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TSZhik
post Nov 30 2025, 12:46 AM, updated 19h ago

eeerrrmmmnnn, stupidity has no limit?
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Finally the official launched of perodua QVE on 1st Dec 2025.
Price below 80K for only the car without the battery. smile.gif


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Gross calculation for the cost of the car
80k + rm275 (monthly battery renting fee) x12m x years.
3 years 80k + 9.9k = 89.9k
5 years 80k + 16.5k = 96.5k
9 years 80k + 29.7k = 109.7k

Price is excluding roat tax and insurance.
Rumour say will bundle into the 80k car price.

Further question is , will the cost of renting price goes up in future?

Inb4 mana MYVi gen 4?

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post Nov 30 2025, 12:47 AM

eeerrrmmmnnn, stupidity has no limit?
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Finally.
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Perodua has confirmed that its upcoming first electric vehicle (EV), the Perodua QV-E, will use lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries sourced from CATL. Perodua also intends to locally source the control units and other electric drive components for the production version.

Battery Details
Supplier: The LFP battery packs will be supplied by CATL, one of the world's largest EV battery manufacturers.

Capacity & Range: The battery will have a capacity of around 52.5 kWh, targeting a real-world driving range of approximately 400-410 km (NEDC cycle).

Ownership Model: Perodua plans to introduce a Battery-as-a-Service (BaaS) model, where customers can lease the battery separately to reduce the initial purchase cost of the vehicle. A conventional ownership option with an 8-year warranty will also be available.


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post Nov 30 2025, 01:08 AM

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so #noque jadi #sureque later?

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hahaha rm80k for a car shell
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Battery monthly how much?
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not EMO meh? don't want to EMO anymore?
now change to QVE ???
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QUOTE(Similanjau @ Nov 30 2025, 01:08 AM)
so #noque jadi #sureque later?

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should change name to EV=Q
more relevant kek
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post Nov 30 2025, 07:19 AM

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we're all waiting for that "batteries are NOT included"

even proton is, high likely the poster is made already...proton admin waiting to press that publish button only laugh.gif
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post Nov 30 2025, 09:15 AM

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Can we use powerbank type c to charge?
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Nov 30 2025, 09:16 AM)
BYD 's sub brand?
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That would be a wiser choice.
If self developed sure to fail.
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post Nov 30 2025, 09:37 AM

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read the fine prine
* battery not included

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post Nov 30 2025, 09:47 AM

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80k for a shell?

Might as well sell Myvi or Alza without engines so customers can select and put their own engines inside. Perodua only need to make the kits for easy swap.
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So is it supposed to be pronounced "Q - Vee"? Because "Q - V - E" doesn't flow that well when spoken.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 30 2025, 09:47 AM)
80k for a shell?

Might as well sell Myvi or Alza without engines so customers can select and put their own engines inside. Perodua only need to make the kits for easy swap.
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Battery cost like buying a new car. Need to go many gomen process to change, even need safety inspection too.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 30 2025, 07:19 AM)
we're all waiting for that "batteries are NOT included"

even proton is, high likely the poster is made already...proton admin waiting to press that publish button only laugh.gif
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They want to try using Apple's marketting.
Apple: charger not included.
P2: Battery not included.

What if buyers don't pay the battery subscription, will P2 disable the car battery using remote management?
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 30 2025, 12:19 PM)
They want to try using Apple's marketting.
Apple: charger not included.
P2: Battery not included.

What if buyers don't pay the battery subscription, will P2 disable the car battery using remote management?
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On auto drive, back to sc after 3 months delay payment owai...
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Launching tmr.. not even a single leaked photo?

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QUOTE(samjet @ Nov 30 2025, 07:41 PM)
Launching tmr.. not even a single leaked photo?
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Perodua pretty good at this unlike proton… that one purposely leak to create hype.
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QUOTE(Avex @ Nov 30 2025, 09:37 AM)
read the fine prine
* battery not included
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We will see how much it is battery leasing price. I think this is the strategy to defend resales value when leasing battery is available there is no need to worry about the cost for battery replacement of second hand d car.
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Say no to EV.

Where is new Myvi?
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Dec 1 2025, 05:20 AM)
We will see how much it is battery leasing price. I think this is the strategy to defend resales value when leasing battery is available there is no need to worry about the cost for battery replacement of second hand d car.
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I buy 80k myvi with monthly subscription. Lel
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Perodua seems slowpoke nowadays.

Proton had release Emas and I saw many Emas on Klang Valley areas.

They already released cheaper version of Emas and recently released Saga.

Where's Bezza replacement?

Where's the mini SUV that they keep giving clue want to release?

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price below 80, could be 79k + monthly subs for batt lol, tak bayar kereta tak boleh jalan?
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QUOTE(xpole @ Dec 1 2025, 07:49 AM)
Perodua seems slowpoke nowadays.

Proton had release Emas and I saw many Emas on Klang Valley areas.

They already released cheaper version of Emas and recently released Saga.

Where's Bezza replacement?

Where's the mini SUV that they keep giving clue want to release?
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emas all tukar logo job. Not even ckd in malaysia yet.
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930am launch.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 1 2025, 09:33 AM)


930am launch.
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Dec 1 2025, 09:19 AM)
price below 80, could be 79k + monthly subs for batt lol, tak bayar kereta tak boleh jalan?
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Probably software would barred the car from charging.
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I thought they gonna announce it at 11am today..
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lol 80k, emas 5 baru 60k
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 1 2025, 08:33 AM)


930am launch.
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QUOTE(xpole @ Dec 1 2025, 07:49 AM)
Perodua seems slowpoke nowadays.

Proton had release Emas and I saw many Emas on Klang Valley areas.

They already released cheaper version of Emas and recently released Saga.

Where's Bezza replacement?

Where's the mini SUV that they keep giving clue want to release?
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cough daihatsu scandal cough
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QUOTE(karazure @ Dec 1 2025, 08:55 AM)
lol 80k, emas 5 baru 60k
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Malaysians sacrifice to support local industry.
You have to thank that old horse for this.

30 years old big baby
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 1 2025, 09:26 AM)
JoeK = MegaCanonF

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60k + monthly subcription for battery?
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what time a? that time protong one delay like 30mins or 45 mins
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QUOTE(SmnLmn @ Dec 1 2025, 10:04 AM)
what time a? that time protong one delay like 30mins or 45 mins
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Start already

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Ynq8v4h3b/
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QUOTE(JimmyX @ Dec 1 2025, 09:32 AM)
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WTF. Super obvious it's made by Malaysians 🤣😂. Look like workshop mod car

N wtf with the Majlis Pelacuran all in the backdrop??

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N wtf with the Majlis Pelacuran all in the backdrop??
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 1 2025, 11:06 AM)
Tara livestream utube ka? sad.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Dec 1 2025, 11:00 AM)
pmx certified must buy
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Malaysians sacrifice to support local industry.
You have to thank that old horse for this.

30 years old big baby
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bila mau besar? console.gif

Rob us for 30 years still not enuf

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 30 2025, 12:46 AM)
Confirm official launch on 1st Dec 2025, this coming monday.
Price below 80K. smile.gif

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:15 AM)

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Why PM not in sidang parliment but so free to tok kok in a car launch?

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Why PM not in sidang parliment but so free to tok kok in a car launch?
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Well this is much more important then other shit - as he can delegate that task to deputy.
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QUOTE(giftfre @ Dec 1 2025, 10:26 AM)
10.25am PMX baru nak bagi ucapan.
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wake me up when they announce price and share what's the T&C of their revolutionary battery leasing program
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cb the price announce macam watch those tiktok livestream
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Price

RM80k without battery
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 10:41 AM)
Price

RM80k without battery
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topkek.
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huh really 80k without battery???
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QUOTE(SmnLmn @ Dec 1 2025, 10:43 AM)
huh really 80k without battery???
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without battery AND insurance.
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looks like toyota b4zx, lexus, byd, nio

but 80K still need to pay for battery..mampos lol
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 10:41 AM)
Price

RM80k without battery
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Dec 1 2025, 10:31 AM)
nani? PMX turun padang?
kenapa PMX tak turun padang mase Saga MC3? oh waii
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QV-E RM80k and purchaser road tax 2026 paid by Perodua.
80k wo...
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How much is the battery?

EV mampu milik that does not include the most important component of the car. Topkek.

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 1 2025, 10:43 AM)
without battery AND insurance.
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All car launch price will exclude insurance la.

But saying it's cheap because no battery is topkek.

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Nampaknya weekend ni nak sapu battery kat Lotu's

Kereta lektrik Battery tak bagi
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 1 2025, 10:45 AM)
How much is the battery?

EV mampu milik that does not include the most important component of the car. Topkek.
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RM275 per month macam
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QUOTE(SmnLmn @ Dec 1 2025, 11:45 AM)
whao battery rm275 monthly sub fees -.-''''
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Depends how pipur think….

Worth it if you think solid state/semi solid state batts that almost double the energy density is coming in the next 2-5 years.

Can just ask the battery leasing company for a new battery upgrade…
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protong give surprise for both emas5 and saga, price lower than expected (as in emas5 say 60 to 80k but emas5 1st batch less than 57k)

ini less than 80k become 80k + 257/m
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 1 2025, 10:47 AM)
Depends how pipur think….

Worth it if you think solid state/semi solid state batts that almost double the energy density is coming in the next 2-5 years.

Can just ask the battery leasing company for a new battery upgrade…
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They can say the new batt model/build not compatible with your car. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SmnLmn @ Dec 1 2025, 10:45 AM)
whao battery rm275 monthly sub fees -.-''''
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 1 2025, 10:47 AM)
Depends how pipur think….

Worth it if you think solid state/semi solid state batts that almost double the energy density is coming in the next 2-5 years.

Can just ask the battery leasing company for a new battery upgrade…
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Yeah right this isn't gonna happen in bolehland soon.

This program might be more like becoming dumping ground for defect/used battery from CCP land laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ycs @ Dec 1 2025, 11:47 AM)

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wow, guess what will happen if buyer default battery fee
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Good question. Can remotely disable the car? Got GPS to track and recover the battery?

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So realistically if u incorporate the battery cost over 10 years it’s a RM113k car
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Good question. Can remotely disable the car? Got GPS to track and recover the battery?
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Does the RM80k come with or without battery? Kena add YoY cost for battery lease.

First 3 years will look cheaper but long term will cost more especially after the 5th year. I am guessing lah
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Geng curi Lorry battery ni akan beralih kpd QV-E battery. Macha assemble and roll.

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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Dec 1 2025, 10:52 AM)
Does the RM80k come with or without battery? Kena add YoY cost for battery lease.

First 3 years will look cheaper but long term will cost more especially after the 5th year. I am guessing lah
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Sample monthly payment calculation, 2.5% interest rate

9 years: RM910 + RM275 = RM1,185
7 years: RM1,120 + RM275 = RM1,395
5 years: RM1,500 + RM275 = RM1,775
Cash purchase: RM275 a month
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 1 2025, 10:51 AM)
Good question. Can remotely disable the car? Got GPS to track and recover the battery?
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ohwa..
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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Dec 1 2025, 10:52 AM)
Does the RM80k come with or without battery? Kena add YoY cost for battery lease.

First 3 years will look cheaper but long term will cost more especially after the 5th year. I am guessing lah
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Yea they say “good resale value” because the battery cost already separated out from the equation in the first place, you are still paying it one way or another

But if u plan to drive 3 years for fun only then perhaps its cheap

It takes the battery out of the depreciation equation and make it more “equal” so even if sell however may hand later it is whoever uses it longer will pay more for the battery.
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cukur more bizniz for towtrucks out there
ohwa..
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when no pay, terus sendiri drive back to some place. u inside car also cant open door brows.gif brows.gif
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Looks good mang

Better than Mat 7
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Looks really good. Impressed. I think this looks better than proton emas 5 n 7.
Did they guarantee any updates on software?
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 10:55 AM)
Yea they say “good resale value” because the battery cost already separated out from the equation in the first place, you are still paying it one way or another

But if u plan to drive 3 years for fun only then perhaps its cheap

It takes the battery out of the depreciation equation and make it more “equal” so even if sell however may hand later it is whoever uses it longer will pay more for the battery.
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Just add in the battery price and lump together. This is so gimmicky. It's not like the battery is optional.
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Looks good but i think it slot in between emas5 and emas7 in term of size and price.

For the battery price added up its like a near rm120k price car.

Consider it the most expensive p2 car but i think emas5 will become the most selling ev car in malaysia.

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QUOTE(dman @ Dec 1 2025, 11:01 AM)
Looks good but i think it slot in between emas5 and emas7 in term of size and price.

For the battery price added up its like a near rm120k price car.

Consider it the most expensive p2 car but i think emas5 will become the most selling ev car in malaysia.
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with battery its main contender is emas7 d. definitely not in between 5 and 7
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QUOTE(ycs @ Dec 1 2025, 10:47 AM)

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the back seat look cramp for me, no back seat aircond vent, the rear macam CHR design, steering design has so many button, steering design also weird as shit, infortainment screen so small

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 10:47 AM)
RM275 per month macam
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 10:55 AM)
Yea they say “good resale value” because the battery cost already separated out from the equation in the first place, you are still paying it one way or another

But if u plan to drive 3 years for fun only then perhaps its cheap

It takes the battery out of the depreciation equation and make it more “equal” so even if sell however may hand later it is whoever uses it longer will pay more for the battery.
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Most Malaysia car owner drag 5-9 years punya loan, Perodua launch BAAS service to protect resale value which i think will backfire when the current owner sell it off. The new owner has to pay RM275/mth to continue using it.
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QUOTE(SmnLmn @ Dec 1 2025, 11:03 AM)
with battery its main contender is emas7 d. definitely not in between 5 and 7
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 1 2025, 11:03 AM)
Most Malaysia car owner drag 5-9 years punya loan, Perodua launch BAAS service to protect resale value which i think will backfire when the current owner sell it off. The new owner has to pay RM275/mth to continue using it.
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Yea resale value on the car body only confirm good lor

Whoever buy still need to pay the 275 per month mah

Btw they say the leasing contract is 9 years, after 9 years how? Still abit conpiusing

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NEDC 445km

Actual range maybe 350km or lower
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so contract ends at 9 years? after that can drive as much as you like without needing to re-contract?

Still I think if one is buying to do grab, possibly the battery warranty is worth it. Otherwise why pay extra 30k for a battery? You can buy a Atto 3 for the same price.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 1 2025, 11:10 AM)
so contract ends at 9 years? after that can drive as much as you like without needing to re-contract?

Still I think if one is buying to do grab, possibly the battery warranty is worth it. Otherwise why pay extra 30k for a battery? You can buy a Atto 3 for the same price.
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No they say the battery is perpetually owned by perodua cuz they want to track it and take it back to safely dispose/recycle it whatever

So I still dunno what happens after 9 years lul

Nobody seems to answer that yet
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:05 AM)
Yea resale value on the car body only confirm good lor

Whoever buy still need to pay the 275 per month mah

Btw they say the leasing contract is 9 years, after 9 years how? Still abit conpiusing

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275 battery is not inclusive of charging?
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 1 2025, 11:15 AM)
275 battery is not inclusive of charging?
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I will pass this, let lab rats test it out first.
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If want sell second hand only can sell through P2

Tabulih private
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 1 2025, 10:55 AM)
fffuuuu, design banyak chantekk.
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exterior only, interior macam so-so

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:00 AM)
Ada push start button weih don’t play play

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:05 AM)
Yea resale value on the car body only confirm good lor

Whoever buy still need to pay the 275 per month mah

Btw they say the leasing contract is 9 years, after 9 years how? Still abit conpiusing

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A lot details need to spill out, if not 2nd hand car dealer won't makan this car, or Perodua themself jadi second hand car dealer?

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 1 2025, 11:10 AM)
so contract ends at 9 years? after that can drive as much as you like without needing to re-contract?

Still I think if one is buying to do grab, possibly the battery warranty is worth it. Otherwise why pay extra 30k for a battery? You can buy a Atto 3 for the same price.
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Using it doing commercial sure cannot lah, i'm sure Perodua will state in the BAAS agreement.

Baik beli emas 5 lah for grab
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:11 AM)
No they say the battery is perpetually owned by perodua cuz they want to track it and take it back to safely dispose/recycle it whatever

So I still dunno what happens after 9 years lul

Nobody seems to answer that yet
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Anyway, after 9 years - you no longer have to pay the monthly payment and just use the battery as-is. But also won't have anymore warranty etc.

Let's say if your battery really konk after Y11, you return to perodua to dispose, and start a new BaaS again.
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why not just lease the whole car
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 1 2025, 11:21 AM)

A lot details need to spill out, if not 2nd hand car dealer won't makan this car, or Perodua themself jadi second hand car dealer?
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Ya see some article say can only sell through Perodua Pre Owned program

Cuz they need keep track of the new owner and new owner need sign separate leasing agreement again for battery
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Apa benda la P2. Da bayar sewa 275/ month lagi re-charge kena bayar lagi.
RM 275 bersamaan 138 litre RON95 (not including EV charging fee).
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 12:26 PM)
Ya see some article say can only sell through Perodua Pre Owned program

Cuz they need keep track of the new owner and new owner need sign separate leasing agreement again for battery
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Interior looks out in my opinion.
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 12:09 PM)
NEDC 445km

Actual range maybe 350km or lower
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Wltp machem 380km+

A bit lower than top spec eMat7

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 1 2025, 11:22 AM)
Anyway, after 9 years - you no longer have to pay the monthly payment and just use the battery as-is. But also won't have anymore warranty etc.

Let's say if your battery really konk after Y11, you return to perodua to dispose, and start a new BaaS again.
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How long will they make the battery available? Let’s say 10 years later I want new battery new lease they still make ka kek

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 12:30 PM)
How long will they make the battery available? Let’s say 10 years later I want new battery new lease they still make ka kek
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10 years later probably same size battery pack energy density probably woredi double.

Maybe given brand new 100kwh catl battery pack lulz biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 1 2025, 11:31 AM)
10 years later probably same size battery pack energy density probably woredi double.

Maybe given brand new 100kwh catl battery pack lulz biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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but in reality how they want to stop unauthorised ppl selling their car to carsome / carro / private/ or even worse sambung bayar? haha . maybe there's an apple like authorization needed? who knows
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:26 AM)
Ya see some article say can only sell through Perodua Pre Owned program

Cuz they need keep track of the new owner and new owner need sign separate leasing agreement again for battery
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good luck for them selling this, salesman going to need to read the whole fine print and explain to owner. If salesman is not well train then u have plenty of misleading case.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Dec 1 2025, 12:38 PM)
but in reality how they want to stop unauthorised ppl selling their car to carsome / carro / private/ or even worse sambung bayar? haha . maybe there's an apple like authorization needed? who knows
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Really kenot lar. Have to DIY the new battery but used the existing battery casing…

The lease battery, p2 will simply software barred it from charging/brick…
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dont really get the point of the whole battery service thingy

why not just be simple and include the cost of the battery with the car just like every other EV? it's not like Nio's version of swappable battery also

unless there's a chance in the future to upgrade to a larger battery for more range, dont really see the point of this
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pros and cons... for this EV.

pros.. .car cheaper.. so of coz insurance cover (only car exclude battery) also lesser, resale value is higher lor. any tong gua taufu to the battery is cover by perodua. car exterior design is nice. Running range is longer.

cons... battery need to lease per month, expensive compare to others. interior not so nice, screen so small... if add up total cost is more expensive than others.

smell like this ev will fail
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one look at the interior and you know those plastics gonna be typical cheap Perodua type..... 80k for this?

and dont really get the point of the whole battery service thingy

why not just be simple and include the cost of the battery with the car just like every other EV? initially i thought this is something like Nio's swappable battery, but no?

unless there's a chance in the future to upgrade to a larger battery for more range, dont really see the point of this

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Dec 1 2025, 11:42 AM)
pros and cons... for this EV.

pros.. .car cheaper.. so of coz insurance cover (only car exclude battery) also lesser, resale value is higher lor. any tong gua taufu to the battery is cover by perodua. car exterior design is nice. Running range is longer.

cons... battery need to lease per month, expensive compare to others. interior not so nice, screen so small... if add up total cost is more expensive than others.

smell like this ev will fail
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yea, right now rose tinted glasses see all good

can foresee the battery sub issue become a major headache to all parties
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Just buy Atto2 for similar price with battery included
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:00 AM)
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Why exactly they chose to include this? Can't wakeup from unlock?
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Why exactly they chose to include this? Can't wakeup from unlock?
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Maybe software not smart enough

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Dec 1 2025, 11:42 AM)
pros and cons... for this EV.

pros.. .car cheaper.. so of coz insurance cover (only car exclude battery) also lesser, resale value is higher lor. any tong gua taufu to the battery is cover by perodua. car exterior design is nice. Running range is longer.

cons... battery need to lease per month, expensive compare to others. interior not so nice, screen so small... if add up total cost is more expensive than others.

smell like this ev will fail
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range is still lower than emas 7

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that seat at the back really for children. floor so high up and bench so short even 170cm adult would be uncomfortable.
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Dec 1 2025, 11:42 AM)
pros and cons... for this EV.

pros.. .car cheaper.. so of coz insurance cover (only car exclude battery) also lesser, resale value is higher lor. any tong gua taufu to the battery is cover by perodua. car exterior design is nice. Running range is longer.

cons... battery need to lease per month, expensive compare to others. interior not so nice, screen so small... if add up total cost is more expensive than others.

smell like this ev will fail
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Are you sure about this? Insurance is about risk, why would they cover car without battery? You can't drive the car without battery.


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The rear seats are pretty cramped from images and videos
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 1 2025, 11:31 AM)
10 years later probably same size battery pack energy density probably woredi double.

Maybe given brand new 100kwh catl battery pack lulz biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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No, when recontract they will increase price, u have no other choice but accept. Good thing is as long u keep recontract pay monthly. no need worry pay lump sum change battery. But loan battery you dont expect is new lar, confirm refurbish and refurbish, then good luck waiting service center queue change battery. This loan battery thing seem like we always at the mercy of P2 does not sound well to me.

New spec battery, they can just tell u not compatible, can only be use on new model car.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 1 2025, 10:14 AM)
Tara livestream utube ka? sad.gif
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 1 2025, 11:47 AM)
Are you sure about this? Insurance is about risk, why would they cover car without battery? You can't drive the car without battery.
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If fire caused by battery not coveted. Very clever
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Maybe software not smart enough
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Or they expect the common Perodua buyer not smart enough. Too many people ask EV owners how to "start" and "off" the cars.
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Dec 1 2025, 11:42 AM)
pros and cons... for this EV.

pros.. .car cheaper.. so of coz insurance cover (only car exclude battery) also lesser, resale value is higher lor. any tong gua taufu to the battery is cover by perodua. car exterior design is nice. Running range is longer.

cons... battery need to lease per month, expensive compare to others. interior not so nice, screen so small... if add up total cost is more expensive than others.

smell like this ev will fail
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the only pro for me is the exterior design really nice.... for a local car, this I really give credits to them

other than that dont see any reason why must get this EV instead of others....

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Dec 1 2025, 12:46 PM)
that seat at the back really for children. floor so high up and bench so short even 170cm adult would be uncomfortable.
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I think theres some sort of agreement with daddy Toyoda…

P2 can wonly make A and B segment car…. 👀
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 1 2025, 11:46 AM)
range is still lower than emas 7

𝐃𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐧 / 𝐁𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐲 / 𝐑𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 / 𝐀𝐂 / 𝐃𝐂 / 𝐕𝟐𝐋:
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But E.mas 7 is C-segment.... this they benchmark with BYD dolphin lol

QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 1 2025, 11:47 AM)
Are you sure about this? Insurance is about risk, why would they cover car without battery? You can't drive the car without battery.
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https://pictr.com/images/2025/12/01/xQzKBD.jpg
If u see this if my understanding is correct insurance they said is paid by customer... meaning only cover the car price csutomer paid right? battery paid by Perodua...
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 11:45 AM)
Just buy Atto2 for similar price with battery included
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nope better buy proton emas 7, c segment bigger spacious and faster ac 11kw & dc 100kw charging
produa qve 80k car price + 9 years of battery lease 29 700 = rm 109 700 already, b segment, slow ac charging at 7kw & dc 60kw charging

cannot lar
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 1 2025, 11:53 AM)
nope better buy proton emas 7, c segment bigger spacious and faster ac 11kw & dc 100kw charging
produa qve 80k car price + 9 years of battery lease 29 700 = rm 109 700 already, b segment, slow ac charging at 7kw & dc 60kw charging

cannot lar
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itu battery leasing kena add in 8% service tax, so total is RM32k
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 1 2025, 11:54 AM)
itu battery leasing kena add in 8% service tax, so total is RM32k
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 1 2025, 11:54 AM)
itu battery leasing kena add in 8% service tax, so total is RM32k
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produa want to fight with emas 5 with the price tag of emas 7?
what weed they smoking ah?
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Dec 1 2025, 11:44 AM)
yea, right now rose tinted glasses see all good

can foresee the battery sub issue become a major headache to all parties
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The fact that they don't have the confident to include Batery in price, insurance also no coveted is VERY telling.

Batery guarantee life time. Apa lan jao maksud? The batery Kong get free recon batery replace ke everything dip below 80% can get replacement?? Or 70% lah.
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I think if they use this design and rebadge some Toyota model like BZ4x maybe reception would be better... but Toyota probably don't allow kek, and Daihatsu don't have EV
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Dec 1 2025, 11:51 AM)
But E.mas 7 is C-segment....  this they benchmark with BYD dolphin lol
https://pictr.com/images/2025/12/01/xQzKBD.jpg
If u see this if my understanding is correct insurance they said is paid by customer... meaning only cover the car price csutomer paid right?  battery paid by Perodua...
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Hmm, it says battery performance covered by Perodua. So if battery kaboom, total lost, Perodua pay? Since insurance company only cover body.

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At least the body design is the most outstanding of all P2 models. Hope they can bring this body design for new Myvi Gen4 to cut development cost
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 1 2025, 11:56 AM)
produa want to fight with emas 5 with the price tag of emas 7?
what weed they smoking ah?
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the car segment is crossover SUV which in middle of emas 5 and emas 7, but the price include battery is very close to emas 7

RM112k (80k + battery SST 32k) over period of 9 years, top up sikit boleh beli emas 7 liao

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Dec 1 2025, 12:01 PM)
At least the body design is the most outstanding of all P2 models. Hope they can bring this body design for new Myvi Gen4 to cut development cost
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Correct the only pros for this EV to me is that it proves our local designers still can come out with some decent design (some say they copy paste from several other designs but wtv.... every car brand doing this now)




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sampah perodua, after all bs, cant make it below 100k

time to open the sub-100k gate officially to let other foreign brands to masuk
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 1 2025, 12:02 PM)
the car segment is crossover SUV which in middle of emas 5 and emas 7, but the price include battery is very close to emas 7

RM112k (80k + battery SST 32k) over period of 9 years, top up sikit boleh beli emas 7 liao
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better straight away buy proton emas 7
or if die die want to become lab rat buy leapmotor b10 segment c at 110k to 120k or c10 125k segment d and no bouncy soft suspension like emas / byd / xpeng / zeekr



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QUOTE(premier239 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:04 PM)
sampah perodua, after all bs, cant make it below 100k

time to open the sub-100k gate officially to let other foreign brands to masuk
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kasi chan, P1 can make it with emat5 coz they are just rebadging stuff . the stuff already established n ady there .

with P2, its from scratch . RnD cost sure high . jepunis are so behind CCP in EV race .

how to meet bmx target sub100k?

remove the battery , then can put headline- EV 80 k with small fineprint - batt sold seperately n call it a day


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Since it is BAAS, would it be possible to change the battery with self bought Aliexpress battery to avoid paying P2? biggrin.gif
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Kan dah cakap emas5 and new saga really kill them

Kasian Perodua. How to fight geely is global brand in ev
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 1 2025, 12:11 PM)
Since it is BAAS, would it be possible to change the battery with self bought Aliexpress battery to avoid paying P2? biggrin.gif
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This is not lego. Do you know how heavy the EV battery is? Not to mention how dangerous battery kaboom risk. This cannot DIY.


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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 1 2025, 12:15 PM)
This is not lego. Do you know how heavy the EV battery is? Not to mention how dangerous battery kaboom risk. This cannot DIY.
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Tell that to 2nd hand sellers that eventually needs an answer to this.
How to sell the car without battery?
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Hmm, it says battery performance covered by Perodua. So if battery kaboom, total lost, Perodua pay? Since insurance company only cover body.
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you guess if battery really gone south, they blame you as owner first or perodua/battery supplier blame themself whistling.gif
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Lol P2 use NEDC to misled people.. Even P1 use WLTP in their advertisement now
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Dec 1 2025, 12:14 PM)
Kan dah cakap emas5 and new saga really kill them

Kasian Perodua. How to fight geely is global brand in ev
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QV-E got the access to Japan EV tech I guess, but that is second tier technology compare to china EV

pay 100k plus, get car body only, without battery and second tier technology

damn son
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Lol P2 use NEDC to misled people.. Even P1 use WLTP in their advertisement now
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very seldom see people quote NEDC figures

oh perodua
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still got a lot of questions unanswered.

Paying the damn battery for 9 years and only warranty applied if battery drop below 70%

1. After 9 years, still need to pay or not need to enjoy lifetime warranty?
2. or there is no lifetime warranty?
3. how about inverter warranty, included?
4. if there is service dispute due to making the battery "kong" , still under warranty?
5. need to be service by Perodua lifetime in order to enjoy the warranty?

btw if all add up, than car costing above 110k ler

can think think Emas7 too

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:21 PM)
QV-E got the access to Japan EV tech I guess, but that is second tier technology compare to china EV

pay 100k plus, get car body only, without battery and second tier technology

damn son
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Not sure where the powertrain came from unless I misread it, but the platform is developed with Magna Steyr

Battery is from CATL

Currently there's no Daihatsu EV for reference also.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 1 2025, 12:09 PM)
better straight away buy proton emas 7
or if die die want to become lab rat buy leapmotor b10 segment c at 110k to 120k or c10 125k segment d and no bouncy soft suspension like emas / byd / xpeng / zeekr


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with same price might as well consider Atto 2 with RM85k or BYD Seal 6 at RM100-116k

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:21 PM)
QV-E got the access to Japan EV tech I guess, but that is second tier technology compare to china EV

pay 100k plus, get car body only, without battery and second tier technology

damn son
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we're all waiting for that "batteries are NOT included"

even proton is, high likely the poster is made already...proton admin waiting to press that publish button only laugh.gif
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:21 PM)
QV-E got the access to Japan EV tech I guess, but that is second tier technology compare to china EV

pay 100k plus, get car body only, without battery and second tier technology

damn son
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Kesian. Jepunis tarak EV. This one dunno subcon with dunno which cina company
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Kesian. Jepunis tarak EV. This one dunno subcon with dunno which cina company
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magna steyr is austrian , so angmo company
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:24 PM)
still got a lot of questions unanswered.

Paying the damn battery for 9 years and only warranty applied if battery drop below 70%

1. After 9 years, still need to pay or not need to enjoy lifetime warranty?
2. or there is no lifetime warranty?
3. how about inverter warranty, included?
4. if there is service dispute due to making the battery "kong" , still under warranty?
5. need to be service by Perodua lifetime in order to enjoy the warranty?

btw if all add up, than car costing above 110k ler

can think think Emas7 too
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Number 5 for sure bro. Even My CRZ hybrid need to stick to service centre for 8 years for warranty purpose. For sure outside workshop cannot cari makan with Perodua EV
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Dec 1 2025, 12:33 PM)
magna steyr is austrian , so angmo company
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No wonder spent hundreds of millions in “RnD”

Bayar angmo consultants tu
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Dec 1 2025, 12:33 PM)
magna steyr is austrian , so angmo company
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DOA, should've priced at 50k for body and rm300 baas monthly then only makes sense. might as well get the seal6 or atto 2 which is still cheaper than this and include battery
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so next year second hand drop 40%?

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Dec 1 2025, 01:33 PM)
magna steyr is austrian , so angmo company
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They JV with Xpeng to make EV for Austria market
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/770381
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:21 PM)
QV-E got the access to Japan EV tech I guess, but that is second tier technology compare to china EV

pay 100k plus, get car body only, without battery and second tier technology

damn son
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Japan EV tech… ohmy.gif


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QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:50 PM)
They JV with Xpeng to make EV for Austria market
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/770381
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Itu just manufacturing

This P2 macam from the start sudah contract them as consultant from design stage

Long time ago I already found out they involved from a Zafool post
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:35 PM)
Number 5 for sure bro. Even My CRZ hybrid need to stick to service centre for 8 years for warranty purpose. For sure outside workshop cannot cari makan with Perodua EV
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it's basically a trap by doing so.....especially to an EV
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QUOTE(Avex @ Dec 1 2025, 12:48 PM)
so next year second hand drop 40%?
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how to sell? u pay for the battery with the loan, its single payment during signing . only the d/p follow body price . so buyer no choice to continue all the way until tenure ends otherwise prepare to burn the money .unless they have a clause for exit policy upon early termination

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 1 2025, 12:50 PM)
Japan EV tech… ohmy.gif


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desmond troll about jap tech
you dont even need to know much about car, also know jap bev tech almost not exist whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Robottoes @ Dec 1 2025, 12:47 PM)
DOA, should've priced at 50k for body and rm300 baas monthly then only makes sense. might as well get the seal6 or atto 2 which is still cheaper than this and include battery
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At max 65k and BaaS around RM150/mth..

Now this EV won't be Perodua normally target mass customers.
For those can afford and willingly to buy, there are a lot better choice with similar price range and maybe higher spec.



But if they can change/add in and ICE...and selling at RM80k or below.. then whistling.gif

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 1 2025, 12:26 PM)
Not sure where the powertrain came from unless I misread it, but the platform is developed with Magna Steyr

Battery is from CATL

Currently there's no Daihatsu EV for  reference also.
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magna steyr is sort of engineering consultant, it still need some manufacturer to produce the powertrain
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hopefully 800m RnD not included the rental battery BS
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Fuh 800mil, how much paid to angmo
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hopefully 800m RnD not included the rental battery BS
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2 years to develop a brand new platform is ccp fast. Way way fast.

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2 years to develop a brand new platform is ccp fast. Way way fast.
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i don think thats a completely brand new chassis...
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2 years to develop a brand new platform is ccp fast. Way way fast.
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that is BS fast and cheap

100% for scratch is last time what Proton did with gen 2 and saga blm


800 million is not enough even that time
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Have to kudo to P2 willing to go local this time for EV, unlike Proton that just reselling China rebadge car...

But I think one of the reason also could be due to Daihatsu also don't have EV yet? Just stay in concept stage since 2022 so nothing to copy over yet.

Anyway, this QVE is just a starting point and hope P2 can gain momentum from there.
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saw so many negativity comments on FB... not sure p2 will revise their pricing or not lol
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:31 PM)
that is BS fast and cheap

100% for scratch is last time what Proton did with gen 2 and saga blm
800 million is not enough even that time
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I would be wary about this car. Sorry to say but brand new homologation cannot take so fast. Unless they not from scratch, all recycle.

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:31 PM)
that is BS fast and cheap

100% for scratch is last time what Proton did with gen 2 and saga blm
800 million is not enough even that time
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EV development is faster, easier and cheaper than ICE

It's one of the reasons why China automotive industry skip ICE and go all in on EV

And why you can see so many new brands with EV even if they never made a car before

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:24 PM)
i don think thats a completely brand new chassis...
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Perodua got help from Magna Steyr.

Magna is like one stop centre for car design, etc.

They have car designs, etc in stock and car manufacturers can get purchased from them.

https://www.magna.com/company/company-infor...ups/magna-steyr


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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:43 PM)
Perodua got help from Magna Steyr.

Magna is like one stop centre for car design, etc.

They have car designs, etc in stock and car manufacturers can get purchased from them.

https://www.magna.com/company/company-infor...ups/magna-steyr
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Yep macam OEM choose parts and systems then kasi pasang

that's why P2 keep just emphasizing they "own the IP"

probably most of the core stuff they buy from Magna and their supply chains, but they paid so they "own" whatever resulting design IP.

The 50%+ local content i think is almost everything else other than the core parts, still can make up more than 50% since EV less parts owai

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:43 PM)
Perodua got help from Magna Steyr.

Magna is like one stop centre for car design, etc.

They have car designs, etc in stock and car manufacturers can get purchased from them.

https://www.magna.com/company/company-infor...ups/magna-steyr
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Did Perodua mention where the induction motor came from?
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u guys dont blow water sky up high

bila masuk produktion?

place booking today, bila boleh angkat kereta dulu? 2027?

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 1 2025, 01:51 PM)
u guys dont blow water sky up high

bila masuk produktion?

place booking today, bila boleh angkat kereta dulu? 2027?
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nak cepat pergi book emas 5
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Did Perodua mention where the induction motor came from?
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Not sure on that, batteries are from CATL.
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For what's shown today, colour me impressed.
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Dec 1 2025, 02:00 PM)
Not sure on that, batteries are from CATL.
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the mysterious part... we know chassis is from Magna, battery from CATL. but the the 2 other most important component for EV - the motor and BMS is unknown

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 1 2025, 02:04 PM)
the mysterious part... we know chassis is from Magna, battery from CATL. but the the 2 other most important component for EV - the motor and BMS is unknown
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Maybe from Magna also,

https://www.magna.com/products/powertrain/bev-powertrain

https://www.magna.com/products/electrical-e...control-modules
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Dec 1 2025, 02:09 PM)
Hopefully its efficient but doubt it
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 1 2025, 01:51 PM)
u guys dont blow water sky up high

bila masuk produktion?

place booking today, bila boleh angkat kereta dulu? 2027?
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this month masuk production, sales bagus or not is different story
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This car calculated even with battery is RM100K++ for 9 years have not added interest yet.
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This car definitely cannot sell at 80k, If 60k confirm sell like hotcake. Think people dumb meh spend 80k for car frame and cheap looking interior plastics. Battery is 30-50% total cost of EV (sos chatgpt), so car price should also be reflective of that since its BaaS.
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Tai Choo Yee mentioned in the video, Perodua pressure by government not to price it above RM80k and they offer BAAS to comply it laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Dec 1 2025, 02:17 PM)
This car definitely cannot sell at 80k, If 60k confirm sell like hotcake. Think people dumb meh spend 80k for car frame and cheap looking interior plastics. Battery is 30-50% total cost of EV (sos chatgpt), so car price should also be reflective of that since its BaaS.
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Actually P2 play tricky people all around. They said battery is leasing but compulsory to get the battery to buy the car. Apo taik punya marketing.
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Tai Choo Yee mentioned in the video, Perodua pressure by government not to price it above RM80k and they offer BAAS to comply it laugh.gif
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So what price including battery that they wanted? RM100k for this?
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It’s the most stupid concept ever & those who would be buying it are even more stupid.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Dec 1 2025, 02:19 PM)
Actually P2 play tricky people all around. They said battery is leasing but compulsory to get the battery to buy the car. Apo taik punya marketing.
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So u want to buy the car without the battery?
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u guys dont blow water sky up high

bila masuk produktion?

place booking today, bila boleh angkat kereta dulu? 2027?
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You ambik battery pigi charge rumah dulu. Itu body siap lepas tu sya hantar.

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 1 2025, 02:23 PM)
So what price including battery that they wanted? RM100k for this?
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99k with battery will sell like hot cake believe or not whistling.gif
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One thing other may have missed.

The DC Charging Speed is very low for a 2025 car.
Only 60kW, which is 1.15C.

Let's look at what others in the price point does:
Emat5 can do 1.77C (not same price point but just comparison)
Leapmotor B10 2.5C
Emat7 1.83C
Atuk3 1.48C
Wumouda E5 1.33C

Only one reason cars in 2025 have very slow charging rate. I wont state it here, you can google or ask AI why DC charging rate so slow.
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And the actual price is RM109k. For a P2 locally designed unproven EV? Nah
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Dec 1 2025, 02:53 PM)
And the actual price is RM109k. For a P2 locally designed unproven EV? Nah
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The drivetrain and bms by Magna Steyr ok la.
Chassis also super proven coz based on Myvi.

Actually not much can go wrong at this point.
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other than the battery, why lah they kept the 18" tyres. should have used smaller size to keep the operating cost lower
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QUOTE(marvinben @ Dec 1 2025, 02:56 PM)
The drivetrain and bms by Magna Steyr ok la.
Chassis also super proven coz based on Myvi.

Actually not much can go wrong at this point.
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99k with battery will sell like hot cake believe or not whistling.gif
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At 99K you can get e.MAS 7 Prime and BYD Seal 6. It's kinda lacking to compete at that price range.
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the mysterious part... we know chassis is from Magna, battery from CATL. but the the 2 other most important component for EV - the motor and BMS is unknown
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If me, I will not waste RM800M on R&D for EV.

Because
1. EV technology are changing fast
2. P2 don't have the volume
3. There is no confirm big market for it unless go for affordability market segment.

This P2 EV pricing is so wrong and timing also so wrong as well.

Well play for P1 launching the eMas5 before P2
They really killing P2 EV in terms of price segment and size.

P2 should just find China EV manufacturer and get the right to manufacture and selling in Malaysia. Imagine if P2 work with BYD and got the right to produce Atto 1 and Atto 2 at very affordable price. It win win situation for both.

Me surprised they go choose Europe guy do EV design and kena charge kawkaw Euro. The design especially the lack of 2nd row leg seating due to battery placement are so old fashion. It already well-known customer dislike those seating arrangement.

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inb4 perodua staff this year how many month bonus with the launch of this ev
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 1 2025, 03:05 PM)
If me, I will not waste RM800M on R&D for EV.

Because
1. EV technology are changing fast
2. P2 don't have the volume
3. There is no confirm big market for it unless go for affordability market segment.

This P2 EV pricing is so wrong and timing also so wrong as well.

Well play for P1 launching the eMas5 before P2
They really killing P2 EV in terms of price segment and size.

P2 should just find China EV manufacturer and get the right to manufacture and selling in Malaysia. Imagine if P2 work with BYD and got the right to produce Atto 1 and Atto 2 at very affordable price. It win win situation for both.

Me surprised they go choose Europe guy do EV design and kena charge kawkaw Euro. The design especially the lack of 2nd row leg seating due to battery placement are so old fashion. It already well-known customer dislike those seating arrangement.
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Another stupid intervention or directive by the government. I see no reason why we should waste RM800m and it is not even cheap. Just for the bragging rights? Are they able to continue with further development when the product lifecycle for EV is so short. Are they able to sell overseas and compete with China?
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Dec 1 2025, 03:25 PM)
Another stupid intervention or directive by the government. I see no reason why we should waste RM800m and it is not even cheap. Just for the bragging rights? Are they able to continue with further development when the product lifecycle for EV is so short. Are they able to sell overseas and compete with China?
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RM800mil not using government coffer money, it is using Perodua money and resources
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RM800mil not using government coffer money, it is using Perodua money and resources
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Agreed but this RM800M will write off as expenses against any profit P2 generated. Indirectly gov will collect less tax and hurting themselves. If gov give double tax deductible, then really Sohai lor

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RM800mil not using government coffer money, it is using Perodua money and resources
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Perodua is owned by UMW/Toyota which is owned by Sime Darby which is owned by PNB so indirectly taxpayers money is involved. Toyota only owns 10% of Perodua.
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RM270/m for batt w min 9 years contract?
aiyoooooo

'buy ev bro, cheap, charging cost very cheap, save earth also, + made by local for local maa, kasi support!'
'ok2 i buy, ehhh bro why kenot charge?'
'ah, i forgot, on top of charging cost, u also kena pay min RM270 every month for 9 years TO USE the batt'
'eh, but i already pay installment to bank?'
'ooooh, that one for body only, batt lain hutang maaa'
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 1 2025, 03:34 PM)
Agreed but this RM800M will write off as expenses against any profit P2 generated. Indirectly gov will collect less tax and hurting themselves. If gov give double tax deductible, then really Sohai lor
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Dec 1 2025, 03:40 PM)
Perodua is owned by UMW/Toyota which is owned by Sime Darby which is owned by PNB so indirectly taxpayers money is involved. Toyota only owns 10% of Perodua.
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So u expect Perodua to stuck with Daihatsu and not doing anything on the EV development? They have to start by hook or crook to align government policy of zero carbon emission by year 2050.

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any news/ update about the service cost? like byd or how?
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 1 2025, 04:05 PM)
If me, I will not waste RM800M on R&D for EV.

Because
1. EV technology are changing fast
2. P2 don't have the volume
3. There is no confirm big market for it unless go for affordability market segment.

This P2 EV pricing is so wrong and timing also so wrong as well.

Well play for P1 launching the eMas5 before P2
They really killing P2 EV in terms of price segment and size.

P2 should just find China EV manufacturer and get the right to manufacture and selling in Malaysia. Imagine if P2 work with BYD and got the right to produce Atto 1 and Atto 2 at very affordable price. It win win situation for both.

Me surprised they go choose Europe guy do EV design and kena charge kawkaw Euro. The design especially the lack of 2nd row leg seating due to battery placement are so old fashion. It already well-known customer dislike those seating arrangement.
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Apa u bisink….

P2 is richfag lar…

Every year sell 300k++ car…

Command minimum 40% of total passenger car sales market share in msia for years mang…

800mil r&d moneh is sap sap sui for them lar
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Protruding battery like Honla?

Seems like confirm not CATL skateboard platform maybe some outdated platform from Magna

user posted image

Or is for “easy and fast battery swap” like they claimed some time ago I remember

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Dec 1 2025, 02:35 PM)
So u want to buy the car without the battery?
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P2 already stated Battery compulsory to be included to buy the car. So what is the leasing means? If this the case what is the point to state leasing, if it it still the same like you loan fully for the car.

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This must be giving some ideas to say phone manufacturers.

Here we have the iPhone 20 selling @RM5,999.00 without the battery but it's available for an additional RM1,099.00. Brilliant innit?

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Dec 1 2025, 04:49 PM)
This must be giving some ideas to say phone manufacturers.

Here we have the iPhone 20 selling @RM5,999.00 without the battery but it's available for an additional RM1,099.00. Brilliant innit?
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If follow qve leasing program, then iphone 20 selling 5999 unlocked but under whatever lution carrier plan, you get the phone for 3999, monthly payment in postpaid bill is rm90 telco + rm50 battery leasing, contract 24 months need pay full telco + battery fees in bill during this period or else early termination is full remaining months of telco + battery fees
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 04:37 PM)
Protruding battery like Honla?

Seems like confirm not CATL skateboard platform maybe some outdated platform from Magna

user posted image

Or is for “easy and fast battery swap” like they claimed some time ago I remember
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Ooof.

Not convincing.
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Dec 1 2025, 03:00 PM)
other than the battery, why lah they kept the 18" tyres. should have used smaller size to keep the operating cost lower
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18 inch easier to find tyre with enough load rating. Also they are cheap now. Gone are the days 18 inch tyre rm800 each.
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Dec 1 2025, 03:50 PM)
RM270/m for batt w min 9 years contract?
aiyoooooo

'buy ev bro, cheap, charging cost very cheap, save earth also, + made by local for local maa, kasi support!'
'ok2 i buy, ehhh bro why kenot charge?'
'ah, i forgot, on top of charging cost, u also kena pay min RM270 every month for 9 years TO USE the batt'
'eh, but i already pay installment to bank?'
'ooooh, that one for body only, batt lain hutang maaa'
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Contract mean, cannot do full settlement earlier must finish the full 9 years month payment, is it? Bank banyak untung intesrest lor. Because next year gomen implement the new law to loan for abolition of the flat-rate and the "Rule of 78" interest calculation methods in favor of the fairer reducing balance method which is benefit to early settlement.
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 04:37 PM)
Protruding battery like Honla?

Seems like confirm not CATL skateboard platform maybe some outdated platform from Magna

user posted image

Or is for “easy and fast battery swap” like they claimed some time ago I remember
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mana protection cover? shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 1 2025, 04:37 PM)
Protruding battery like Honla?

Seems like confirm not CATL skateboard platform maybe some outdated platform from Magna

user posted image

Or is for “easy and fast battery swap” like they claimed some time ago I remember
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They didn't promise within the leasing year the battery subscription fee does not increase. We all see other service subscription fee will increase 3-4 years later.
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Dec 1 2025, 07:27 PM)
They didn't promise within the leasing year the battery subscription fee does not increase. We all see other service subscription fee will increase 3-4 years later.
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There will be a lot complication later.

Example
If involved in accident, car minor problem, EV batteries got damaged, Claim under which 1? If batteries not under yr insured item list since it not own by you. How?

If car total lost or major accidents but battery still OK. Need continue paying RM300/mth until end of 9 years?

If battery technology getting better and cheaper, will replace better batteries or reduce the monthly amount?

Will P2 keep it promise after 9 years can renew at certain prices? Or like others brand, charging absurd amounts to discourage sign up?
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 1 2025, 07:39 PM)
There will be a lot complication later.

Example
If involved in accident, car minor problem, EV batteries got damaged, Claim under which 1? If batteries not under yr insured item list since it not own by you. How?

If car total lost or major accidents but battery still OK. Need continue paying RM300/mth until end of 9 years?

If battery technology getting better and cheaper, will replace better batteries or reduce the monthly amount?

Will P2 keep it promise after 9 years can renew at certain prices? Or like others brand, charging absurd amounts to discourage sign up?
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Also another question, if need to change battery, will give you brand new battery or remanufactured battery like tesla? This damn important info..
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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Dec 1 2025, 08:52 PM)
Also another question, if need to change battery, will give you brand new battery or remanufactured battery like tesla? This damn important info..
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refurbish battery lah ofcourse
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 1 2025, 08:55 PM)
refurbish battery lah ofcourse
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 1 2025, 12:28 PM)
with same price might as well consider Atto 2 with RM85k or BYD Seal 6 at RM100-116k
Japan mana ada EV tech
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atto 2 is the most probably the better choice, since seal 6 is sedan
but still i guess atto 3 or emas 7 is the best choice here

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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Dec 1 2025, 08:57 PM)
fuuh, imagine paying monthly for refurbished battery
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 1 2025, 07:39 PM)
There will be a lot complication later.

Example
If involved in accident, car minor problem, EV batteries got damaged, Claim under which 1? If batteries not under yr insured item list since it not own by you. How?

If car total lost or major accidents but battery still OK. Need continue paying RM300/mth until end of 9 years?

If battery technology getting better and cheaper, will replace better batteries or reduce the monthly amount?

Will P2 keep it promise after 9 years can renew at certain prices? Or like others brand, charging absurd amounts to discourage sign up?
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Dec 1 2025, 03:25 PM)
Another stupid intervention or directive by the government. I see no reason why we should waste RM800m and it is not even cheap. Just for the bragging rights? Are they able to continue with further development when the product lifecycle for EV is so short. Are they able to sell overseas and compete with China?
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$800m is P2 own's money lettew

youtuber sos cakap this QV-E is developed on modular platform (sedan/hatchback/SUV) to suit different powertrains altogether (ice/hybrid/reev/bev)

so the R&D cost is shared across future models / currently in development (new myvi)

QUOTE(danielmckey @ Dec 1 2025, 04:45 PM)
P2 already stated Battery compulsory to be included to buy the car. So what is the leasing means? If this the case what is the point to state leasing, if it it still the same like you loan fully for the car.
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unlimited km mileage battery warranty as boasted by P2

QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 1 2025, 04:55 PM)
If follow qve leasing program, then iphone 20 selling 5999 unlocked but under whatever lution carrier plan, you get the phone for 3999, monthly payment in postpaid bill is rm90 telco + rm50 battery leasing, contract 24 months need pay full telco + battery fees in bill during this period or else early termination is full remaining months of telco + battery fees
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 1 2025, 03:05 PM)
If me, I will not waste RM800M on R&D for EV.

Because
1. EV technology are changing fast
2. P2 don't have the volume
3. There is no confirm big market for it unless go for affordability market segment.
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youtuber sos cakap this QV-E is developed on modular platform (sedan/hatchback/SUV) to suit different powertrains altogether (ice/hybrid/reev/bev)

so the R&D cost is shared across future models / currently in development (new myvi)
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Dec 1 2025, 03:40 PM)
Perodua is owned by UMW/Toyota which is owned by Sime Darby which is owned by PNB so indirectly taxpayers money is involved. Toyota only owns 10% of Perodua.
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https://www.perodua.com.my/corporate-overview

Toyota owns almost 25%. MBM also owns 20%.

UMW doesn't even own 40% of the shares.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Dec 1 2025, 04:49 PM)
This must be giving some ideas to say phone manufacturers.

Here we have the iPhone 20 selling @RM5,999.00 without the battery but it's available for an additional RM1,099.00. Brilliant innit?
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At least for phones you can get aftermarket battery. For QEV, die die must pay for battery from P2.

QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 1 2025, 04:55 PM)
If follow qve leasing program, then iphone 20 selling 5999 unlocked but under whatever lution carrier plan, you get the phone for 3999, monthly payment in postpaid bill is rm90 telco + rm50 battery leasing, contract 24 months need pay full telco + battery fees in bill during this period or else early termination is full remaining months of telco + battery fees
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But for QVE leasing, you still do not own the battery after 9 years. The battery is forever P2's property.

QUOTE(danielmckey @ Dec 1 2025, 05:01 PM)
Contract mean, cannot do full settlement earlier must finish the full 9 years month payment, is it? Bank banyak untung intesrest lor. Because next year gomen implement the new law to loan for abolition of the flat-rate and the "Rule of 78" interest calculation methods in favor of the fairer reducing balance method which is benefit to early settlement.
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I believe you can settle the car loan earlier but must continue to pay for the battery. If you plan to sell, QV-E can only be sold via Perodua’s POV. the new owner may continue your lease or sign a new one.

A lot of the details can be found here.
https://soyacincau.com/2025/12/01/perodua-q...plan-explained/
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 1 2025, 10:34 PM)
$800m is P2 own's money lettew

youtuber sos cakap this QV-E is developed on modular platform (sedan/hatchback/SUV) to suit different powertrains altogether (ice/hybrid/reev/bev)

so the R&D cost is shared across future models / currently in development (new myvi)
unlimited km mileage battery warranty as boasted by P2
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youtuber sos cakap this QV-E is developed on modular platform (sedan/hatchback/SUV) to suit different powertrains altogether (ice/hybrid/reev/bev)

so the R&D cost is shared across future models / currently in development (new myvi)
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I think only you believe this is true.

Perodua always release complete new model very very slow, like 1 in 10 years laugh.gif

by that time, current R&D need another R&D to upgrade the look of it whistling.gif
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Even from a running business point of view, leasing battery is a difficult product to manage.

1. Battery performance is going to degrade over time and has substantial wear and tear effect. If the business wants to maintain the service quality then it will have to guarantee a certain level of performance, lets say 90%. Sure the business can claim 90% is way too high and 70% is the target, but does the customer want to pay the same amount for 70% of the performance?

Then how about the amount paid must be in proportional to the quality level? So 90% performance will pay 90% of the amount, while 70% will pay 70% of the amount? So that it encourages the business to maintain a high level of battery quality in order to earn more. But the battery cannot be repaired in conventional sense to improve the performance level. Its performance is on a one-way downward spiral, and it is costly to throw away a less than optimum battery and totally replace it with a new one. Therefore business will want the customers to pay for the same amount even when the performance level has dropped. But customers are no fools also. Who are they trying to cheat? tongue.gif


2. There will be many disputes regarding when a battery can be replaced free of charge, or the customers will be forced to bear the full cost of totally replace a battery. When the customers pay for the subscription, it is usually with the expectation that anything happens to the battery they should get a free one without additional charge. Then if the car get into accident, or get stuck in flood etc causing damage to the battery and needs to be replaced, will the company willing to do that for free? Also, incidents like this are driven by customer behaviors and how often the battery needs to be replaced might be unpredictable, and varies from customer to customer. It is difficult to predict if the subscription cost is enough to keep the subscription model afloat without any data. If the outcome is not favorable, then the company will be stuck with either raising price and causing serious backlash from the customers, or forced to run a losing money business.


So, it is better just sell the battery like everyone else. Leasing, more often than not, end up with lots of hidden costs and problems later. The customers will suffer and lose confidences in the company, then the company will suffer when customers abandoning them.

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 1 2025, 09:00 PM)
atto 2 is the most probably the better choice, since seal 6 is sedan
but still i guess atto 3 or emas 7 is the best choice here
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Yup
Can calculate as battery 9yrs is RM297 x 108 months = RM32,076

Car Price RM80,000 + Battery RM32,076 = RM112,076

Assumption Loan: RM72,000 (9 years).
Monthly payment is about RM805
Total interest approximately: RM15,000

So total cost of ownership is Car + battery + interest = RM127,076

This P2 EV business model hard for Malaysian to swallow.
In EU or countries with 3times fuel cost may be can be accepted.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 2 2025, 12:06 PM)
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Yup
Can calculate as battery 9yrs is RM297 x 108 months = RM32,076

Car Price RM80,000 + Battery RM32,076 = RM112,076

Assumption Loan: RM72,000 (9 years).
Monthly payment is about RM805
Total interest approximately: RM15,000

So total cost of ownership is Car + battery + interest = RM127,076

This P2 EV business model hard for Malaysian to swallow.
In EU or countries with 3times fuel cost may be can be accepted.
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This is minimum amount.

If the battery fail at 6th year, replacement of battery triggering restart 9 years leasing again. If not, u got a useless toy car going nowhere. You also cannot "curi curi" repair or replace battery outside too. Really Hotel California

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 2 2025, 12:19 PM)
This is minimum amount.

If the battery fail at 6th year, replacement of battery triggering restart 9 years leasing again. If not, u got a useless toy car going nowhere. You also cannot "curi curi" repair or replace battery outside too. Really Hotel California
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nah..i already saw on fb people coping hard say 6~7 later outside will be workshop to fix these car...lol doh.gif
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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Dec 2 2025, 03:41 PM)
nah..i already saw on fb people coping hard say 6~7 later outside will be workshop to fix these car...lol doh.gif
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Lol! They didn't read the TnC ar? The battery are P2 property ler. Owner just renting it. P2 have the right to disable the battery too.

Plus the body and battery cannot separate if want to sell later and renew the leasing.

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 2 2025, 03:59 PM)
Lol! They didn't read the TnC ar? The battery are P2 property ler. Owner just renting it. P2 have the right to disable the battery too

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believe me, they did. and they most likely SA or related person to push the sales whistling.gif
because people know a little car know this is sh*t hole and endless void
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believe me, they did. and they most likely SA or related person to push the sales whistling.gif
because people know a little car know this is sh*t hole and endless void
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Haha... Hope they didn't think can replace with ICE in it


Anyway, if P2 turn Myvi got EV version plus similar pricing as now Myvi without this BaaS shit.. surely can sell like hotcake

Never try reinvent a wheel especially P2 are not big enough to be market leader. Let those big taikor car manufacturers lead the way. Even Japan manufacturers dare not jump in.

Either Japan manufacturers they lack innovation to pursue EV or saw the downfall of EV shortcoming. Nobody knows for sure, only future will tell.

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 2 2025, 03:59 PM)
Lol! They didn't read the TnC ar? The battery are P2 property ler. Owner just renting it. P2 have the right to disable the battery too.

Plus the body and battery cannot separate if want to sell later and renew the leasing.

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Prohibited use the battery for ride-hailing, delivery purpose

Wa. cannot do grab using this car.

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Dec 2 2025, 04:12 PM)
Wa. cannot do grab using this car.
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Cannot even carry alcohol or pork tongue.gif

Cannot use it to go buy MKT or genting to judi whistling.gif

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Dec 2 2025, 04:12 PM)
Wa. cannot do grab using this car.
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Imagine, buying an 80k car with additional 30k for battery, yet u can't have own freedom of doing whatever u like with ur car like grab or delivery, lol. Really can't brain p2 move this time. Langsung not aligned with b40 style of living.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 2 2025, 04:29 PM)
Cannot even carry alcohol or pork  tongue.gif

Cannot use it to go buy MKT or genting to judi  whistling.gif
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I just read, can't go for gambling.
GPS Tracker once detected battery arrived Yin Ting, straight void warranty.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 2 2025, 04:32 PM)
Imagine, buying an 80k car with additional 30k for battery, yet u can't have own freedom of doing whatever u like with ur car like grab or delivery, lol. Really can't brain p2 move this time. Langsung not aligned with b40 style of living.
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if BAAS come with free charging as sweetener maybe ada chance to sell
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 2 2025, 04:07 PM)
Haha... Hope they didn't think can replace with ICE in it
Anyway, if P2 turn Myvi got EV version plus similar pricing as now Myvi without this BaaS shit.. surely can sell like hotcake

Never try reinvent a wheel especially P2 are not big enough to be market leader. Let those big taikor car manufacturers lead the way.  Even Japan manufacturers dare not jump in.

Either Japan manufacturers they lack innovation to pursue EV or saw the downfall of EV shortcoming. Nobody knows for sure, only future will tell.
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P2 even sell this 100K also will sell like hot cake, but they decide to make it battery leasing is mindblowing.

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waiting for news about ppl who bought the car but didnt pay for the monthly battery leasing
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 2 2025, 05:12 PM)
waiting for news about ppl who bought the car but didnt pay for the monthly battery leasing
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That would be comedy, those people with disabled cars tunjuk perasaan friday afternoon at Perodua Kilang.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 2 2025, 05:12 PM)
waiting for news about ppl who bought the car but didnt pay for the monthly battery leasing
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the monthly battery leasing is tied to their loan payment. not paid separately.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 2 2025, 05:24 PM)
the monthly battery leasing is tied to their loan payment. not paid separately.
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Or didnt pay the loan at all
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 2 2025, 05:30 PM)
Or didnt pay the loan at all
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then kena repo by bank lo, the end lol.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 2 2025, 05:45 PM)
then kena repo by bank lo, the end lol.
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