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post Feb 15 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(crazyguuy @ Feb 14 2008, 07:21 PM)
Thanks guys for all the ADVICE !!  notworthy.gif

Yesterday, I have spend a few hours went through Paper P3 (Foulklynch) ....
wow, the syllabus so wide blink.gif , got IT, Human resource, Strategic decision, Ethics etc. Its like 4 paper in ONE !!

I know ACCA is tough ! sad.gif  However, I wish to complete ACCA in the shortest time (I got my own reason)

What I felt that is even the lecturers are just guessing what the examiner wan. They may or may not actually know the KEY TOPIC.
Unless the class is conduct by the examiner  , ONLY the examiner know what will came out !:P

So, anyone can do an anaysis of current P1 , P2, P3 examiners ?
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Ha Ha Ha, examiner cannot conduct any class for his paper but only can give Seminar. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Ya, I agree with u, lecturers only are just guessing what the examiner want. So sometimes the examiner will come out one or two not hot topic in the exam.

But based on their experience, they can tell u the technique to earn each marks from the exam. A good experience and responsibity lecturer will teach u step by step to answer exam question. They will tell u how to answer when see difference type of question.

Based on their experience and seminar from examiner, they will know the favourite topic from examiner. And beside make u understand for each topic, they also will tell u what is the important KEY WORD in answer question.

Nowaday also, the lecturer do a lot work for student. A lot of lecturer do their own study notes for student. With the good study notes, u no need to study text book by hard. Some of the lecturer even develop their own answer for the past year question for student.

So even the lecturer can't help u 100% for the exam, but with all this thing, he/she already help u a lot. And you must remember, a lot of student fail exam not because of lecturer not good, but is because of themself not done so good during the exam.

ACCA is difference from Degree course. If u want to complete it within a short period, my advise is u better go to attend the class. Even with the lecturer, there was no gurantee pass, but without lecturer, you will feel that more difficult to pass.

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post Feb 15 2008, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(mracca @ Feb 15 2008, 12:09 AM)
My comments on the paper:
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The professional levels will become much harder.

P2 compared to P1 and P3, I suppose all are the same in terms of effort.
In terms of spotting P2 and P3 is easier
In terms of those with computational interest, P2 should be easier

As far as I remember, the lecturers will only say the paper is hard so as to increase your effort in that paper.

I suggest that each person should conduct your own SWOT before allocating resources (time) for the papers.

Those that are weak in theory, slow down and take your time cause the whole professional level is full of theory
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Actually, we can't said the prof paper is more difficult or more easy. Just for new syllabus, ACCA put more theory into practical. They want the student know more on application than study theory by hard.

I can give u a example also, my friend go to do P6 last sitting. B4 he actually enter for exam, he feel that problem is not much to handle this paper cos he get 48 marks in June 07. And also his lecturer Chow Chee Yan told student P6 cut down a lot of specialise industries, so sholud be easier than old 3.2. That day after he go for exam, he was very disappointed cos the question very practical until he don't know how to advise. But look like the question so hard, I really don't understand how can Chow Chee Yan go to tell student P6 should be easier than old 3.2?

As you can see from the Pilot paper and Dec 07 PYQ, the question was very practical as compare to old syllabus. Even you are very strong in theory, not means that you can do very well in P1 and P3, cos study theory and answer question is difference story. And also for those strong in calculation, not means that they can done well in P2, cos consol part for P2 can be very confuse until they do a lot of mistake in the qusetion.

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post Feb 15 2008, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinlee1983 @ Feb 15 2008, 10:49 AM)
I also have friends that get 49% in audit paper.
After that study very hard and did a lot of revision
Next time she able to score 49% again  cry.gif

After that ,she went to attend the full time class again and studied advance audit.
In that sitting,the question is easy for her,
after the result out , she get 44%

And she took this audit paper at last sitting, and she said is very difficult.
We will know the result at 18tfeb.
I think she will pass at this sitting ,because she said it is difficult.
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Which paper? 2.6/F8 or 3.1/P7?

But as I told u b4, 2.6/F8 passing rate very low. A lot of student feel that done well during the exam, but when result out fail! cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Hope you can pass in 1 sitting lah!
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post Feb 15 2008, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(VpIc @ Feb 15 2008, 11:37 AM)
examiners giving seminars will benefit us all. but had you ever seen an examiner giving a seminar in malaysia?
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If FOC, then go lah! But if charge u, better done waste your money.

I went to 3.2 examiner seminar b4, what he try to tell u was how to answer the exam question and some exam technique. But all this thing, Kwai Fatt already told us during his normal class.

The examiner won't tell u the KEY TOPIC cos he need u to study the whole syllabus. mad.gif mad.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Tan19860201 @ Feb 15 2008, 06:47 PM)
Yes.. Newly joined MCO...

Just discover a good college in KL, although facilities not so good..
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Ya, MCO lecturer good but very expensive. Their tuition fees can't accepatable in KL area. 3 core paper school fees, RM1000++ per subject.

P6 - Chow Chee Yan(RM990) tuition fees more expensive than Choong Kwai Fatt (RM920), but his study material less than Kwai Fatt. Some more Chow Chee Yan won't teach u the whole syllabus for P6.

MCO really makan orang. If I got better choice, I won't go for any paper in MCO.
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post Feb 16 2008, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 16 2008, 11:18 AM)
huh? got some1 more expensive than CKF???
wah lau...

although i dun know about others, im thinks CKF is the best tax lecturer.
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Actually I'm not sure about Chow Chee Yan teaching method, cos I never attend his class b4. I'm only attend Kwai Fatt class.

I got friend attend both Kwai Fatt and Chow Chee Yan class b4. Based on his comment, he said Kwai Fatt is better on teaching the basic concept, exam technique and some experience in practice. Normally, Kwai Fatt can finish the syllabus on time, but due to too many study material from him, so some student feel that very hard to finish study it.

On the other hand, Chow Chee Yan is teaching more detail than Kwai Fatt for each topic. His explaination was more detail than Kwai Fatt. But you got the risk when attend his class, cos he only teaching the IMPORTANT TOPIC for exam due to the time was limit. He skip a lot of small topic. So it is very riskly, cos 3.2/P6 examiner always like to come out some topic where it is not so hot in the exam.

On summary, Kwai Fatt method was more on Practice + Exam Technique, Chow Chee Yan method was more focus to Exam.

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post Feb 17 2008, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(VpIc @ Feb 17 2008, 08:52 AM)
i heard from one of my friend (attended Mr Chow Chee Yan's class) that he asked a stupid question as follows:

Can I charge you if you ask questions?
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If I'm him/her, then I'll ask back Chow Chee Yan as follow:

Can you paid back now, if I don't want to attend your class anymore?


This Chow Chee Yan already expensive, somemore sombong than Kwai Fatt. He don't have responsibility to student if ask question like that.

But MCO is like that, always look at the money first.

I think P6 student better email to Kwai Fatt, ask him come back to teach IRC for June. Don't give chance to Chow Chee Yan open 2nd class.
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post Feb 17 2008, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 17 2008, 01:37 PM)
All the best to ACCA student...

this june CKF dun have IRC??
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Ya lo, but if more student email to him, I think he will be back to teach.
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post Feb 18 2008, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinlee1983 @ Feb 17 2008, 02:38 PM)
I always e mail and call him to teach
but he said ,save money to go other, cause he not free to teach at this june08 cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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If only 1 student, he will not be back. You should ask any of ur P6 friend email oso. Email is FOC mah!

I got the experience that he said stop teaching for June 2006, but finally a lot of student email to him, then he come back to teach 3.2. Then I pass this paper in that sitting oso.
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post Feb 18 2008, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(rachelmay1402 @ Feb 18 2008, 03:40 PM)
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i passed all my papers

*thanks Miss Sheila, Miss Menon and Mr Michael

hmm anyone know whether Mr Choong will conduct IRC coming sitting
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Congratulation.

You email him lo, kwaifatt@yahoo.com. Ask ur P6 friend email oso, more student, then he will be back! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Feb 18 2008, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(peng123 @ Feb 18 2008, 04:30 PM)
seem a lot peoples passed p1,p2 and p3.......wahhhhhhhhhhh

so geng.. congras notworthy.gif  flex.gif  notworthy.gif
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congras........

look like a lot of student pass P1 - P3, but me............go back home only watch lah!
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post Feb 18 2008, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlee1983 @ Feb 18 2008, 05:00 PM)
my result is poor cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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How, pass all paper with 50?


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QUOTE(peng123 @ Feb 18 2008, 04:59 PM)
why don wan watch now  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Now still in office, dun want to be sad until can't work. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Feb 18 2008, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Xyn @ Feb 18 2008, 05:21 PM)
congratulation. you are oso graduating!
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He still got options papers to go! rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 18 2008, 10:45 PM

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I expected to pass P1, but fail. doh.gif doh.gif

I expected to fail P3, but pass. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Feb 18 2008, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(coolly @ Feb 18 2008, 10:47 PM)
no need waste your money on that..if they can pass u,they will pass u...
this shows ACCA sometime cannot be expected..

so try again lo this sitting and become prize winner..hehe brows.gif
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I remember Kwai Fatt told me when new syllabus coming, the 1st and 2nd sitting should be more easier. See so many student pass P1 - P3 today, may be what Kwai Fatt said is correct oso!

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QUOTE(nadia_0077 @ Feb 18 2008, 11:21 PM)
I wonder why you want to come to the extent of 'begging' . coz I passed my paper on the 2nd attempt after attending Chow Chee Yen's IRC in McO. I failed my 1st attempt under the conduct of Chung KF.
Mr Chow was very helpful and clear during explanation. kinda feel bad that i asked him questions nearly every break time and email him one day before exam . Surprisingly he replied !!  Chung KF sometimes bullshit too much with his stories and i think he needs to improve his broken english. coz in this accounting profession, we not only have to be professional, we have to 'sound' like a professional !

Im sure a big fan and supporter for Mr Chow who has helped me to pass my P6 ! You guys could reach him at chowcy@streamyx.com

Good Luck guys!
Nadia in one of the Big 4 icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif  biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif  here icon_idea.gif


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I think Mr Choong must have paid you well for this. Seriously I think you should be focusing more on your studies, bro !!  
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Then I think Mr Chow Chee Yan oso paid u a lot lo!

I'm not said Chow Chee Yan not good, but the fees quiet expensive until Makan Orang. RM420, study material less than Kwai Fatt and no tea break. And I know that he only cover the important topic even during normal class.

I dun think broken language is a problem cos exam not test ur language, the most important was understanding.

Last thing, u make a BIG MISKTAKE. Cooly already graduate since 2004. So, how Kwai Fatt paid her?

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QUOTE(nadia_0077 @ Feb 19 2008, 12:14 AM)
Then i also think you are very funny loh coz you are not making any sense here. If Cooly graduate since 2004, why is she doing in this chat, really got nothing to do issit? most of the graduates, working now, if in accounting firm, and i assume from 2004 until now, shd be at least a senior woudnt even have time for this!

and i guess you have made BIG MISTAKES here to assume that Kwai Fatt cant pay her even if she ald graduates since 2004. (not that i mean that but pls think in a more mature and practical way). Secondly, if you think that language is not a prob, may i assume that your english is also sth like his ? then have u figured out or know some world prize winners on y and how some most of them think english is so very important for them, not only to
pass the exam, but also as a bonus point for the future career, scoring as well !

Are you ald working ? So based on what you have said, Im very sorry if i've assumed that i think you have
not. As im working in one of the biggest accounting firm, english is so 'bloody' important,
not only abt our communication with ppl, it concerns alot abt out career advancement and business
opportunities as well! 

As a lecturer, it is very important to teach, cultivate and nurture the students, not only in order, to pass exams
also to prepare them for their future career!!!  Students are very influenced by how the lecturers speak and behave,if you have observed.  Thats what my dad, who is a university professor that told me these and he made
sure i speak GOOD english . Thanks


My thoughts for the day : I think you may be the one that Kwai Fatt is paying, not Cooly
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Can I asking u very simple question:-

1) What is the purpose u go for class? To understand lecturer speaking or listen he/she speak with wonderful language? If u want the wonderful language, u better go to find Mat Salleh lecturer. Their language sure very good.

2) I agree my language was not good as you, but I can communicate to my boss very well. You think your boss interest to listen how good ur language ah? As long as you speak something, make it simple and understand, he will be accept. Or may be you think with wonderful language, your promotion chance will higher mah?

3) Do you know that Kwai Fatt earnings was more than your BIG 4 partner? Do you know that his earning more than your other lecturers oso? But your lecturer and BIG 4 boss language better than him wo!

One more last thing, please dun simply assume "lecturer paid student money for advertising". I can tell u, if Kwai Fatt come back to teach P6, sure his class will full even without Cooly and me to recommend him. His student sure will more than Chow Chee Yan.

Anyway I would like to say sorry to you oso, cos wrongly assume Chow Chee Yan paid u for advertising.


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QUOTE(kelvinlee1983 @ Feb 19 2008, 09:41 AM)
u said that u want to leave this forum, but u went back to reply this msg?
This is so call "last time", this is ur defination for "last time"

And pls respect ppl, dont call ppl a dog!  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

This is wat ACCA student should said?
IF u behave like that, other ppl will think that this is ACCA student?

ALL ACCA STUDENT will embrased bcs of u .

害群之马
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His post already自相矛盾!

He keep on to comment about Kwai Fatt broken language, but how come he will said his favourite lecturer can be Andrew Pang? All the Andrew student oso know how good are Andrew's English (I'm a both Andrew and Kwai Fatt student)! If like that, Andrew as a ACCA lecturer for so many year should go to correct his english lo!

But if Andrew read his post, I think Andrew will very sad. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

For me, I will recommend any lecturer if he/she is good even I'm not his/her fans. Even I don't like MCO, but I oso recommend Sheila, Haneef and Chow Kim Tai to student.

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post Feb 19 2008, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Bank @ Feb 19 2008, 12:03 PM)
how can this NADIA speak so unprofessionally n use so many "beautiful" words!!!! somemore stress tat she is from big 4. its really embarrassing tat u r ACCA student n from big 4.

just to clarify ACCA student and big 4 staff is not like tat! cos im ACCA affiliate and working in big 4 oso!

speak good english doesn't mean tat high executive will look "HIGH" for u. though its one of the important factor. even u can speak very beautiful english but have such a "BEAUTIFUL" attitude and EQ, do u think ppl will appreciate u and promote u? no! don forget when u move to more senior level, ppl will under u n work for u. if u have such a low EQ n attitude, ppl will complain n leave. no one wish to serve u. just like my last leader. we all boycott her!!! n she left the company!!!

i think she really has narrow minded n think tat speak a good english will adore by high executie. there r so many others factors on it. wonder how she pass her ACCA exam.....  shakehead.gif  sweat.gif
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May be she think go to work, ACCA + BIG 4 + Wonderful English, then promotion and increment will be higher. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Some more she think Kwai Fatt need this type of advertisment to get student. Ha Ha, very funny! I think may be she already fall love to Chow Chee Yan.



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QUOTE(Zoeee @ Feb 19 2008, 12:57 PM)
Ya, any advices? I'm taking p1,2,3,4... for june. thx  icon_question.gif
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P1 - Philip Woo (KSA), Sheila (Mc Orange)

P2 - Keith Farmer (KSA), Joe Fang (KSA), Haneef (Mc Orange), Ms Menon (Sunway)

P3 - Parmindar (KSA)

P4 - Daniel Ho (FTMS), Andrew Pang (KSA)


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QUOTE(el55sh @ Feb 19 2008, 01:39 PM)
Hi all,

Anybody knows whether we can take papers non consecutively for the ACCA new syllabus. Which means that, can I take P1 and P3 instead of P1 and P2 if I haven't attempt any of the papers?

Thanks in advance for anybody's advice!  biggrin.gif
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Ya, for same module paper, you can have max 4 paper in any order. You can take P1 and P3 w/o P2.

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