if the price is around e6750 price then it will be selling like hot cake? maybe
the gap between intel amd become near a little bit only

Phenomenal failure is more like it.
Compare Phenom to a Penryn and the lead becomes even bigger.
Surprisingly a bug was discovered so late into production that they couldn't produce a stable 2.4 GHz model (some TLB thingy).

I'm waiting for X.E.D. to give his take...

kinda disappointed with the review result... miss the moment when amd athlon xp beat p4

waiting AMD back to throne

aiyo.. we dun wan price cheap then intel then slow then intel.. wad we wan is price exp abit then pawn intel haha

Problem here is Phenom is gonna carry AMD through next year. That means they are competing against Penryn, not current quads.

AMD should price this current range of chips much lower than it is now, if they wants to remain somewhat competitive. Penryn will be 45nm, cheaper fab and faster. I mean, they can't afford to wait around till intel cuts their price for them to start doing something about their own (AMD) price.

Of course there's a limit to how low the price can be before they goes into deficit. But I believe they can do better with the price.

maybe they release it at a lower clock juz so tat OC'ers can OC kaw kaw for tat price...? i don see any point of launching something so desperately tat can barely match conroe and going against Penryn... it's like seeing a kancil vs Skyline GTR 34 on a drag race... i can't even think about the gap...

The demo systems revealed that the phenom hardly overclock. It fails in that area too.

anyone check the sisandra memory benchmark of these phenom babes? it seems that it is slower than current K8. this is one of the main reason why phenom isnt phenomenal. The L3 cache is the culprit here, the latency is just so high that overall it might cancel out the advantage of having integrated memory controller.


"Phenom is much like the solemn relative, visiting during a time of great sorrow within the family" . quote from anandtech.

which translate into...less competitive CPU market for the next 3 years or more. . unless AMD can do something to remedy the slow memory bandwidth. But that was impossible unless a architecture update is being planned.

This post has been edited by sparrowed: Nov 20 2007, 12:37 AM

Still, the B2 revision need to be revised asap. For now, ppl using C2Q have no reason to "upgrade".

come on amd.. intel already gave 1600fsb proc to be tested..
i'm in the middle..

But my heart still with AMD..

hahaha! although phenom cannot win penryn but 4 mainstream users, this is definitely the best bang 4 the buck processor now.

Not true
Price too high

but the pricing 4 phenom between c2d e6750 and c2q q6600 wasnt that bad what

Truly a BIG BIG dissapointment from AMD!!!
They've been boasting their performance for like a year now.. What 40% better than Intel!! hahaha
I was thinking it could b better a little than the current Intel products on market.. gosh was I WRONG.
All empty gas from the AMD pretenders
Penryn is gonna smoke this Phenom(menon failure!)

oh. it is still ok for me as i dont need a proc that too high end.
but i really interested to know the OC ability.

after reading the benchmark tests and results, AMD poses a good fight, but ain't a winner over Intel yet, but i'm impressed with the performance they have produced with such tight budget.

I'll just wait for K10 Athlon X2 I guess.

no comparison with intel cpu?
not yet able to beat intel's quad

or atleast can bring down the intel processor price(s)

This post has been edited by gengstapo: Nov 20 2007, 12:34 PM