Widescreen LCD Monitor for Xbox 360, Help me out by 2008... (extended time!)
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 Dec 8 2007, 01:12 PM
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Lai lor come get from me DELL's LCD
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Dec 8 2007, 02:15 PM
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About to hit the "Buy" button on the Dell 27".... guys... but I know this IS what I want
RM2,999....  I negotiate with my dad + mom, they're willing to help me to pay for 12 months... RM100 from me while RM150 from them.... What do you guys think... I am not around on Monday and the RM1,100 less offer ends Monday !!! |
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Dec 8 2007, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(tripleB @ Dec 8 2007, 05:37 AM) Dude, it's a monitor. It's kind of expected that you'll sit nearer to the monitor. At normal PC viewing distances, you do appreciate the subtle improvements 1080P brings to gaming. You won't play a PC game from the couch at a distance of 5ft or more. Specs are there to inform the user, not to brag about. Of course in the end, it's up to the viewer to decide whether the added cost is worth it or not. thats why I ask, Not to Brag here bro. Cause I really need a demo for 1080P for my own eye. From others customer I have I ask them they told me no different. QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 8 2007, 08:22 AM) ok guys... let ask urself one simple and nice question... Yup. LCD TV ! wat is ur space and distance that you sit from ur console??? with LCD monitor you have to sit near la of course... but if you get a LCD TV that is a difference... LCd monitor is nice for individual gaming... *at least for me la... if you wanna play multi player i would like to get bigger screens like LCD TV... cos really la... like wat Djiin say.. hard to differentiate it by side by side... although you might spots some difference... but is the distance that you play ur console that's the main factor.... you wanna sit near and squeeze at ur com table or console table or... sit nicely on sofa and relax to play with others multiplayer...  I would choose LCD TV... cos can use multi purpose... no need to sit near...cos office life is more than enough... no need 24 hours also sit near to this kinda display device... spoil ur eyes.. QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Dec 8 2007, 12:28 PM) Yes, i can even tell it's at 720p even just at a glance. Last time when i play Lost Planet, the box says 1080p support but when i play thru, i can clearly see it's nothing more than just upscaled from 720p. But when i tried Virtua Tennis 3 in 1080p, the difference is quite obvious. so there is a different, But based on games ? upscales doesn't see much different but a true 1080P games does. Still, if you're planning to use it only to play games on the 360 and not sharing with a PC, i'd still recommend getting an lcdtv instead.  so all depends on games. But how can you know if is a full 1080P. mostly all xbox 360 printed 1080P does support. sigh~ |
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Dec 8 2007, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 02:15 PM) About to hit the "Buy" button on the Dell 27".... guys... but I know this IS what I want compared to the Dell 24", RM 2,299RM2,999.... I negotiate with my dad + mom, they're willing to help me to pay for 12 months... RM100 from me while RM150 from them.... What do you guys think... I am not around on Monday and the RM1,100 less offer ends Monday !!! you're paying Rm700 more for a mere 3" compared to the Benq g2400w 24" + HDMI, Rm1759 you're paying RM1240 more for a mere 3" Now consider these: I just ripped them from the Senq website just for you   For RM300/RM200 LESS, you get 5 inches more For the SAME PRICE, you get 5 inches more AND a HDMI DVD player Please think about it hard. Really hard. If you were like me, when years ago the only option I had was a RM2900 Dell 2407 (Cuz LCD TVs were still expensive then), then I would understand if you opted for the 2707. But you have many more options now in terms of 24" lcd monitors that are equally good, if not better, and prices have dropped significantly for LCD Tvs So call your mom+dad, tell them to read my post, and then only decide. This post has been edited by Gurdian: Dec 8 2007, 02:35 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM
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after much discussion with my parents and me and on HDTV, LCD display and "why-dont-you-just-used-your-old-display"... I finally have ordered it.
27" Dell 2707WFP 1920x1200 display. The guys at Gamers Hideout themselves said to me, I can get even a 32" HDTV lesser price than the Dell display. But I stressed them that full HD capable HDTVs are much more expensive than the Dell display. And they agreed. The thing is they said, the Dell display does not have HDMI and its 27". My point is, this is what I want : Full HD at 27" This is what "most of you are recommending me" : Non Full HD HDTVs at 32" or larger [which I do understand is much cheaper compared last time] This is the problem : Full HD HDTVs are "still relatively expensive", they're like what RM3,500 + ?? This is what I think the solution is : Even though 27" vs 32" is like 5 huge freakin inches of difference, I get full HD at a With price in mind (and quality fortunately in my case), the Dell fits me perfectly. I was told the upcoming 30" Dell 2560x1600 (with HDMI) would cost me around RM4,500 to RM5,000+. That's ridiculous. The fact that I "do have" full HD and its large at 27" AND it fits the bill at RM2,999, it would be my pick. Keep those feedback coming, I am told my order can still be "put on hold" on Monday. Help.  ps : I have never seen a HDTV, never compared LCD vs. HDTV, but I know 100% how it feels to have 1920x1080 resolution on a LCD PC display. |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM) after much discussion with my parents and me and on HDTV, LCD display and "why-dont-you-just-used-your-old-display"... I finally have ordered it. Er? We Agree ?27" Dell 2707WFP 1920x1200 display. The guys at Gamers Hideout themselves said to me, I can get even a 32" HDTV lesser price than the Dell display. But I stressed them that full HD capable HDTVs are much more expensive than the Dell display. And they agreed. The thing is they said, the Dell display does not have HDMI and its 27". My point is, this is what I want : Full HD at 27" This is what "most of you are recommending me" : Non Full HD HDTVs at 32" or larger [which I do understand is much cheaper compared last time] This is the problem : Full HD HDTVs are "still relatively expensive", they're like what RM3,500 + ?? This is what I think the solution is : Even though 27" vs 32" is like 5 huge freakin inches of difference, I get full HD at a With price in mind (and quality fortunately in my case), the Dell fits me perfectly. I was told the upcoming 30" Dell 2560x1600 (with HDMI) would cost me around RM4,500 to RM5,000+. That's ridiculous. The fact that I "do have" full HD and its large at 27" AND it fits the bill at RM2,999, it would be my pick. Keep those feedback coming, I am told my order can still be "put on hold" on Monday. Help. ps : I have never seen a HDTV, never compared LCD vs. HDTV, but I know 100% how it feels to have 1920x1080 resolution on a LCD PC display. |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:27 PM
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Ok since you've settled with a non HDMI LCD , why would you still opting for the elite . If the budget does constraint , I don't really see a point in it .
IIRC , most games are upscaled only and Halo3 native is at 640p . IMO full HD is a joke at smaller display .  P/s : The Dell LCD if used on PC sure helluva awesome though . This post has been edited by Breaktru: Dec 8 2007, 03:31 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:32 PM
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any LCD TV below 40inch with Full HD... you can hardly see the difference la...R7 was one of the best LCD TVs...you can go up to 720p and that is enough imo.
if you planning to taste the Full HD feature...get a 40 inch above This post has been edited by Syuji: Dec 8 2007, 03:33 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM
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Xbox 360, don't need to PM me about this. We can talk about it here. It's not like you're confessing your feelings to me so don't be shy.
QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM) Coz I'm new and since I did hit the "order button" on the Dell website, you're saying I'm better off buying HDTV (that is not full HD) compared to buying a full HD capable LCD display? To your first question:QUOTE(Gurdian 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM) I'm a Dell 2407 user, and playing games like Halo 3 and COD 4 doesn't look any nicer on a 1920x1200 screen cuz they're all not 1080p or 720p. They're simply upscaled. IMO, after using the 2407 for years, and looking at others and their 32" LCD TVs, you'd have a more fulfilling experience with a larger more vivid screen. But you've already hit the ORDER button due to you impatience and fanboy-ism. So there's nothing much to talk bout anymore Oh not to worry, my order can be "put on hold" on Monday. Furthermore processing will take longer coz' Tuesday not everyone is working. Anyways, what if in the future, there are 1080p (full HD) capable games? Another question, what is the price range of a full HD 1080p HDTV ? Did you even read my previous posts? Click on the links and read. There are already 1080p games. But they're only a small handful and most of the major titles are still doing their upscaling trick. Most native 1080p games now are usually games that don't tax the CPU/GPU of the 360 much, so developers can afford to up the reso to 1920x1080. Developers like Bungie give some dingdong excuse that they want gamers to have a more 'realistic blabla yadayada experience' so they have to lower to 640p and give more bling effects. But the brutal truth is Halo 3 would be crawling on your screen if they gave it native 1080p. Your only chance of the next uber game with fancy effects, crazy lighting and graphical coolness to have native 1080p is when developers/programmers suddenly learned how to code better or that the Xbox 360 got a CPU/GPU upgrade. It's been TWO YEARS since the 360 release. I don't see any leaps and bounds apart from their same old upscaling trick. So stop counting pixels and be a goddamn gamer and start playing. To your second question: I assume you're trying to be sarcastic and trying to show me that 1080p HDTVs are Rm5k++ and that you're getting a God-given deal with your precious Dell 2707 at a mere 2999. Again, read - my - posts I showed you 2 options: one if you're still adamant about 1920x1200, and one if you're willing to go for more screen space. The 2407 is a damn fine monitor, and thus paying RM700 for another 3 inches is just not worth it. and when you compare the equally good BenQ 24" which you save a whopping RM1240, it's just borderline stupid. Pity your parents little boy. Help them save some money for themselves and give up the damn 3 inches. This post has been edited by Gurdian: Dec 8 2007, 03:53 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Dec 8 2007, 03:27 PM) Ok since you've settled with a non HDMI LCD , why would you still opting for the elite . If the budget does constraint , I don't really see a point in it . I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them??IIRC , most games are upscaled only and Halo3 native is at 640p . IMO full HD is a joke at smaller display . P/s : The Dell LCD if used on PC sure helluva awesome though . The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes... Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ? |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM) I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them?? Back to the answer..The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes... Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ? gamer's hideout agree ? on ? back to the DVI compare HDMI 19 inch ? nope. looks the same. |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:52 PM
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DVI is essentially HDMI without sound.
I would go for a 32" LCD TV if I had RM3k instead of a measly 27" monitor. |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Gurdian @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM) Xbox 360, don't need to PM me about this. We can talk about it here. It's not like you're confessing your feelings to me so don't be shy. Whoa... totally didn't expect that but thanks anyway. Fanboy-ism? Of what??! I am so freakin new here, there nothing to be a fan of... The only reason I ordered so fast is because the offer ends Monday. Have some pity on me, I am new here... sweat.gif Oh not to worry, my order can be "put on hold" on Monday. Furthermore processing will take longer coz' Tuesday not everyone is working. Anyways, what if in the future, there are 1080p (full HD) capable games? Another question, what is the price range of a full HD 1080p HDTV ? To your first question: Did you even read my previous posts? Click on the links and read. There are already 1080p games. But they're only a small handful and most of the major titles are still doing their upscaling trick. Most native 1080p games now are usually games that don't tax the CPU/GPU of the 360 much, so developers can afford to up the reso to 1920x1080. Developers like Bungie give some dingdong excuse that they want gamers to have a more 'realistic blabla yadayada experience' so they have to lower to 640p and give more bling effects. But the brutal truth is Halo 3 would be crawling on your screen if they gave it native 1080p. Your only chance of the next uber game with fancy effects, crazy lighting and graphical coolness to have native 1080p is when developers/programmers suddenly learned how to code better or that the Xbox 360 got a CPU/GPU upgrade. So stop counting pixels and be a goddamn gamer and start playing. To your second question: I assume you're trying to be sarcastic and trying to show me that 1080p HDTVs are Rm5k++ and that you're getting a God-given deal with your precious Dell 2707 at a mere 2999. Again, read - my - posts I showed you 2 options: one if you're still adamant about 1920x1200, and one if you're willing to go for more screen space. The 2407 is a damn fine monitor, and thus paying RM700 for another 3 inches is just not worth it. and when you compare the equally good BenQ 24" which you save a whopping RM1240, it's just borderline stupid. Pity your parents little boy. Help them save some money for themselves and give up the damn 3 inches. Alright, let's put the sarcasm and 1080p rants of mine AWAY for good. I am really confused, frustrated and worse still, hope my money hadn't gone to waste and that is why I am here. (as for the Dell, like I said, I can put it on HOLD on Monday...) So here's the deal - - - 1. What is the price range of a full HD 1080p TV ? 2. What can I get for less than RM3k on a full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity] 3. What can I get for less than RM3k on a non full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity] 4. What would be the viewing area of answer No.2 or No. 3 if available at that price range ? I ask sincerely.  No offence mate, but I was seating on the edge of my seat when I hit that order button.This post has been edited by Xbox 360: Dec 8 2007, 04:02 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM) I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them?? 120GB to store what ? You ain't got anything to download here (IP restrict and yada yada) + our "lightspeed" Streamyx line . The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes... Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ?  And even the elite somehow will get RROD'ed . Oh , and I'm damn agree with Guardian on how much you can save with the cheaper alternative . In fact , you can save alot in many aspect and the differences aren't big . |
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Dec 8 2007, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:59 PM) Whoa... totally didn't expect that but thanks anyway. 1. 6k - 7kAlright, let's put the sarcasm and 1080p rants of mine AWAY for good. I am really confused, frustrated and worse still, hope my money hadn't gone to waste and that is why I am here. (as for the Dell, like I said, I can put it on HOLD on Monday...) So here's the deal - - - 1. What is the price range of a full HD 1080p TV ? 2. What can I get for less than RM3k on a full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity] 3. What can I get for less than RM3k on a non full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity] 4. What would be the viewing area of answer No.2 or No. 3 if available at that price range ? I ask sincerely. No offence mate, but I was seating on the edge of my seat when I hit that order button.2. No such thing. 3. Short of screaming "GOOGLE IT", stop being a lazy-tard and read my previous posts. 4. No such thing for No.2, and read my previous posts for No. 3 This post has been edited by Gurdian: Dec 8 2007, 04:08 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:59 PM) Whoa... totally didn't expect that but thanks anyway. 1. Don't waste money on small display with Full HD Alright, let's put the sarcasm and 1080p rants of mine AWAY for good. I am really confused, frustrated and worse still, hope my money hadn't gone to waste and that is why I am here. (as for the Dell, like I said, I can put it on HOLD on Monday...) So here's the deal - - - 1. What is the price range of a full HD 1080p TV ? 2. What can I get for less than RM3k on a full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity] 3. What can I get for less than RM3k on a non full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity] 4. What would be the viewing area of answer No.2 or No. 3 if available at that price range ? I ask sincerely. No offence mate, but I was seating on the edge of my seat when I hit that order button.2. Don't waste money on small display with Full HD 3. There's no non full HD 1080p , 1080p is full HD . Other than 1080P , they're not Full HD 4. Again , Don't waste money on small display with Full HD For the fact that Full HD isn't necessary for 20inchers and not many games are natively rendered at 1080P , better forget about full HD . Unless of course , you can fork out the money for big-a$$ display with Full HD . You wish you can do that , but life isn't fair . Unless some miracle happened that your parents fully support you on it , or you won lottery . What am I blabbering about . |
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Dec 8 2007, 04:33 PM
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so who to agree ? and what to agree on ? and why agree ?
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Dec 8 2007, 04:36 PM
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Right on... I'll call Dell on Monday, tell them to halt the order. Even though they have the offer, you guys are damn right on...
from rm2,299 --> RM700 more for a mere 3 inches larger? (24" to 27" Dell) RM1240 more and I can get BenQ 24" with HDMI ? at around RM3k, I am better off buying a HDTV that is far larger than 27 " just flipping the newspapers and I came across a few You guys are right. I will be shopping for LCD TV for my budget range. There are plenty of shops around. Best if I see the TV working in its glory. *Edited : Will be closing thread soon... just give me some hints on buying HDTV... This post has been edited by Xbox 360: Dec 8 2007, 04:37 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 04:43 PM
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For me at least I can see the difference between CRT and LCD monitor is enough for me.
And you don't bother taking into account the response time? Smart. For those who said 8ms response time, your eyes can't see. I can make you see with your own eye  Go play Gears of War split screen. Multiplayer the best. Try do roadie run at the same time. I went to yhanlee there with his 5ms LCD monitor, the 1 who run last, will suffer the frame rate drops which you can see very clearly. ( not sure correct term ) Just say, 1 will feel lagg. Mine 2ms, I tried both roadie run, both run smoothly. So far only Gears of War. QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM) after much discussion with my parents and me and on HDTV, LCD display and "why-dont-you-just-used-your-old-display"... I finally have ordered it. HDTV is either LCD or Plasma tv. There is also CRT type but is rare to find here in Malaysia ( maybe you guys know where ) 27" Dell 2707WFP 1920x1200 display. The guys at Gamers Hideout themselves said to me, I can get even a 32" HDTV lesser price than the Dell display. But I stressed them that full HD capable HDTVs are much more expensive than the Dell display. And they agreed. The thing is they said, the Dell display does not have HDMI and its 27". My point is, this is what I want : Full HD at 27" This is what "most of you are recommending me" : Non Full HD HDTVs at 32" or larger [which I do understand is much cheaper compared last time] This is the problem : Full HD HDTVs are "still relatively expensive", they're like what RM3,500 + ?? This is what I think the solution is : Even though 27" vs 32" is like 5 huge freakin inches of difference, I get full HD at a With price in mind (and quality fortunately in my case), the Dell fits me perfectly. I was told the upcoming 30" Dell 2560x1600 (with HDMI) would cost me around RM4,500 to RM5,000+. That's ridiculous. The fact that I "do have" full HD and its large at 27" AND it fits the bill at RM2,999, it would be my pick. Keep those feedback coming, I am told my order can still be "put on hold" on Monday. Help. ps : I have never seen a HDTV, never compared LCD vs. HDTV, but I know 100% how it feels to have 1920x1080 resolution on a LCD PC display. You want a full HD? Let me ask you this What is your distance between you and your screen? If you are too near to your big screen LCD, you can see the pixel of the display. For a game you want a full HD? LOL. If you want a pure full HD, get a 40" + LCD tv with full hd and your console support HDMI. You put that in and see from far. But still the HD still depends on the game. Game crappy, your display crappy. QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM) I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them?? Go and do some research.The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes... Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ? DVI A-D VS HDMI. There is DVI-A,B, C and D ( correct me if I'm wrong ) DVI-a is same as your VGA cable. Therefore DVI-D is better then VGA cable but lose to HDMI. HDMI is the best because all the input > output are uncompressed thats why they produce a fine picture. Like we all said, if you want gaming for LCD monitor, best is go either 22" or 24" for cheapest. And since you have so much money, you might as well get a LCD tv with 32" higher. Whats the point buying 27" monitor which cost close to 3k when you can get better inch and more output to it? And the HD graphic still depends on the game itself. |
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Dec 8 2007, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 04:36 PM) Right on... I'll call Dell on Monday, tell them to halt the order. Even though they have the offer, you guys are damn right on... I think you got it wrong , or just typed them out wrongly . Let me help to sort it out preciselyfrom rm2,299 --> RM700 more for a mere 3 inches larger? (24" to 27" Dell) RM1240 more and I can get BenQ 24" with HDMI ? at around RM3k, I am better off buying a HDTV that is far larger than 27 " just flipping the newspapers and I came across a few You guys are right. I will be shopping for LCD TV for my budget range. There are plenty of shops around. Best if I see the TV working in its glory. *Edited : Will be closing thread soon... just give me some hints on buying HDTV... from rm2,299 --> RM700 LESS for a mere 3 inches Reduction? (27" to 24" Dell) RM1240 LESS and you can get BenQ 24" with HDMI ? RM1759 , the cost of the BenQ 24" , precisely . And Djinn is still wondering on the agree thingy lol |
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