wah V4 already, bro PWS, do update my on user list with my current 24/7 rock stable setting



All hardwares are as of my siggy, except for the waterblock which is the whitewater instead of my current apogee GT (D-tek Fuzion tomorrow )

Been running this setting for a week 24/7, gaming, working and its solid as of now and this setting passed memtest for 24 hrs as well

its actually stable at 1.5v, but since my temps are still good even at 1.55v.. ive decided to leave it @ 1.55v for the peace of mind =)
Im sure u wont want to crash in the middle pwning in games xD

thx for updating bro.. but as for cooling.. ive ditched my cpns 9700NT and switched cooling approx 5 times till my current one already

You have to be very very carefull when you're dealing with temps below ambient. These sort of cooling method does indeed gives very good temps, but only for 1 overclocking session and not for long term use. If you're not carefull and didnt pay much attention to it and without proper insulation, the water from condensation will kill off your rig like roasted duck.

IMHO, a good cooling solution is always worth its price. Its not because of your current rig is powerfull or not. Especially these days where nearly all high ended 3rd party cooling is multi platform compatible, you can always use them again and again for your future upgrades. Unlike hardwares which will age very fast, cooling solution doesnt.

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Added on December 18, 2007, 1:25 amim sure you can go higher bro, most of us F3 users here are able to run 3.0Ghz on stock vcore.

With your 1.4v, you can most likely achieve 3.2Ghz stable already.

This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 18 2007, 01:25 AM

sigh sigh... totally jealous haha.
My board max vdimm is 2.4 and 1.55 for vcore. 3.5Ghz is the highest benchable i can get while 3.6 boot but only lasts 10 secs in windows

Gonna get new board soon with phenom

Actually, Iced cooling is rather cheap. You dont have to go uber high end, you dont need a reservoir, and you dont need a radiator which can save up alot.

1. Pump = Get any pump from the aquarium shop which is submersible. Cost only approx RM20-RM45 (nirox P3800)
2. Waterblock, look for some used or any cheap second hand waterblock will do, might cost only approx RM50-150
3. Bucket = im sure you have one lying around ur hse...
4. Hose/tubes = just use any that you can find from your garden or get some gas tubes from your nearest hardware shop which will cost less than RM5
5. If ur lazy to make the ice, buy 1 pack from your nearest 7-11 which will cost less than RM5 for ALOT of ice.

Now... mount the waterblock on your cpu and connect the inlet/outlet tubes, on the tube connectors to the waterblock, wrap it with a cloth and ziptie/tie them. If possible, "spam" those Silica Gel packets that you see in a brand new shoe box or any stuff u buy that will prevent moist. It helps a little to reduce condensation.

Then.. connect the tube to the outlet of your pump, and just dump your pump in the bucket. connect another tube to the outlet of your waterblock and direct it to the bucket as well or if you dont mind keep refilling the water on the iced bucket and do not want the hot water to flowback to the ice, direct it to a separate bucket.

Power up your pump.. and you have an "Chilled Watercooling System"

Most PCB these days can take up to 90c+, as claimed by crucial, their PCB is able to handle 85c. Brainpower pcb can do 100c+

Of course... an active cooling would help ALOT since these heatspreaders are originally designed to be cooled passively.

And another thing, please remember, do NOT use copper heatspreader unless you plan on using a high cfm fan on it. Copper does indeed absort the heat more efficiently that alu, but the heat stays in the copper as it doesnt dissipate as good as alu. Therefore, high cfm fans must be used if you plan on going copper heatspreader. Then again, the hottest part of the ram on stress is not the chip, but the PCB area near the gold pins.

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Added on December 18, 2007, 1:59 amhaha bro.. main safe la, lama sangat iced nanti mobo hangus
btw, great to hear my pump arrived safely to you
what are u waiting for...? go to your near 7-11 now, its open 24/7 xD

This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 18 2007, 02:00 AM

at least you can go higher with ur vcore

For the pump, id say get a slower pump for ice cooling and since you're only cooling a single component. In a setup like this, general WC kit theory doesnt apply entirely. You need to balance up the waterflow and the heat load that its brigging alot through the waterblock. Too fast and the water doesnt stay long enough in the waterblock thus reducing its efficiency and too slow... the waterblock will heat up the water instead of the water chilling it.

And when i say tube... i meant 1/2" tubes... these days in any decent water cooling kits... nobody use 3/8 anymore.

This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 18 2007, 02:05 AM

6000L/H
lol this is seriously overkill, im sure you are able to achieve better result with lower flow rate, try it =)

and i really do mean much lower, somewhere between 1200/1500L/H

this is exactly the risk of chilled cooling, applies to peltier as well. Good thing ur board is still workin.

bro.. 2000L/h for a single block is still kinda too much

on another note, its actually easy to to lap Am2, shine itself wont do much good because basically what you want is to flat out the non-flat surface.

AM2 pins are rather sturdy and dense, just put 2 fingers to the pins and start lapping, the pins wont bent easily...

its hard to explain how, take this for example, u drop a baloon on 1 needle and it will definately pop. But if MANY needles are arranged, they wont be able to break the baloon, more like pressure is balanced out to the pin masses.

Anyways, you dont have to use too much force, just gently slide the proc, its easy to lap.

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Added on December 19, 2007, 4:47 pmoh, and start from 1200 grit, for mirror shine go for 2000grit

This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 19 2007, 04:47 PM

E2160 or X2 3800F3 = definately 3800 F3, why? personal experience, heck i even prefer the F3 over E4300, despite benchmarking results, in real world windows environment i feel that the f3 is way more responsive and my apps loads much faster.

these days processor applications performance are not calculated by PI anymore. PI is just one way to bench your proc and should not be taken as the only result you need to grab a processor.

bro im planning to get the same board as yours in preparation for phenom. Id like to know what is the max vcore/vdimm that your board can pull of?

"more than enough" <- this statement is not applicable to some people here

Anyways, id really love to know the exact figure of the max vcore so that i dont have to suffer what im suffering right now with a limit of 1.55v =(

hehe, told ya am2 proc isnt hard to lap

can get from Ace hardwares, i got my 1200 and 2000 grit from there, already stock up 5 pcs of each for future use hehe.

Ace hardware which i know of are as below

- The Summit USJ
- Mid Valley
- Ikano
- Sunway Pyramid New Wing

wow... seems like the bios is packed with OC features with reasonable voltage.. and best of all, intergrated memtest !!!

currently in a very very very very disappointed mood.

Bought my MSI K9A2 today, just finish got everything up and running and even lapped my F3 and planning to push my proc further where my previous board limits me.

As usual, most of us sick overclockers here, the first thing you do when u boot up will be hitting the "del" key, i was no exception. Was happy to see LOTS of overclocking setting, but... wtf the max vcore is only 1.48!!!

Crap, if they dont release any new bios to improve this, ill be dammed. RM5xx mobo only to get max 1.4v....

Theres a weird thing with my K9A2, despite the lousy low vcore limit, vdimm can go up to 3.2V !!!

Bios is currently the latest version, the first thing i did when i notice hte low vcore is searching for an update. This is indeed crap. The board looks really promising physically, the PCB is extremely solid unlike many other budget board, layout is perfectly to my liking and i love the ram slot allocation as most of you guys know that 90% of am2 board out there has to use slot1/2 for dual channel, unlike intel's 1/3.

Im putting high hopes that newer bios will enable more vcore since its a very very new board. I will post up a short review on this board tonight.

of course 1.5 is lousy, im sure everyone that is willing to pay RM5xx for a motherboard does not intend to run it on stock clock. For that price, its definately an enthusiasist level and buyers of those board has intention of overclocking. I've already mail them about this issue.