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post Jun 25 2009, 02:30 PM

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This movie has very extreme viewer opinions on both ends. Some say really bad and somke say awesome.

Is it because higher expectations? Losing T1 novelty (seeingTransformers transforming) etc.
How can and Orci+Kurtzman...+Kruger be so bad?

Then i saw this in wiki
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Screenwriting was interrupted by the 2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike, but to avoid production delays the writers spent two weeks writing a treatment, which they handed in the night before the strike began,[12] and Bay expanded the outline into a sixty-page scriptment,[13] fleshing out the action, adding more jokes,[12] as well as selecting the majority of new characters.[14]


I speculating that all the bad jokes are from his idea... you Bayjokes!
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post Jun 25 2009, 02:33 PM

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look i dont have Bay.

Bay's old movie i love it.

Transformers 1 bravo bay you made transformers movie. Love it watched it plenty of times amazed with it.

Transformers 2, what the ???? this is not transformers HUMAN FOUGHT THE WAR and AUTOBOTS are BACKGROUNDS AND NO EFFORT AT ALL IN DESIGNS

because 1 was so good i was expecting the same level as one and more.

but this is oh noooo

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post Jun 25 2009, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(tzarain @ Jun 25 2009, 02:30 PM)
This movie has very extreme viewer opinions on both ends. Some say really bad and somke say awesome.

Is it because higher expectations? Losing T1 novelty (seeingTransformers transforming) etc.
How can and Orci+Kurtzman...+Kruger be so bad?

Then i saw this in wiki
I speculating that all the bad jokes are from his idea... you Bayjokes!
Yeah, I think that is the reason also. vmad.gif

From intelligent Transformer movie...we get 12 year old kids mindset to write the scripts. Giant Robot with Ding Dongs....yeah. Do Hasbro sell that Devastator sets???? Is the 'Ding Dong' there on the toy??? tongue.gif
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post Jun 25 2009, 02:38 PM

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Lol... this is what I would say

For those screaming Transformers 2 was freakin awesome and giving it 10/10 and "Best Movie of the Year" - - -

Transformers 2 = Twilight

Transformers 2 for the guys.

Twilight for the girls.

So I don't blame those screaming at how freakin awesome T2 was. brows.gif


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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jun 25 2009, 02:33 PM)
look i dont have Bay.

Bay's old movie i love it.

Transformers 1 bravo bay you made transformers movie. Love it watched it plenty of times amazed with it.

Transformers 2, what the ???? this is not transformers HUMAN FOUGHT THE WAR and AUTOBOTS are BACKGROUNDS AND NO EFFORT AT ALL IN DESIGNS

because 1 was so good i was expecting the same level as one and more.

but this is oh noooo
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Your neighbours come your house and see your Home Theater system...and you want to impress them the sound systems or clarity of the picture on your new LCD/OLED screens....you play them Transformer 2...and show them Megan Fox running in slow, or how crystal clear the ball sacked hair of Devastator......both you & your neighbour say out loud..."COOOOL" drool.gif
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jun 25 2009, 02:38 PM)
Your neighbours come your house and see your Home Theater system...and you want to impress them the sound systems or clarity of the picture on your new LCD/OLED screens....you play them Transformer 2...and show them Megan Fox running in slow, or how crystal clear the ball sacked hair of Devastator......both you & your neighbour say out loud..."COOOOL"  drool.gif
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ooooo yeahhh that would be impressive adding some zoom in hahaha
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post Jun 25 2009, 02:42 PM

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And ifi don't like both movies, jialat





QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 25 2009, 02:38 PM)
Lol... this is what I would say

For those screaming Transformers 2 was freakin awesome and giving it 10/10 and "Best Movie of the Year"  - - -

Transformers 2 = Twilight

Transformers 2 for the guys.

Twilight for the girls.

So I don't blame those screaming at how freakin awesome T2 was.  brows.gif
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post Jun 25 2009, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jun 25 2009, 02:33 PM)
look i dont have Bay.

Bay's old movie i love it.

Transformers 1 bravo bay you made transformers movie. Love it watched it plenty of times amazed with it.

Transformers 2, what the ???? this is not transformers HUMAN FOUGHT THE WAR and AUTOBOTS are BACKGROUNDS AND NO EFFORT AT ALL IN DESIGNS

because 1 was so good i was expecting the same level as one and more.

but this is oh noooo
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Yo how can u say such cruel things "NO EFFORT AT ALL IN DESIGNS"...if the people in ILM heard those words they'll cry man, they work so hard for it....
I think there will be forever a split between Michael Bay supporter and haters...those critics really really can't accept his film and he's already given up on trying to convince them sweat.gif But as long as Bay's movies keep on making monies, he'll be in the directors seat for a very long time icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 25 2009, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(cllee86 @ Jun 25 2009, 02:49 PM)
Yo how can u say such cruel things "NO EFFORT AT ALL IN DESIGNS"...if the people in ILM heard those words they'll cry man, they work so hard for it....
I think there will be forever a split between Michael Bay supporter and haters...those critics really really can't accept his film and he's already given up on trying to convince them sweat.gif  But as long as Bay's movies keep on making monies, he'll be in the directors seat for a very long time icon_rolleyes.gif
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haha sorry for that.

Transformers 1 - total around 12 transformers 12 designs solid.

Transformers 2 - minus part 1 desing. you left with less than 12 designs of new transformers.


so where is the effort?

20++ robots fighting all same face same look.



Not to say convince or not. I always say its a great movie but not a great transformers movie.


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post Jun 25 2009, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 25 2009, 12:41 PM)
My conclusion is that the movie is a horrible experience of unbearable length.

There has also been considerable negative reaction to the characters Mudflap and Skids, who are alleged to embody racist stereotypes. Manohla Dargis of the New York Times said that "the characters indicate that minstrelsy remains as much in fashion in Hollywood as when, well, Jar Jar Binks was set loose by George Lucas."Critic Scott Mendelson said, "To say that these two are the most astonishingly racist caricatures that I've ever seen in a mainstream motion picture would be an understatement."Harry Knowles, founder of Ain't It Cool News, went further, asking his readers "not to support this film" because "you'll be taking [your children] to see a film with the lowest forms of humor, stereotypes and racism around."Director Bay has attempted to defend the film as "good clean fun"  doh.gif  and insisted that "We're just putting more personality in.

The twins are so freakin annoying, just like Jar Jar Binks. And I agree to this.

Losing respect for Bay ? You should.
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Was that you who said you'll be watching this at least twice in the cinema no matter what? Too late for regrets! tongue.gif

QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jun 25 2009, 01:30 PM)
No one is expecting a movie with great story and acting. TF: ROTF fails because it simply isn't fun at all. Its a poorly executed movie made to milk cash from the stupid masses. It absolutely fails as entertainment on any level. This is Batman & Robin standard shit we are dealing with here guys, with giant robots. Thats it, Batman and Robin with giant robots.
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There are badly-written but harmless scripts, and there are badly-written and annoying scripts.

The more I think of this movie, the more I wonder how the hell I managed to squeeze some kind of enjoyment out of it. Maybe going in with real low expectations really works. I'm sure the second viewing will completely fall flat, so I'm not even gonna bother with another one.

QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 25 2009, 02:38 PM)
Lol... this is what I would say

For those screaming Transformers 2 was freakin awesome and giving it 10/10 and "Best Movie of the Year"  - - -

Transformers 2 = Twilight

Transformers 2 for the guys.

Twilight for the girls.

So I don't blame those screaming at how freakin awesome T2 was.  brows.gif
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and you would be wrong, coz most of the girls really think this movie is awesome as well.

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post Jun 25 2009, 03:01 PM

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FORGET IT...I WILL WATCH AGAIN TF 2 FOR FEW TIMES...COZ IT'S GREAT MOVIE.....PM ME IF U GUYS WANT THE PREQUEL NOVEL...COZ I KNOW THE ANSWER FOR TF2...


Added on June 25, 2009, 3:04 pm I WATCHED THE MOVIE FROM 8.10PM TIL 10PM..110 MINS RUNNING TIME...BUT MY FRENS....WATCH AT THE CURVE RUNNING TIME IS 150 MINUTES?IS THERE ANY CENCORSHIP AT GSC BUT NOT TO CATHAY???

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post Jun 25 2009, 03:16 PM

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The answer to T2 : ROTF !? Pray tell
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post Jun 25 2009, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 25 2009, 02:38 PM)
Lol... this is what I would say

For those screaming Transformers 2 was freakin awesome and giving it 10/10 and "Best Movie of the Year"  - - -

Transformers 2 = Twilight

Transformers 2 for the guys.

Twilight for the girls.

So I don't blame those screaming at how freakin awesome T2 was.  brows.gif
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agreed. I fell asleep while watching twilight.
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post Jun 25 2009, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jun 24 2009, 08:29 PM)
The movie is full of ridiculous scenes, but i want to ask this: why the hell did john turturro's character feel the need to climb the pyramid? What the hell can he achieve by climbing up? other than a) being killed by devastator b) being killed by rolling rocks c) to get a better look at the balls.

I laffed with my friends in that scene.
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he climb up to get proper coordinates to shoot?
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post Jun 25 2009, 03:35 PM

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Transformer 2 is ART..... hmm.gif

http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie


Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie
By Charlie Jane Anders, 9:00 AM on Wed Jun 24 2009, 45,001 views (Edit post, Set to draft, Slurp)

Critical consensus on Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen is overwhelmingly negative. But the critics are wrong. Michael Bay used a squillion dollars and a hundred supercomputers' worth of CG for a brilliant art movie about the illusory nature of plot.

Oh, and I would warn you that there'll be spoilers in this review — except that, really, since I still have no idea what actually happened in this movie, I'm not sure how much I can spoil it.

Since the days of Un Chien Andalou and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, filmmakers have reached beyond meaning. But with this summer's biggest, loudest movie, Michael Bay takes us all the way inside Caligari's cabinet. And once you enter, you can never emerge again. I saw this movie two days ago, and I'm still living inside it. Things are exploding wherever I look, household appliances are trying to kill me, and bizarre racial stereotypes are shouting at me.

Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense. It's an assault on the senses, a barrage of crazy imagery. Imagine that you went back in time to the late 1960s and found Terry Gilliam, fresh from doing his weird low-fi collage/animations for Monty Python. You proceeded to inject Gilliam with so many steroids his penis shrank to the size of a hair follicle, and you smushed a dozen tabs of LSD under his tongue. And then you gave him the GDP of a few sub-Saharan countries. Gilliam might have made a movie not unlike this one.

And the true genius of Transformers: ROTF is that Bay has put all of this excess of imagery and random ideas at the service of the most pandering movie genre there is: the summer movie. ROTF is like twenty summer movies, with unrelated storylines, smushed together into one crazy whole. You try in vain to understand how the pieces fit, you stare into the cracks between the narrative strands, until the cracks become chasms and the chasms become an abyss into which you stare until it looks deep into your own soul, and then you go insane. You. Do. Not. Leave. The Cabinet.

Michael Bay understands that summer movies are about two things: male anxiety, and pure id. That's why he casts Shia LaBoeuf, that supreme avatar of pure male inadequacy, in the lead role. LaBoeuf projects a pathetic, wall-eyed dorkhood, when he's not babbling like a tumor removed from Woody Allen's prostate that somehow achieved sentience. I imagine the DVD of ROTF will include a whole disk of outtakes where they had to stop filming because LaBoeuf was drooling on camera. As it is, the film includes several extreme closeups of LaBoeuf's dazed stare.

Where was I? Oh yes. So LaBoeuf, who's actually a fine actor, is the stand-in for the male viewers' greatest fears about themselves. No matter how great a loser they might be, they can't be as losery a loser as Sam Witwicky. And yet, Sam has awesome giant robots stomping around telling him he's the most important awesome person ever. And he has the hottest girlfriend in the universe, Megan Fox, for whom banality is a huge aphrodisiac. The more pathetic Sam gets, the more Fox's lips pout and her nipples point, like little Irish setters.

To make matters more awesome for the insecure males in the audience, Sam actually tosses aside his giant robot fanclub and his walking-pinup girlfriend, so he can have a normal life. Of course, this only leads to other robots and hawt chicks (who turn out to be robots too) throwing themselves at him and telling him how important he is. In the end, everybody learns to appreciate Sam just a bit more than they already did, and a booming voice tells him he's earned the "matrix of leadership" through his courage and stuff.

And then there's the "id" part, which is the part where stuff blows up real good, and huge machines smash each other up. And every single performance is so ridiculous that it looks down on "over the top" as if from a great height. It's the part of your brain that thinks it would be awesome to see robots with giant dangling testicles, or hot chicks turning into robot tentacle monsters, or "ghetto" robots that talk in inept hip-hop slang and smash each other playfully, or funny Jewish men who talk about their "schmear" and randomly strip to their G-strings. Is that going too far? Then let's go 100 times farther than that and see what happens!

Transformers: ROTF is so long, you'll need to wear adult diapers to it. But the movie's pure celebration of the primal urge, and unfiltered living, will make you rejoice in your adult diapers. You'll relieve yourself in your seat with a savage joy, your barbaric yawp blending in with the crowd's screams of excitement.

And yet — and here's the part where I really think ROTF approaches "art movie" status — the movie's id overload reaches such crazy levels that the fabric of reality itself starts to break down. Michael Bay has boasted about how every single shot in the movie has so much stuff going on in it, it would take your PC since the dawn of time to render one frame. After a few hours of this assault, you feel the chair melt and the floor of the movie theater becomes an angry mirror into your soul. Nothing is solid, nothing is real, everything Transforms.

The closest thing I can think of to this movie is the Wachowskis' Speed Racer, which had a similar kind of CG image overload, although it was only five hours long as opposed to ROTF's nine.

And around hour six of ROTF, something curious happens: the two components — male enhancement and pure id — start to clash, badly. Usually, in a summer movie, the two aspects go together like tits and ass: Jason Statham plays someone who faces the same insecurities as regular dudes, but he overcomes them, and in the process he blows up everything in the world. But creating that kind of fusion requires enslaving the id to the male enhancement, and that in turn means only going way over the top instead of crazy, stratospheric over the top. Michael Bay is not willing to settle for going way over the top, like other directors.

So you have a movie that tries to reassure men that they can actually be masters of their reality — but then turns around and says that actually, reality is not real. There's no such thing as the "real world," and the only thing that's left for men to dominate is a nebulous domain of blurred shapes, which occasionally blurt nonsensical swear-words and slang from ethnic groups that have never existed. If you're drowning in an Olympic swimming pool full of hot chewing gum fondue, do you still care if Megan Fox likes you?

So yes, ROTF approaches the sublime, and then just keeps rocketing. Next stop: total anarchy. In a sense, it's the first war movie ever to convey a real sense of the fog of war, the confusion that comes with battle. Somewhere around hour nine, you will understand why friendly fire happens in wartime.

So I've gotten almost all the way through this review, and I still haven't summarized the movie's plot. Here goes. It's a couple years after the first movie, and Sam is going off to college, leaving his transforming car and his hot girlfriend, whom he still hasn't told he loves her. And meanwhile, the soldiers from the first movie are running around with a bunch of late-model GM cars and trucks, which turn into robots and fight other robots sometimes. Sam sees weird symbols which make no sense (and they still make no sense at the end of the movie) and they turn out to be the key to the location of a thing that can control another thing, that will enable the bad guys to destroy the sun. Sam has to embrace the heroic destiny he's rejected, so he can save us all from solarcide.

But that bare plot summary doesn't include the twenty or thirty other storylines that could also claim to be the movie's plot. There's the whole thing where someone from Washington D.C. wonders why the U.S. military is running around the globe with a bunch of late-model GM cars from outer space, and tries to put the kibosh on the military-Autobot complex. There's the teenager who's got a conspiracy website, that competes with another conpsiracy website which turns out to be the work of a secret agent who's decided that the best way to keep things secret is to put them on a website. (It works. I post secret stuff on io9 all the time.) Various robots die and then come back to life, and there's a whole strand about whether Decepticons (the bad ones) can become Autobots (the good ones). And there's the Fallen, who's sort of the movie's villain even though he barely shows up. And people from 17,000 BC who had weird teeth and fought robots. And the ancient Egyptians did stuff. And Sam's parents go to France except that they meet a robot and then they're in Egypt.

Really, I could go on and on. This movie starts out with a coherent storyline, for the first half hour or so, and then it just starts to spin faster and faster until the centrifuge of random events slams you into the walls. It doesn't help that there are 500 robots in the movie and they all look kind of the same.

Oh, but that's the other thing about ROTF. It's actually quite funny, a lot of the time. Some of the jokes fall flat, like the "twin" robots with the ghetto speak, and a lot of the stuff with John Turturro. But the movie's relentless silliness is mostly pretty hilarious, in a Saturday morning cartoon kind of way, and almost nothing in the movie seems intended to be taken seriously.

So, to sum up: Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen is one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinema, if not the greatest. You could easily argue that cinema, as an artform, has all been leading up to this. It will destabilize your limbic system, probably forever, and make you doubt the solidity of your surroundings. Generations of auteurs have struggled, in vain, to create a cinematic experience as overwhelming, and as liberating, as ROTF.

Women as well as men, everyone watching this film will feel the dissolution of all their certainties, all their illusory grasp on the world... but after you fall into a brazen despair that the walls of reality have become toxic ice cream of a million flavors, you will gasp with a greater realization: that once the world is reduced, forever, to a kaleidoscope of whirling shapes, you are totally free. Nothing matters, effect precedes cause, fish spawn in mid-air, and you can do whatever you want. Let yourself go in your adult diaper, Michael Bay invites you. Feel the music of total excess stir inside your deepest core. It is your Allspark, your cube. And you are a Transformer.
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The fighting scenes are like messed up IMHO..Very fast and all..But the slowmo deaths are okay..
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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 25 2009, 03:27 PM)
he climb up to get proper coordinates to shoot?
A. Not on his watch, the Decepticons will destroy Earth!!! He is Super Agent 7!!! Blatant Heroism!

B. He cannot see what the hell that huge ass 1000 foot Devastator is doing to the pyramid top and need a closer look.

C. Michael Bay wants to project a sense of scale with John Turturoo beside Devastator, the aim is to see how HUGE Devastator BALL's IS can be done in CGI mastery of ILM.

D. Measure the longitude & latitude of the coordinate to fire the "secret" weapon?

E: Random plot twist...you don't know but just enjoy the ride! Who CARES man?

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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 25 2009, 03:27 PM)
he climb up to get proper coordinates to shoot?
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i think so too,the jordanians might have been using satellite radio like it has been said by a forrumer here before,and the reason why soundwave wouldnt have tapped the intel is because the signal moves up to the Jordanian satellite and straightaway to the US destroyer. Remember Starscream killed all communication devices with EMP,and the Jordanians were the only eyes for Pentagon thats before they sent the predators UAV.

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 25 2009, 03:51 PM)
i think so too,the jordanians might have been using satellite radio like it has been said by a forrumer here before,and the reason why soundwave wouldnt have tapped the intel is because the signal moves up to the Jordanian satellite and straightaway to the US destroyer. Remember Starscream killed all communication devices with EMP,and the Jordanians were the only eyes for Pentagon thats before they sent the predators UAV.
For the LOUSY JORDANIAN army that can only afford to sent in 2 helicopter for the rescue, do you honestly think they have such a sophisticated system call a Satellite?? shakehead.gif
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Sorry, never read any of the Transformer books....When i watch TF2, seems like Optimus Prime and the Autobot gang is a very vicious machine, kills all Decepticon...never give chance one...shot to the head....and he is a member of NEST....I think its better to capture the Decepticon rather than hunt them down and kill them (unless necessary)...Autobots fair no better than Decepticons in killing.? Kill or be kill world...if they are the good guys, they could think of a better way (like using a huge version of a stunner etc).

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