I think u better choose other lecturer since got KSA student complaint about his teaching method in P1 (P7 don't know).

Actually it is very high risk to take P7 since the KL 2 best audit lecturer Philip Woo and Sheila also stop teaching this paper. I also don't think Jackson Chan will be better than Philip Woo and Sheila in teaching audit paper.

You try some lecturer got better experience, may Fung Chee Kang (FTMS) lah!

Actually for me, the most important is to get better lecturer other than study environment.

Ya, I agree with u, Sunway uses differentiation strategy, provide better study environment and longer tuition hours. But all this for me is not important.

Talk about the prize winner and high passing rate for ACCA, actually a lot of them not just appear in Sunway list, but also appear in KSA/MCO list.

A lot of KL lecturer prepare a lot of study notes and teach very good exam technique, but for Sunway only few lecturer can do this. That's why a lot of Sunway student also come to KL for additional tuition.

Even we didn't compare the price, we also need to compare quality of lecturer. For eg, in the 3 core paper, Sunway only got good and famous lecturer in P2, but KSA/MCO can provide good lecturer in all 3 papers.

Ha Ha Ha, I'm not KSA agent or supporter lah. But they truely provide good quality lecturer and acceptable tuition fees.

I also recommend some lecturer in MCO, FTMS or SEGi mah!

Ha Ha Ha, even I anti MCO, I also go for Sheila class in MCO ah!

I always said go to ACCA class follow lecturer, not follow college.

You can see from my recommendation list of lecturer, I also recommend some MCO lecturer wo!

You may be can try some lecturer in KL:

Joe Fang (KSA) - He got the very good technique in answer consol question, but the IFRS part is just ok ok only.

Keith Farmer (KSA) - He was very famous and experience lecturer in teaching this paper. According to his student, his notes and exam technique is very good. But I'm worry he can't finish the syllabus on time.

Haneef (Mc Orange) - He was very good in teaching IFRS, can give u very good fundamental and understanding in answer IFRS question. But for consol part, he is not so good, cos his technique in answer consol question too slow already. In his class, you will feel very boring. His tuition fees also expensive.

So, depend on what u expect in this paper. Difference lecturer got difference teaching style. You always must remember there is no perfect lecturer in any paper also.

Actually it is depend on individual lah! Some people feel that can take 4 papers study full time, but some ppl thing it is difficult to take 4 papers.

F5 to F7 will involve a lot of calculation. You need to spend a lot of time to practice the calculation. Beside calculation, you also can't skip theory cos no more optional question in this paper. ACCA know, last time a lot of candidates try to skip question on more theory and gain marks from calculation, so under new syllabus they don't allow student skip theory question.

For F8 Audit & Assurance, this is a killer paper in fundamental level. A lot of student die in this paper since Alan Lewin become examiner. You need to understand a lot of audit procedures for this paper. If I'm not mistake, the passing rate for this paper last time was a lowest in Part 2.

So it is very depend on individual. But for me, it is very hard for me to take 4 paper together even study full time. So may be u try 3 paper first lah if u thing u can't do it.

For lecturer notes, if you attend the class where he/she can provide you with good lecturer notes and teach you step by step to answer past year question, it should be enough for you study for ACCA exam. Text book may be only use for other reference purpose when u can't understand from lecturer notes.

For SEGi College, I think it is not a good choice for you cos only left Kwai Fatt in SEGi currently. A lot of ex-SEGi very good lecturer like Sheila, Vikness, Hannef already went to other college. So currently beside Kwai Fatt, I'm not sure other SEGi lecturer good or not. May be u can try my recommendation lecturers in below lah:-


F5 - Andrew Pang (Kasturi)
F6 - Alan Yeow (Kasturi), Siva Nair (FTMS) , Choong Kwai Fatt (SEGi, IRC only)-if he teach
F7 - Keith Farmer (Kasturi), Joe Fang (Kasturi), Haneef (Mc Orange)
F8 - Philip Woo (Kasturi), Sheila (Mc Orange), Fung Chee Kang (FTMS)

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Jan 8 2008, 10:34 PM

Small mistake only, why u so take it so serious?

Ya, I agree, we just discuss only. If I make a mistake, then just ask me correct it and no need to come out some word look like so serious.

Then u just ask me to correct it lo!

I just provide small mistake information only and not give everything wrong.

Any way, I would like to say sorry for the small mistake information if u still want to take it so seriously.

Keith Farmer - Suppose to start his 1st class on 10/1/2007 but suddenly received SMS said cancelled. Somebody said his teaching method and exam technique was very good.

Joe Fang - Very good in Consol, but just ok ok only in IFRS.

Hannef - Very good in IFRS, but not so good in Consol. His method to answer consol question too slow. He is quite boring lecturer also and I feel very sleeply during I attend his 2.5 in SEGI. And his tuition also very expensive.

Conclusion, both also good lah, but depend on wat u expect from them lo!

Ya, I agree. Joe Fang have very good technique in answer calculation question in F7.

Beside that, I suggest also student don't skip reading IFRS in F7, even 75% for this paper is on calculation. The reason was when student go to P2, examiner will require student must very strong and good understanding in IFRS.

I know that a lot of student try to skip theory on F7/2.5. That's why when they go to P2/3.6 will feel very hard. So may be student attend Joe Fang class for exam and borrow F7/2.5 notes from Haneef student just for read and understand the IFRS.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Jan 14 2008, 10:37 AM

Should be confirmed 17/1/08 for P2, hope won't be cancelled. I will check with KSA again tomolo.

Email to him said u are ACCA student and ask him come back to teach IRC, I think he will give u some discount.

But if u photostat his text book, please don't show him if you attend his class. Cos he will very angry when see people photostat his book.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Jan 15 2008, 04:29 PM

But I remember during I joint his normal class, he bought the Kaplan Revision Kit for us to photostate. Ayuh, photostat his text book cannot, but photostat other text book is OK lah!

I think any student need to attend his IRC, better email to him lah! May be yours also ask TARC College P6 student email him also cos I know a lot of TARC student take P6 this sitting.

Just start Keith Farmer P2 class yesterday. Both his teaching method and notes also good and easy to understand. But 1 problem was his language..........the way he talk very fast, I miss out some wording he present to us.

Basically he is good, but we must try to accept the way he speak.

According to his notes, he will teach consol 1st.

Ya, I know more than you.

Both consol and FRS also important in this paper. I think for consol, better have a express method to answer consol question, otherwise it will spend a lot of time until we can't do or finish other question.

Lecturer like Haneef is very good in this paper, but his technique to answer consol question very slow.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Jan 19 2008, 01:31 AM

We need to attend the IRC oso if sign up 2nd term course.

His notes is more on Chart format, w/o his explaination, I think is hard for u to understand.

Actually he teaching style is more on calculation than theory. He is very expert in calculation, but no so good in theory.

You better don't miss his class also, cos in one day he can teach u a lot of calculation. For theory part, your level is not difficult. May be you buy the Kaplan Revision Kit, inside a lot of theory question, I think it can assist you to answer the theory question.