirkiness of Abit (Abit boards usually have some weird 'perangai' somewhere, but are the best value for money in terms of OC functions for their mid to high range boards).

Another thing, don't dream of overclocking a 6000 on stock cooler, its already quite hot at its stock speed of 3Ghz (~100W). And the typical limit for a Windsor F3 using decent third party aircooling in normal, non-aircon room is 3.2-3.4Ghz, there will not be much noticable difference from the stock speed.

It will run in single channel mode. You must pair all your ram to run dual channel, and anything more than 2 sticks (1 pair) will impair overclocking.

I knew that the new Stars architecture has a damned good memory controller, just that I wondered why it was losing in memory benchmarks. Now I know why.
What's really scary about it is when its on a dual processor system..Ram benchmark more than 10000 MB/s..

bro im planning to get the same board as yours in preparation for phenom. Id like to know what is the max vcore/vdimm that your board can pull of?

Let me check and get back to you later. It should be able more that enough.

I just downloaded the MSI K9A2 Platinum manual from MSI.

@Devilman
Is it the BIOS setting same as the manual??
IIANM, there are only few setting for ram timing.

-pWs-

hmm...i just read it too...
i guess is the manual not detail enough
i will give a C- to this handsome mobo's manual

edited: just check the layout of the mobo , notice that it has two phase power design for ram part ( while normal mobo only have single phase). theoretically this mobo is build to do insane ram oc

This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 06:13 PM

timing, vdimm is definitely insane. its has so many options until i dunno what set.

after some googling,
at last i found the bios dram configuration SS of your mobo
bro -pws-, you would love to see this



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hey wait...i think he plug his ram wrongly adi
if i'm not mistaken, to form dual channel on MSI mobo,
two sticks of ram need to plug in different colour dimm slots



check his CPU-Z SS, really single channel only
another typical case of didn't read manual b4 setup the rig



link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167447

This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 08:33 PM

Add me please, an update to previous result. I think this is the highest OC I can achieve with this proc without any errors.

5600+ X2 Windsor F3 | capriodimitri | M2N32 SLi Deluxe | Corsair XMS2 | 6400 | 5-5-5-15-23 | Xigmatek HDT S1283

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I wonder why quite a number of new records do not have SuperPi 32M or Orthos >1 hour? A few of them just post 1M SuperPi. Even if windows able to boot with such high speed, wont it be unwise to run at such unstable processor calculation?

Using F3, I notice vcore require is much lower to achieve higher speed. But since I am new in OC here, how some people can achieve such high OC (with dry ice and etc) but aint using it for daily use? Is it just for benchmark? For me, I cant go higher than 3.22Ghz with this proc without error. Even I pumped muvh vcore but it is still the same. It can boot up at 3.3ghz but got error at Orthosing.

I think the main purpose of OC would be maximize our value of the proc esp for daily usage, right? Hope to hear opinion from you.

This post has been edited by capriodimitri: Dec 23 2007, 08:36 PM

yep, must be diff ram slot color. i feel my cpu still bottleneck my card.

Hello , somebody who can help me ? Sometimes it no display and got sound 'beep' like no ram plug in . But i off and turn on again it can run My Pc Spec is like below :
Abit KN9 Ultra Motherboard
Athlon64 3500+ processor (AM2 Socket)
Kingston 1GB DDRII 667MHZ Ram x2 (Run Dual Channel )
MSI 8600GT OC Edition
Cooler Master extreme power 430w power supply
Asus DVD-RW Sata Drive
Seagate 160gb sata HDD
Seagate 80gb ide HDD

My BIOS setting like that :
My bios setting is like that
FSB = 252MHZ
Multiplier = x11
pcie clock =100MHZ
cpu core voltage =1.550V
Ram voltage = 1.90v
HT speed = 3x
cpu cool and quiet control = disabled

DRAM setting is 667MHZ
cas latency =5 clocks
TRCD=5 clocks
Trp =5 clocks
Tras=15 clocks
Trc = 19 clocks
Trfc0 for dimm1= 127.5 ns
Trfc1 for dimm2=127.5 ns
Trfc2 for dimm3=127.5 ns
Trfc3 for dimm4=127.5 ns
command rate = 1T

After that i got one question , i use this bios setting previously can overclock to 256MHz X11 (2816MHZ ) , but now cannot reach again if my ram plug dual channel , but can boot if i use 1 ram only !
This is my question , Thank for all the people can help me !






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i'm sure bro -pws- is doing his job well
those results with pi 1M will not be added into database

wow, looking for a debate?
your question is simple to answer
let's take an example,
you watch F1 racing?
one of the hottest race on earth.
But don't you think it's stupid?
create such fast and mighty beast but cannot use it for daily life
But yet so many people love it,
why?
Because those F1 drivers enjoy the game and people enjoy watching.
extreme overclock is more or less the same thing

seriously,ur vdimm is not enuf..one ram is ok..but not dual channel rite?pump ur vdimm to 2.0..n try trfc to 75ns

nice metaphore there...i like it..
mostly ocer will try their best to achieve best score in benchmark. however, for daily usage, with such high vcore, vdimm etc2, pumped, not good for ur hardware healths...
lifespan would reduced lo...

Thanks, I agree what you are implying. Me not looking for debate la, still new Just wanna ask a technical question, actually. Is it possible to OC so high and yet so stable for certain batch of proc? Example, mine is OC to 3.22, if I get another similar proc, will the result be same, or there is a possibility to OC to 3.4?

Why is it there is error, despite I have check all the following: vcore, vdimm, ram timing + speed, HT bus, temperature? Is it luck?

your vcore.... quite high adi
what's ur cooling? Mind to share?

from the SS, you are overclocking your ram adi...
what you can do is ..

a) change command rate to 2T
b) lower down the memory divider to 533 or 400
c) change trfc to 195ns ( if cannot boot, change back to 127.5, judge the situation by yourself )

look at your SS, i afraid your proc adi reach the limit

This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 09:07 PM

maybe is time for you to get windsor F3

thanks, glad to see you like it

haha, i know...just kidding about the debate
of coz, your answer is definitely a big yes
different stepping , oc ability also different
for windsor F3, always go for CCB8F 1st
batch number? it's depend on your luck for this part

your 2nd question. i would say that nope it is not luck.
debugging an error always skills and experience involved

This post has been edited by dblooi: Dec 23 2007, 09:24 PM

daxn like your F1 comparison bro! Genius!

"more than enough" <- this statement is not applicable to some people here

Anyways, id really love to know the exact figure of the max vcore so that i dont have to suffer what im suffering right now with a limit of 1.55v =(

Very nice for a MSI board. But i prefer DFI board

-pWs-

DFI? Expensive. Cant afford.