i hope AMD can beat Intel again in 2009.

when AMD Fusion vs Intel Nehalem proc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_%28CPU_architecture%29

No, it means that no other processor maker other then intel can produce x86 if there is no AMD

wonder why ibm does not market their own x86 procs....they will totally pawn!

Amd phenom price has been release

Phenom 9600 (2.3GHz, 95W, 2MB total dedicated L2 cache, 2MB L3 cache, 3600MHz HyperTransport(tm) bus, socket AM2+) 

Price $283
Phenom 9500 (2.2GHz, 95W, 2MB total dedicated L2 cache, 2MB L3 cache, 3600MHz HyperTransport(tm) bus, socket AM2+)

Price $251

Phenom's retail packaging.



More pictures here:

http://infomars.fr/forum/index.php?showtopic=1052

5-10% hit. Of course the sources are scarce, i didn't read that on the internets.

K6(-2/3) was quite a competitor on non-performance/brand-name boxes.

But that's essentially... meh. 

I can't disagree with you on that but one has to consider the fact what with Intel forging ahead with larger cache at L2 instead of going L3, and at the same time developing tech which negates or reduces the latency associated with large cache, it's hard not to be imginative with what may possibly be achievable once implementation of integration is achieved and if it's inline with what the goals of HTT 2.0 are, we may see greater bandwidth being made available altho by right current microproc designs being churned out by Intel aren't that memory hungry (Correct me if I'm wrong, getting forgetful nowadays). And with that, it's possible a substantial if not leapfrogging evolution of micro-p architecture at consumer market level. As for Northwood, I can't personally agree it's a failure since it did serve it's purpose well eventhough it close to it's design limitation. Prescott and subsequently Cedar Mill should be the one's to be considered the real flops as Intel chose to prolong a design which was fast running into a performance-per-watt wall. IINM, Cedar Mill's heat density scaled to the point that at an equivalent one sqaure meter, it generated enough waste heat equivalent to a small power plant (Thanks to ikanayam for pointing out that fact last time).

As for Bloomfield, from what I heard from the grapevine, that seems to be a stop-gap measure although I can't get nor divulge any further details since it's unsubstantiated and/or it's based on the trust as friends

Was talking on Northwood at Hyperthreading level.
Its HTT implementation was utterly useless.

Nehalem could be designed with H-T in mind, and that's where I'm betting on Intel for that boost AMD can't have in synthetics (after all, synthetics are EVERYTHING in CPUs, no way bypassing them in performance assessments)

Bloomfield could be a stopgap, but that would be counting on 32nm to be implemented quickly and to get Sandy Bay out fast. Which would be rather ideal as these chips are huge.