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wiraone
post Jun 1 2010, 11:56 AM

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Errm.. as a CERTIFIED ABAPer, you should be able to go through .. now, let me think .. if a certified person complaining that he/she couldn't do the job .. I guess the certification is meaning less .. wonder why some companies prefer to look for a certified consultant..
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QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 11:56 AM)
Errm.. as a CERTIFIED ABAPer, you should be able to go through .. now, let me think .. if a certified person complaining that he/she couldn't do the job .. I guess the certification is meaning less .. wonder why some companies prefer to look for a certified consultant..
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you are right... not giving any excuses but the gap between being certified and now is exactly one year... within this year, i've forgot everything bout ABAP Programming... hehe... so now tried to brush up everything but have no idea what's going on...

certification is about theory whereby experience is about hands-on and be able to apply into the real job... me? none other than fresh ABAPer... experience gain = 0... where could i gain such an experience is every company hired an experience candidate?
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 11:39 AM)
i wish to but there's no one i can ask for help if i face a problem in coding as no one know bout programming in here... is NO ONE... not even a single person... how do i improve my skill since there's no one teach or guide... i understand being an initiative person could learn a lot but the problem is i did try to do research through internet as well as calling up my friends who are ABAPer as well but still ended up nothing... you should know, the way to learn programming is to have at least one or two partner sitting side by side doing the hands on together in order to discuss and understand well right? but how could i do this since no one here know bout programming?
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umm... welll..maybe i share my story with u la.
i started fresh as certified abaper too, went into this bw team. i'm the only abaper tat time.. then nobody to teach me abap, so i started joining SDN, ERPgenie, sapfans forum and i brought all the TAW10/TAW12 books to office and read and try-error...and finally i am able to create my own customer exits and function modules. i didn't ask other team or anyone coz i a bit pride problem (they always say "You Certified Abaper WOHHHHHHH") so i rather go the hard way than to ask anyone.

QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 11:56 AM)
Errm.. as a CERTIFIED ABAPer, you should be able to go through .. now, let me think .. if a certified person complaining that he/she couldn't do the job .. I guess the certification is meaning less .. wonder why some companies prefer to look for a certified consultant..
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:32 PM

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Hahah.. sifu? me? nolah .. not certified somemore .. can't call sifu smile.gif Anyway, still remember when I was kick into a project with no experience in ABAP whatsoever, the only thing we had there in the project floor was massive ABAP manual (and yes, they're all in German).. Still remember how I brought down the whole development system .. everything was trial and error method .. the only training that I went to was a short course on ABAP/4 by AC (and they knew nutting too!! smile.gif .. Anyway, as cheezy said, there are lot of forums/web boards in the net that you could join in. That is the only way I can survive till now .. I was quite active in sapfans but not now.. there are many others who could help there .. but ... before you ask question there, please and please do use the search feature first.
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(castelloz @ Jun 1 2010, 12:32 PM)
Alamak kantoi pulak! Thee hee.. tongue.gif
Yeah, some of the tables has entries up to 3 million records and that is in development box, i dunno in Production.
I just abaper ler, and I dunno BW, so this is requested by the users n bw guys, I already asked them just use
full upload la habis cerita, but they still want delta. I want to shoot back also Im still junior abaper n doing
contract somemore,tak berani later kena tendang anytime.. Thanks anyways.. smile.gif
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OHH... i tot u doing BW liao. Senang. Is functional in the picture or not? normally in this case can taichi to the functionals. U tell the BW guys sorry cannot do coz table tarak timestamp to monitor changes. ask them to tok to functional to make customize table to maintain aedat then update the table when user make changes via the tcode. after tat u can do a join with those tables u mentioned + the new cusztomied table.

QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 12:32 PM)
Anyway, as cheezy said, there are lot of forums/web boards in the net that you could join in. That is the only way I can survive till now .. I was quite active in sapfans but not now.. there are many others who could help there .. but ... before you ask question there, please and please do use the search feature first.
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i no longer active in those sites too. oni lepak in ittoolbox and SDN. i love SDN coz there's a lot points-hunger SAPians there. 1 minute after i post my Qs, i get berlambak replies liao. apparently some consulting firm will ask ur SDN ID, coz they wanna see how active are u in the community.

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post Jun 1 2010, 12:48 PM

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what do you guys think about being an ABAPer?
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 12:48 PM)
what do you guys think about being an ABAPer?
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great! Nothing is impossible with ABAP.
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 1 2010, 12:42 PM)
OHH... i tot u doing BW liao. Senang. Is functional in the picture or not? normally in this case can taichi to the functionals. U tell the BW guys sorry cannot do coz table tarak timestamp to monitor changes. ask them to tok to functional to make customize table to maintain aedat then update the table when user make changes via the tcode. after tat u can do a join with those tables u mentioned + the new cusztomied table.
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No la, im not doing bw, im doing abap r3 onli, but sometimes the bw guys ask me to do abap for bw also.. but i know nothing bout BW.
Yeah d problem with this end user company is, they dun want to have a lot of customize objects to be created. They want us to fully use sap standard stuffs only.
Otherwise it takes a lot of time n effor to get the approval..


Added on June 1, 2010, 12:57 pm
QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 12:48 PM)
what do you guys think about being an ABAPer?
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Bro, u just work for 3 months bro, nothing much u can learn n do. Wait la
for 1 year or 2, when u get ur hands on stuff like webdynpro, some part of bw, portal, idoc, interactive online adobe form, xi, then only u realize abap is soooo funnn! Ahaks! brows.gif

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post Jun 1 2010, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(castelloz @ Jun 1 2010, 12:53 PM)

Bro, u just work for 3 months bro, nothing much u can learn n do. Wait la
for 1 year or 2, when u get ur hands on stuff like webdynpro, some part of bw, portal, idoc, interactive online adobe form, xi, then only u realize abap is soooo funnn! Ahaks!  brows.gif
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got so fun ma? hahaha...

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post Jun 1 2010, 01:37 PM

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Just bought two books on CRM IC & Web and it cost me almost RM500 .. guess w/o going for training, books and helps found on the net are really useful for me to survive in SAP world .. nobody are doing legacy ABAP anymore ..
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QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 01:37 PM)
Just bought two books on CRM IC & Web and it cost me almost RM500 .. guess w/o going for training, books and helps found on the net are really useful for me to survive in SAP world .. nobody are doing legacy ABAP anymore ..
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yeah... it's because you are familiar with SAP dy...

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post Jun 1 2010, 04:00 PM

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Can't say much if you've this attitude .. good luck ..
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post Jun 1 2010, 04:16 PM

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same to ya bro... no offense ya... just kidding only... hehe...
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post Jun 1 2010, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 04:00 PM)
Can't say much if you've this attitude .. good luck ..
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QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 04:16 PM)
same to ya bro... no offense ya... just kidding only... hehe...
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wow.. u sudah offended the abap sifu liao. how u gonna cari makan in this field anymore?
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post Jun 2 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 1 2010, 07:44 PM)
wow.. u sudah offended the abap sifu liao. how u gonna cari makan in this field anymore?
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a lot of Abapers huh? Can i post a question here regarding enhancement?
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post Jun 2 2010, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(achangle @ Jun 2 2010, 03:29 PM)
a lot of Abapers huh? Can i post a question here regarding enhancement?
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sure. wira sifu can help u.
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post Jun 2 2010, 07:39 PM

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haha.. wrong forum, ask in sapfans and I'll answer, this is jobs & careers smile.gif
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post Jun 3 2010, 01:04 AM

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im diggin this thread..

can some one shed me some light..

if i want to further my studies and set SAP as my aim..

i have finished my SPM and would like to know more about SAP

which route i should take?

i read a few pages of SAP articles.. and did some googling..

seems like this thing is BIG..

there's technical and functional..

the two that interest me are

SAP Business Intelligence

and SAP ABAP.

oh.. if i may.. i'd like to direct this to the legend here.. chezz was it? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(RaitoTenth @ Jun 3 2010, 12:04 AM)
im diggin this thread..

can some one shed me some light..

if i want to further my studies and set SAP as my aim..

i have finished my SPM and would like to know more about SAP

which route i should take?

i read a few pages of SAP articles.. and did some googling..

seems like this thing is BIG..

there's technical and functional..

the two that interest me are

SAP Business Intelligence

and SAP ABAP.

oh.. if i may.. i'd like to direct this to the legend here.. chezz was it? tongue.gif
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Preferably, take IT related course in ur uni then attend SAP courses or apply for SAP position for fresh grad. The logic behind is to familiarize urself with IT terms and concepts. However, it is possible for people with non-It background to venture into the field...

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