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TSparisiansky
post Jun 19 2025, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Jun 19 2025, 04:18 PM)
Lemme try to break it down:
Generally speaking,
⬆️ Corporate ladder = ⬆️ Income

Girl POV:
See man ⬆️ Income = ⬆️ Attraction
Replace the equation...
See man ⬆️ corporate ladder = ⬆️ attraction

Man POV:
See woman ⬆️ Income ≠ ⬆️ Attraction
You get the rest...

I think you may not see the connection, perhaps because you think women climbing corporate ladder is not necessarily associated with money, but perhaps just a sense of achievement in general. In that case, you're right it's unfair, but society often works in collective thinking / stereotypes so there tends to be a skewed perception between men vs women in this context.
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Well I wouldn't wanna be with men who don't like career minded women anyway. It really says a lot about them. I prefer men who would support my career n in return, I'd support his too. Back to the topic of cooking, I think the right scenario would be the couple doing meal preps TOGETHER during the weekends. It just shows both parties are willing to make the effort together.
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post Jun 19 2025, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Jun 19 2025, 04:18 PM)
Lemme try to break it down:
Generally speaking,
⬆️ Corporate ladder = ⬆️ Income

Girl POV:
See man ⬆️ Income = ⬆️ Attraction
Replace the equation...
See man ⬆️ corporate ladder = ⬆️ attraction

Man POV:
See woman ⬆️ Income ≠ ⬆️ Attraction
You get the rest...

I think you may not see the connection, perhaps because you think women climbing corporate ladder is not necessarily associated with money, but perhaps just a sense of achievement in general. In that case, you're right it's unfair, but society often works in collective thinking / stereotypes so there tends to be a skewed perception between men vs women in this context.
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Well I wouldn't wanna be with men who don't like career minded women anyway. It really says a lot about them. I prefer men who would support my career n in return, I'd support his too. Back to the topic of cooking, I think the right scenario would be the couple doing meal preps TOGETHER during the weekends. It just shows both parties are willing to make the effort together.
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post Jun 19 2025, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(parisiansky @ Jun 19 2025, 04:39 PM)
Well I wouldn't wanna be with men who don't like career minded women anyway. It really says a lot about them. I prefer men who would support my career n in return, I'd support his too. Back to the topic of cooking, I think the right scenario would be the couple doing meal preps TOGETHER during the weekends. It just shows both parties are willing to make the effort together.
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Well I am going to be brutal honest with you. Men who wants a family will want a homey woman. If you are too focus on career you can lose your future man as what's the point he come back and there is no one for him and you only see each other on weekends.

You better be upfront about this to the men you are seeing that you will be a career oriented woman.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jun 19 2025, 06:12 PM
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post Jun 19 2025, 08:23 PM

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If one can't find a man with provider quality

1) wrong circle of friend
2) don't talk provider topic on the first date. Do u like it if guy said wanna bang u on first date?
3) if u r so rush, guy will get scare
4) u don't have the quality to get a provider

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QUOTE(parisiansky @ Jun 19 2025, 12:05 PM)
Good to know. U better gatekeep that group of men before us, "gold diggers" find them lol
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post Jun 19 2025, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 19 2025, 06:10 PM)
Well I am going to be brutal honest with you. Men who wants a family will want a homey woman. If you are too focus on career you can lose your future man as what's the point he come back and there is no one for him and you only see each other on weekends.

You better be upfront about this to the men you are seeing that you will be a career oriented woman.
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Yeah I've always been upfront with them about this. Told them that I'm not looking for a clingy man.
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post Jun 19 2025, 11:39 PM

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Me, 101% support what ever my partner want to do.

With condition as I put her as priority, she need to do the same.

Sad story is she put me as option...........
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post Jun 20 2025, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(parisiansky @ Jun 15 2025, 06:17 PM)
I noticed that the guys that I've been chatting with don't ask me if I know how to cook anymore. Just curious if they've finally accepted the fact that most girls dunno how to cook/ don't want to cook 🤣 or guys would rather cook themselves as a lot of guys know some basic cooking skills these days. Would love to hear yr thoughts on this.
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I think that home-cooked meals by a woman is a very feminine thing... And I am not a sexist to be saying so... I would enjoy a hearty low-carb meal being made...

I can cook (and I think that both soup-making and barbecue are my favourite thing to do), but I would definitely play the role of being the handyman around the house...


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 19 2025, 03:15 PM)
You are right. It took me almost 3 years (2 years +) to find someone able to live frugality. Able to come down to my world of living.

It's not about economy. Just be honest with the guy..Me and the girl I am seeing was being super open honest and upfront on what we want in our partner from the moment we met. No playing games, no trying to mind reading. Saves time, not romantic though. Romantic only comes after clearing out all the stuff we want from each other.

Stuff I told my girl, no yearly overseas holiday, I am on FIRE path so I want my girl to live frugally. No unnecessary spending. She is totally ok with it.
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I am also in favour of Ramjade's opinion and my practice is the same with the FIRE path... Seeing that we are both active in the Stock Exchange & Finance section and trading/investing...

Honestly, after going through a tough life of working since the start of my adult years, facing politics and dealing with toxic folks before, I honestly do not want my future wife to be working at all... But hey, I am all open if she wants to...

I can never understand why people like seeing and dealing with sour folks out there... I am not the type of person who'd want to deal with politics and see everyone else when I can focus on myself, my well-being, and my own money... But it's just my preference... cool2.gif

24/06/25 Edit Reason (1): Clarity of sentencing.
10:05PM, 24/06/25 Edit Reason (2): Clarity of sentencing.

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post Jun 20 2025, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(Hastebreak @ Jun 20 2025, 12:12 AM)
I think that home-cooked meals by a woman is a very feminine thing... And I am not a sexist to be saying so... I would enjoy a hearty low-carb meal being made...

I can cook (and I think that both soup-making and barbecue are my favourite thing to do), but I would definitely play the role of being the handyman around the house...
I am also in favour of Ramjade's opinion and my practice is the same with the FIRE path... Seeing that we are both active in the Stock Exchange & Finance section and trading/investing...

Honestly, after going through a tough life of working since the start of my adult years, facing politics and dealing with toxic folks from work before, I honestly do not want my wife to be working at all... But hey, I am all open if she wants to...

I can never understand why people like seeing and dealing with sour folks out there... I am not the type of person to want to deal with politics and see everyone else when I can focus on myself, my well-being, and my own money... But it's just my preference...  cool2.gif
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If she can cook it's a bonus. If she cannot cook it's ok. But for me the man needs to be the provider.

I aim for FAT FIRE and I am bringing her along on it. Up to her if she wants to continue working. I know I don't want. Being FIRE especially FAT FIRE give you options to work or live off one income or totally stop working.

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post Jun 20 2025, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 19 2025, 09:51 PM)
All married with children already la :lol:
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post Jun 20 2025, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 20 2025, 07:29 AM)
If she can cook it's a bonus. If she cannot cook it's ok. But for me the man needs to be the provider.

I aim for FAT FIRE and I am bringing her along on it. Up to her if she wants to continue working. I know I don't want. Being FIRE especially FAT FIRE give you options to work or live off one income or totally stop working.
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U mean you are going to pay for everything and give her an allowance if u marry? N also cook for her?

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post Jun 20 2025, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jun 20 2025, 10:19 AM)
U mean you are going to pay for everything and give her an allowance if u marry? N also cook for her?
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No la. Once I reach FAT FIRE she is welcome to not work if she wants to.

We are kinda of long distance. So if I go to her place we just cook together lo.

She is earning. So what allowance. I told her will help her to invest her money under her name as she doesn't know how to invest herself.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jun 20 2025, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 20 2025, 11:00 AM)
No la. Once I reach FAT FIRE she is welcome to not work if she wants to.
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QUOTE(w19 @ Jun 20 2025, 03:19 PM)
Did you need gay partner but play safe please!?

Monthly RM10k Im on!
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 20 2025, 10:57 PM)
No stay far away please.
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Why not!?

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post Jun 23 2025, 06:39 AM

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parisianskyI forgot to add can cook or cannot cook is not in my criteria list to make the girl my girlfriend or my future wife.

There are other more important things than cooking. But of course I would prefer someone who can do better than just frying egg, doing Maggie mee.
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QUOTE(parisiansky @ Jun 15 2025, 03:17 PM)
I noticed that the guys that I've been chatting with don't ask me if I know how to cook anymore. Just curious if they've finally accepted the fact that most girls dunno how to cook/ don't want to cook 🤣 or guys would rather cook themselves as a lot of guys know some basic cooking skills these days. Would love to hear yr thoughts on this.
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I cook for myself every night. I don't mind if my partner couldn't cook. It ain't a big deal
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Well in my case i dont aspect my partner to cook but im glad she loves cooking 😐😬😐😬😐
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QUOTE(Takudan @ Jun 19 2025, 04:18 PM)
Lemme try to break it down:
Generally speaking,
⬆️ Corporate ladder = ⬆️ Income

Girl POV:
See man ⬆️ Income = ⬆️ Attraction
Replace the equation...
See man ⬆️ corporate ladder = ⬆️ attraction

Man POV:
See woman ⬆️ Income ≠ ⬆️ Attraction
You get the rest...

I think you may not see the connection, perhaps because you think women climbing corporate ladder is not necessarily associated with money, but perhaps just a sense of achievement in general. In that case, you're right it's unfair, but society often works in collective thinking / stereotypes so there tends to be a skewed perception between men vs women in this context.
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it's not about unfair , it's about whether a guy benefits from that.

When a girl gets a rich guy , their lifestyles get an upgrade, better house, better vacations, more money from husband etc.
The girl gets a status boost, security upgrade, lifestyle upgrade and in fact i was looking at an article that top 60% of richest women got their money through divorce.




When a guy gets a rich girl, the girl will say my money is my money, your money is your money, the guys lifestyle does not get an upgrade,
the girl has a much higher chance of feeling resentful, start belittle and disrespectful of the bf/husband.
So technically there's no benefit for the guy.

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 20 2025, 11:27 AM)
it's not about unfair , it's about whether a guy benefits from that.

When a girl gets a rich guy , their lifestyles get an upgrade, better house, better vacations, more money from husband etc.
The girl gets a status boost, security upgrade, lifestyle upgrade and in fact  i was looking at an article that top 60% of richest women got their money through divorce.
When a guy gets a rich girl, the girl will say my money is my money, your money is your money, the guys lifestyle does not get an upgrade,
the girl has a much higher chance of feeling resentful, start belittle and disrespectful of the bf/husband.
So technically there's no benefit for the guy.
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I'm saying unfair for her because she's not in the stereotypical group, that is to say, your generic statement of wo/men's benefits also will not apply to her.

That said, I'd be careful to apply statistics to everything. In this context, TS isn't talking about a(ny) rich guy, and as a career woman, also less so in the women stereotype.

Anyhow, I think any couple who are happy together will always have some transactions between them, because happy couples are partners contributing together to the relationship, because no one would be happy to be 100% giving and 0% taking for a lifetime. I'd go as far as to say, a successful gold digger has her ways of making the rich man happy, which also means the benefits he gets is happiness.

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